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oops, I forgot to add that Fish Oil has been used successfully for ADD & ADHD is studies.
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When i quit i went to my doctor and she prescribed me anti-deppressends, Lexapro, at first i was tempted to take them because my anxiety was off the roof, and she said that they are very light and i just have to take them for a few month, but then i looked on this site, about lexapro and what people say their experinces were. I found that you will also have withdrawal from them, you can gain a lot of weight and other side effects, so I decided to wait the withdrawals out, it has been almoust 5 month, and i do feel much better, i am glad i did't take them, you have to be strong and think positive and it will all go away with time.
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I am 30 years old and have smoked weed since I was around 15, half my life. In fact, I was smoking around a quarter of day of normal "mids" with another gram of hydrp grade to top off the bowls. I am here to say there are MAJOR MAJOR physical withdrawel symptoms from quitting, at least from the level I was at.

1. Marijuana affects your HEART. Around the age of 26 after smoking I noticed my heart was beating weirdly at night. Upon further examination I realized it was actually skipping a beat (pvc's). Happened again the next night and everytime I got high, so I quit for a month or so and it went away. Of course, I started back up and about a year later when I was back up to my same level of smokin, back they came. I have had an EKG which shows abnormal but nothing serious. But they got worse, almost into the fluttering affect people describe a few months before a heart attack, except its been going on now for years, after I smoke, but not always. NOW it also happens when i exercise a bunch. I finally fessed up to the doctor and he said that overuse of any substance can affect the heart, especially marijuana and alcohol, and he believed that is what was happening to me. He basically said my heart has weakened, I asked if there was a cure and he said "slowly get into excercise and eat right may help reverse this but likely the damage is done"


2. Marijuana affects your sleep.
-DAY 1 (quitting): no effects
-DAY 2-15: MASSIVE NIGHT SWEATS, if I could get to sleep at all. When I say massive, Im talkin my sheets were soaked, any clothes I had on would become as wet as say a wringed out wash rag. This was horrible for me, as it would wake me up every 5 mins in discomfort. Absolutely the worst part of quitting for me. VIVID DREAMS. Dreams that when you wake up for the first few hours you have to convince yourself it didnt happen.
-DAY 16-30: symptoms are lessening especially the sweats, but the dreams continue.
-Day 31-100: Yup, that long before the weird dreams go away. HOWEVER, my sleep now is soooo fulfilling. I think that when you smoke pot and fall asleep your body skips some sleep phases and goes right to rem. This is speculation, BUT, anyone that says that marijuana should be used to treat sleep should try smoking it for a year and see how well that works out.


3. Marijuana affects your digestive system.
Day 2-6 extremely upset stomach at almost all times, dry heaves in the morning, no appetite... I had to FORCE food down. AFter about day 12 or so my appetite was back with a vengence, however still had nausea from time to time. I firmly believe the digestive problems are caused by inhaling smoke into your stomach as you inhale into your lungs. (remember if you breathe in by mouthing "HO" instead of "HA" some goes into your stomach.) PR POSSIBLY, the draining of sinuses with resin lined in them into your stomach. I have vomited up the same black stuff Ive coughed outta my lungs. Also your body gets use to getting high and eating (or vice versa) SO when its gone your body doesn't know what to do.


4. Headaches. These, for me, started around day 8-10 and persisted for a month or so)


5. Lung Expulsion. You will cough up some nasty stuff. Black resin, nummies. BUT, considering a friend of mine who smoked from 15-45 he actually coughed up part of his lung, looked like a piece of brocolli, this alternative sounds much better.


6. Body Aches, in the back and joints for me. STill persist. This happens because when you are smoking pot yer body cant feel much so when you come out of it, everything you hadnt been feeling u now feel.


7: Visual anomalies. Best way to describe this is often I would try to read and the text would start moving around, or ID see strange lights in the corner of my eye.

And lets not forget the psycological aspect:

1. ANGER AGITATION IRRITABILITY

WOW, I am a non violent person for the most part. But on day 2 when I found out that my bank had nailed me with some fees I didnt think belonged there I went INSANE. High school style. I punched holes in the wall, threw my recliner across the room, broke a guitar and everything I could find. The rage lasted for about an hour, and when it was over my heart was going all crazy.
For about the next 2 weeks I was not myself at all in that aspect.

