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Well I answred my question. Wd symptoms are back. sneezing, hot and cold, insomnia do to rls. It is mild I guess. Or not as bad as begining. I know the Kratom will fix this all when I recieve it. I just out of pure frustration of not being able to sleep got upto take 6 lopermide and 2mgs of ativan. From past experience I don't think it will help although have had a few hours of sleep during mild wd's that I did equate to the lope. My body aches and hard to move. I'm going to smoke and hope this puts me to sleep. upside depression not as bad

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@Georgia I am asking u is a 120mg methadone per day a BIG dose or not,or average...?

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Hi Miligram,
Here is some info I have found on Methadone. I do not know how much my brother was on, so I am not familiar with the normal daily ranges.
From my reading on this, Maintenance dosages for opioid dependence is 20 to 120 mg/day, so it seems as if you are at the upper limit that doctors provide.


The minimally or very mildly over medicated patient may pose a greater problem. During this time the patient experiences effects of a dose slightly in excess of the established tolerance threshold, there is a definite but mild sense of well being. Energy and motivation levels are increased ao that the individual may want to clean house or wax the car, for example. What is important is that the individual not attribute this feeling to the drug, as was the case during the "high" or nodding phase.

The addict may associate this state with being "normal;" hence the term "addict's abnormal normality." The state is experienced after a euphorigenic dose of heroin or methadone. It lasts much longer with methadone.

As the effect wears off, the exaggerated sense of well-being, motivation, and energy are no longer present. This state is in reality the addict or patient's "normal" state, which can be described as a full awareness of one's internal and external environment. This individual , who is just now feeling normal, is convinced that he or she is starting to " get sick."

As further tolerance develops, the abnormal normality is no longer experienced, and the patient complains that the dose is no longer holding and that an increase in methadone dose is needed. If a dose increase is granted, there is a brief return to this condition that the patient thinks is normal. The return is brief in that it depends on a dose increase in excess of the established threshold ----- which will further raise the tolerance threshold to the new dose level. When that happens, the patient is back again wanting more methadone.
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I tossed and turned all night. I got up  hoping the kratom arrieved. it has not. I will hope it arrieves soon. Not much else from me at moment.

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All that above is saying the drug makes you feel good , then you build up a tolerance and need/want more of the drug to keep feeling good.
How long this process takes, I don't know.
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I hope it gets there today!
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I know how important it is to be honest, I have been two feet in this whole time. This is first time I'm on the line and leaning towards a meeting with the dd. I made a call and everything. now I have till 4 to change my mind. The very thought of going is making me nausious yet everyminute seems so long as I wait and hope he calls saying come sooner. Anyone who knows dd time 4 means prob 9 if that's the case I will have for sure beat this urge out of frustration towards the dd. But if 4 is 4 even 4:15 I dnt know what will stop me.It is important to note the pure illogic behind this. I fought with my life to stay away from the substance just a week later to b waiting on it. Knowing what I have just been through. I watch the clock with the most uncomfortable feeling of both regret(allready) and inticipation. 3:33 these minutes seeming almost longer than the ones last night. I need help. I need to b stronger.

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Well Purrrpill ! I'm also with you! Kratom helps me to fight depression and similar and will also help you in your addiction problem! :)

 

Silvyius

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Purrrpill try to hang on if you can. Go get more K from that store if you have to.
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Hey Purrrpill, let me know how you are doing. It is okay if you don't make it this time. With what you have learned through this you can be better prepared if you want to try again later. I hope you are doing okay
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Georgia I will just have to not beat myself up anymore for being so weak and continue with this. My Kratom will be here tom I hope if not gnna get over night delivery from a place you suggested. I had already ordered it when I got those. I'm not gnna let this bump turn into a ditch.
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I wish the kratom had more effect on the craving, it really does help, just not 100%, it helps a whole lot with the WD's, DO NOT beat yourself up, hell, if it was easy there would not be millions of addicts out there! What you are trying to do is one of the hardest things you can think of, but you can do it!
I know I sound like a cheer leader, but I know how important it is to have someone pulling for you. If it wasn't for baby and Ray from this forum helping me I may not have been successful.
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You tube, search "KCRW Tamer animals" by a band called Other Lives
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No it worked great Georgia what happened is I only bought two packages of .5 capsules 15 per pack. So first day went through pack. So right away had to make one dose try to last till I could get it sent. It held me good too. I know had I had it I never would have copped.
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Really good one!
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