2. Emotional problems. Marijuana severly depresses you after long term use, it can actually make you psychotic or bipolar. no matter what a doctor tells you, under ANY circumstance should you try to replace marijuana with some type of anti-anxiety or depressant (xanax, valium, zoloft, lexipro, paxil, prozac....... anything liek that). TRUST ME, when you ride this through for the first month or so you wont need them, and if you try to start jackin with yer dopemines while comin of something that already has them screwed up, its NO GOOD. T R U S T M E. I experienced several bouts of crying at the place I was in my life or whatever most people think about when they are 30 and still a drug user.


So ya I probably scared you into not quitting, but hey the longer you smoke the worse these effects are, and

THEY ALL GO AWAY

All of them. Even my heart is back to normal even in exercise.
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so, how long has it been since you quit?
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Also for the girls, i noticed that the anxiety from the withdrawal went away, however a week or so before pms, i still feel some anxiety, then i looked up symptoms of pms and realized the reason i still felt anxiety on some days even though i am clean for more then 5 month was because i had pms. I had a baby in between all the smoking, when i quit the first time thats when i found out i was pregnant, i had no withdrawal symptoms, after the baby and a few month of breastfeeding i went back to smoking mj, and smoked for a year and only for the second time i got the withdrawals it could be because my hormones changed. So just in case if you ladys start noticing that your anxiety returns a week or so before your period it could be pms.
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My husband has been a smoker all his life. He is 38. Well, I think he started early teens. Anyway, he smoked all day and night. Every day. He hasn't smoked for almost a week. I cannot bear him. :'( he is so, so angry, irritated...I try to stay out of his way and understand but he says really mean things such as; he wants a divorce, noone appreciates him, he doesn't get enough sex...I am about to grant him his wish.

I am about to go buy him a bag myself. I won't but, this really sucks. I know it sucks for him too. I am a cig smoker and I have tried to quit, I know the anger and irritation, but I try to keep personal stuff out of it because I know it is the withdrawl talking.

Just a rant. I wonder how many people do divorce through this. ?
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Hi, I have been smoking marijuana everyday (9 times a day) for 4 years now, I got sick for a couple of weeks and from that day on I told myself I will quit marijauana.

Ive been off marijuana for 6 days... I dont feel the anxiety as much,
I do have irregular heartbeats but its manageable. The only thing thats bothering me is my stomach. My stomach really hurts after i ingest a meal, and I have to burp constantly. It hurt soo much that i even went to the emergency, but after some blood tests and X-rays the doctor said I have nothing wrong with me.

By reading these posts, I feel much more secure and relieved that I am not the only one going through these pains.
But I was wondering how long until these stomach aches will cease to exist?
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I've been a daily smoker for about 5 years now and have tried quitting a few times in the past year or two... getting to about 2 weeks max before falling back into old habits. My wife and I decided (more my decision) that 4/20 would be our last day smoking and went cold turkey the next day. It's now been about a week and today I'm feeling just plain horrible and hope writing this out may help my feelings.

I just awoke from a 3 hour nap this evening (I work graveyard shift) to find myself and my sheets just completely drenched in sweat. I had a crazy vivid nightmare that I just can't shake out of my head and I don't know if it was the dream or the detoxing that caused the excessive sweat. Last night when I was at work my wife woke up in the middle of the night and was hallucinating that there was someone over the bed staring at her and it shook her to her core.

The first few days weren't as bad as I have experienced when going cold turkey before. Although day 3 I found myself in the foulest of moods and wanted to smoke SOOO very badly. I didn't and felt much better the following day, feeling like I may have actually beaten the craving and could continue on my quest without hesitation. That was until tonight's nightmares and drenched sheets... It's definitely making me rethink my choice to quit.

How long can I expect this to go on? I feel like I should try to ween myself off of this rather than simply cut it all out but to throw away a week of detoxing seems pretty stupid. At the same time, I don't know yet how to handle these nightmares and pools of sweat. I can only hope it will all go away soon

:'(
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okayyyy im 15 &.
ive been smoking for over 6 months now.
the first time i smoked i instantly loved the feelinggg.
i started off only smoking little bits at different times
and it gradually got worse.
i began to notice that i was loosing the people that meant the most to me and that i only associated with people who smoke.
every dollar i got i saved up just so that i could eventually buy more weed.

it slowly began to take over my life.
when i first started smoking i would ALWAYS tell myself that i could stop any time that i wanted to and that i wasnt addicted.
and for all you people out there that others tell you its not addicting
IT IS .
take it from someone that knows.
you eventually begin to love the effects and its constantly on your mind.
everything that you see you bring a connection to weed.
you begin to think when your going to smoke next and with who.
and your always wondering if your going to run out of tree and whos going to have sh*t for you.

i kept with that idea for a while and even though i knew i was getting worse
i still made myself believe that i could stop at any moment
but the truth is you just make yourself believe that you really can.

its actuallt alot harder then you think to just stop an addiction.
like any addiction it takes time and you may never be yourself ever again.

people began to only know me as a "pothead" and i hated it.
it got to the point where i heard it so much i just believed it
and honestly i really was a pothead
i say was because i began to realize that weed is not going to take ouver my life anymore .
i want my old life back

i want to stop feeling like all i ever want to do
is sit on a coach eat potato chips and fall asleep to the tv .

im constantly tired now
and i dont feel like myself.

honestly i dont even know who i am anymore
weed has changed me so much

i would do anything to go back in time and get one last look at who i "was"

i didnt smoke because i had problems going on at home
i just simply did it for the effects.

well the effects only last so long .
ive been high to the point where i forgot things that happened 3 seconds before

and felt like a minute was a hour.

dont get me wrong i love weed
and still do
but like any addiction
its unhealthy
and it changes you

i realized that i really do have to stop
and that it is taking over my life

every holiday i felt like i had to celabrate it with weed.
for my sweet 16 i waked and baked

i wasted one of the best days that i ALWAYS looked forward to
smoking

looking back i believe that i really will regret it.
it was fun while it lasted
but its time for a change ; a change for the better

i want my old friends back
i want to be myself again

and honesly i dont know if that will ever happen.

i began to be the person i hate


im not saying dont smoke and im not saying do
its honestly a personal choice
just dont let it be a bad one.

if i could go back and do it again i would.

quitting is not a easy thing to do and i know its going to take alot
its going to be one of the hardest things i ever had to do
but i know it will be worth it.


this is real ; weed is real

dont let it control you
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Hello All!
I am a 41 year old married mom of 3 who has been using marijuana for about 23 years now. I started at age 18 and used it recreationally off and on (mostly on) for about 18 of those years. I went through times when I smoked heavily. I stopped cold-turkey several months before getting pregnant with each of my children (they were all planned pregnancies) and did not smoke again until well after I was done breastfeeding (all 3 are happy, healthy and intelligent). I suffered none of the symptoms that I have seen described in these posts. I did "want" to smoke sometimes, but I think that was more due to the habit of smoking in certain social situations, but I can honestly say that I did not actually crave it. Now, fast forward to about 5 years ago. I began having horrible stomach and intestinal problems that caused me to be ill and lose lots of weight. After several years of testing ,more testing, and more alarming weight loss, the doctors finally discovered that I had a rare condition in which my right kidney had detached from its moorings and was literally flopping around in abdomen wreaking havoc on my digestive system. (They didn't discover this until they finally thought of doing an x-ray lying down and then standing up.) The kidney was surgically reattached to my back muscle and I feel sooo much better. Unfortunately, my digestive system has been left quite sensitive. Any normally minor stomach (like excessive gas) upset causes me great pain and profound nausea. I have tried all of the prescribed medications to help with the cramping and nausea. They all either make me sick or knock me completely out. Phenegren worked the best but taking it made me feel like I took heavy narcotics and made me sleep all day. I started smoking marijuana again to see if it would help and it has literally been my salvation. If I feel the stomach cramps beginning or nausea setting in, I smoke a full bowl and the pain subsides almost immedietly. I don't feel high (okay, maybe a little, but only for a short time) and I can get on with my normal daily activities relatively pain free and with a much, much clearer head and way fewer side effects than all of the precribed drugs I was given. This works for me because when I have pain, it usually is way worse in the morning and I don't go to work until 2:00pm and I NEVER smoke at work. Prior to trying to use marijuana medicinally, I had to take a leave of absense from work because I was sick all of the time. I am now back at work and feel good again. When I first smoked marijuana all those years ago I would have never guessed that one day it would actually become a lifesaver for me. When I don't have cramping, I don't smoke and when I don't smoke, I still don't have any of the symptoms that I've seen described. I am a health care professional and have done extensive research on marijuana and I believe that there is only mild if any physical addiction to marijuana but it is psychologically addicting. I guess I'm lucky that when I don't need it to quell pain, I don't crave it and I don't feel side effects. I'm not trying to advocate heavy recreational use of marijuana as I did when I was young, but I felt I needed to share the fact that marijuana can be a medicine that is highly effective in treating gastro-intestinal problems and has helped in keeping sick people comfortable and alive longer than they would have been without it. It's too bad that sick people who can actually benefit from marijuana often have to become criminals to get the medicine they need.
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I'm 21 and I've Smoked Cannabis for a while now. I never saw a negative effect other then Laziness here and there, and It isn't good for you to smoke it. However, It has been the only thing that I've done that has helped with my insomnia without any negative side affects in the morning.

I have also been interesting in the cancer fight properties. In Mutipal studies that i looked up. Some from the 70's up to today. They tested THC on mice and rats with different types of cancer, and got amazing results. One study that i can remember. out of one study they gave mice brain cancer, and injected them with THC daily. 1/3 of the mice were completely cured of the cancer with in a mater of weeks. 1/3 lived 35% longer then the Mice with no treatment. 1/3 showed no signs of improvement. This tells me that it is extremely good for you to ingest it daily.

I have also heard of it curing skin cancer by rubbing a drop of oil on the spot a few times a day. Check out a documentary by I believe his name is Rick Simpson.
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Doubt many will read this far but I figure I'll throw in my two cents anyways. I've read all the posts and have received a lot of good information. The one thing I noticed is that everyone's withdrawals are different, some lucky bastards don't get any apparently. Quick background, 10 years smoking daily 18-28, was smoking quarter oz a week of good stuff, self desire to quit no outside forces (not getting anything positive out of it anymore). I had smoked cigarettes for 5 years 18-23 and also quit those cold turkey. I've decided to post my symptoms of the past 4 days, this is my 5th day (morning) without. You may or may not experience this but this is what I've gone through.

Day 0 - Final day of smoking
Had decided to quit a week ago and have been mentally preparing myself for it, enjoyed my smoking friends company and told them I can't hang around them for a while, they understood (if they don't get new friends). Cold turkey, no herbal supplements, no beer, no sleeping aids.

Day 1
Woke up at a normal time, throughout the day I became moody, had a short fuse, very lethargic, slightly depressed, appetite decreased a little, difficult to fall asleep.

Day 2
Woke up early, very hot short time later very cold, temperature stabilized after nap, moody, had diarrhea, stomach had dull pain, no appetite, lethargic, difficult to fall asleep, temperature fluctuated at night before going to bed, trying to go to bed at a decent time.
Started drinking more water.

Day 3
Woke up early, very hot short time later very cold, stable temp after a short while, moody, diarrhea is worse, stomach still has dull pain, no appetite, body feels a little tired but mentally I feel a little more active/aware, temperature fluctuated at night before going to bed, still trying to go to bed earlier.
Became more physically active doing stuff to take my mind off of it, drinking lots of water.

Day 4
Woke up early, moody, diarrhea persists, dull pain in stomach, slight appetite midday, had trouble sleeping.
Drinking lots of water, went for a walk at night after not feeling tired. Exercise felt great! (and this coming from someone who despises sweat)

Day 5 (midday)
Woke up early, residue of dreams in my head (been a while since I had that), less moody, diarrhea is terrible, dull pain in stomach, slight appetite.
Went on long walk in the morning, shower afterwards was like being reborn, drinking vitamin/fruit juices, purchased bran cereal to hopefully combat diarrhea.

So it's not much but it's my experiences I hope it may help someone else going through the same thing. Hopefully I'll remember to update this to my full week and maybe the one month mark. I can say that it is getting easier with time. Based on some research I read and some of the posts it seems like the worst of it is over in the first week to ten days and is mostly out of the system after a month. So be strong and avoid people that may pull you back in. I already feel much better and have a much better outlook on life.
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Two weeks on now

The day to day stuff varied so much, some days I felt great others were more miserable. Strong desire to smoke after the first week, trying to convince myself that I was over my cravings. Diarrhea comes and goes, cereal and exercise seemed to help a lot. Hot / cold flashes are long gone, I still tend to get angry over small unimportant stuff. The desire is waining and I can be around people while they smoke and although it smells nice I can resist.
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Hi,

I have read through several threads and it never occurred to me to relate what I have been feeling to marijuana withdrawal.

I had been smoking weed steadily for about 8 months, everyday. I just recently made the decision to give it up for several reasons. A few days ago I began having weird feelings that I thought were associated with panic attacks until I came across this thread. I now know that it is a result of marijuana withdrawal and now that I know this, it is a relief because I thought I was losing my mind.

I've been having hot and cold flashes, palpitations, heart racing, mind racing, anxiety, insomnia, slight loss of appetite. Thank you to those that shared their experiences, because it helps to know that this will eventually subside. I had my first "weird" dream last night and now I know why...this truly makes me NOT want to pick up weed anymore!

Hopefully it won't take to long before these symptoms subside, but if anyone can give me any insight into how long it will take for it to go away, it would be helpful.

Thank you.
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I have found these posts fascinating. I've been reading these threads off and on all day today. I am very similar to the last guy. i've been smoking daily for a decade and i'm terribly afraid of quitting. i know how badly i jones for it when i run out. it makes me want to cry like a baby.

a few weeks ago, some really good buds came thru town that i think were powerful sativa. i was also going through major family drama and was expanding my business. i started having SEVERAL attacks a day. i went to an old workplace of mine and this woman's voice and her bossing around the new me in the office was stressing me out. i got to the point where i was pacing around their office and couldn't breathe. just thinking of it makes me feel like i'm having one.

i love strong coffee. that morning i drank a cup in a coffee shop i had never been to and i could barely drink it. it was SO STRONG.

today was very similar. i made some dark espresso roast with 3x the grounds you need for a normal brew. and panic attacks all day.

i find myself worrying about my 10 month old dog dying 12 years from now. and certain subjects just give me this shot of adreniline that becomes exhausting. if i watch something argumentative on tv or on the radio it makes me nuts. i feel like an old lady and i'm a pretty easy going fun 30 year old guy.

i will say that turning 30 changed me just because its a round number. you start going, whoa! double that is 60, its going fast! i started worrying about the future more and hoping that i can keep up my current lifestyle and grow my business. i also became less interested in "hanging out" because my time became more valuable to me and a lot of my friends are not really living up to their potential. i noticed similar language in other posts. people talking about getting attacks and worrying that their friends will think they are a buzzkill.

i never got that bad. other people help me not get over-stressed. if there was a single good thing on tv i could zone out, but i just gave it up almost 100%.

i swear that i think certain elements of this thread have worked wonders for me.

i feel like i'm already able to control my anxiety by realizing that the fear is driving this endless circle. someone mentioned this. also, eating! the blood sugar thing is so powerful.

some days i'll drink coffee all day and never eat anything. i'll pick a fight with my wife for NO REASON. and i'll poke and poke until she gets mad enough to argue back. its despicable behavior. i'll smoke my first bowl of the day and then i'm wondering what the hell my problem was. i can suddenly admit i'm wrong.

9 months ago i quit smoking cigarettes after 14 years of heavy smoking. i went from chain smoking all day long to cutting up my pack and never smoking again. someone bought me a book called The Easy Way To Stop Smoking and it talked me out of smoking in 4 hours. i didn't even want to quit! i just was curious about his methods.

i think this book would be great for any addict. even behaviors you are addicted to. the author, Allen Carr, saved my life. cigarettes are the worst poison man ever self-inflicted and a global holocaust of epic proportions.

marijuana isn't so evil in my humble opinion. i feel like it really served a purpose for me. maybe i'm fooling myself, but i think it helped me become a well adjusted person. i'm not the type that it makes lazy. i am an insomniac with 40 projects always going on. i used to be hyperactive to the point where i couldn't socialize without acting like a total douche. i never got into pot in high school or the first few years of college.

what is troubling for me is that i get depressed when i don't have it. so that tells me it is very powerful. i also never remember my dreams and spend way too much money on weed. i wish i could keep it around for the occasional concert or movie, but i really need to stop smoking so much for my lungs sake more than any other reason.

i also think it would be interesting to not be cloudy through life. it seems kind of silly to go through life that way when you think about it. if i had kids, would i want to have little memory of their childhood?

overall, i think drug ABUSE is the problem. doing something daily is no good.

but i think they can be helpful. i have evolved from eating mushrooms. if you have done psychedelic drugs, you know how powerful your mind can be. if you are artistic or a scientist working on a wild theory, smoking weed can churn those juices. no doubt. but if you do it every day, its not going to be so useful.

when you are 20 and out at the bar, you can meet some fun people and everyone is uninhibited and lubed up on drink. but that last hold out you see at the bar at 65 sitting there alone is pathetic. no longer laughing and having a good time, they have totally depressed themselves.

go live life!! there are so many cool things out there to be doing. get out of your house and away from your bong! stay away all day and come home at night and toke a bowl. at least then you are a more interesting person. if your life is all about a drug, that is pretty lame. even willie nelson writes a song or rambles about biodisel once in a while! get a hobby!

i am truly blessed to be on this planet with you guys. i have really enjoyed everyone's stories.

i don't know if i will quit. if i do i will post here.

i will say that since i read this thread i believe that although smoking anything can raise your heart rate for a few minutes, i was associating my fears with the act of smoking.

i already feel way better.

keep in touch! stoners (and former stoners) are such interesting, introspective people with good hearts. i already knew that, and you guys remind me. i like...totally forgot....and then....like....remembered again.
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