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My son has been off for going on (just started) his 6th day cold turkey and he is very paranoid and believes that everyone is out to get him. It is very sad and hard but right now he still seems determined even though he is paranoid like crazy.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

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I have detoxed cold turkey 8x...it can take a year before your boyfriend feels like himself again; maybe 2. I have been on many clinics which only treat you like you are a monster, and you must work for your take-outs or you will go everyday except maybe on a major holiday like today (Thanksgiving) After detoxing 8x...I now get 10mg tabs from my private Dr. who never makes me feel guilty); and now I thank God for methadone,especially after I did some research and found that the 2 scientists that invented methadone likened it to insulin to a diabetic. There is no euphoria, just no feeling like you want to die; therefore, if you can get it from your private Dr, do so, if not.....then a clinic might be the only answer. Also, when I was in Australia, a guy that lived next door died from not taking his insulin.....so, if you need it....take it.

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im just wonderin if he ever got clean? myself i been on methadone for 2 years now and have gotten weened off it and never fealt better, i know where your comin from tryna help your bf but nobody else can do it but yourself, so many ppl tryed to help me it never worked i hada help myself which i did, i seen this post and im really curious if he got the help he needed and if he is doing good now ?? e

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I am on 120 mg of methadone. I went from 120 to 80 and now to 40 and i dont really feel a difference. I did this in three days. I hope i can continue to go down i heard that the first drop does not matter so much it is when u get dow low you really feel it. I am at 930 am i took 40mg at 7 and so far i feel ok I will keep you posted

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I mean absolutely no offence when I say this college student, but a placebo isn't gonna do a F'n thing for the "WRENCHING" all nite he's going thru. On top of that in some states (@ least MI.) giving a placebo to the patient w/o his knowledge can be illegal.
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He should be getting better by now, meaning @ least feeling better & better. Some people I kno said between 4 & 6 months to be completely healthy & free of all it's chains. The WRENCHING in his sleep should be subsided by now w/ his only issue being insomnia. For that diphenhydramine like unisom or ZzzQuil should work wonders for him. Unfortunately by the sounds of it & according to odds, he's used some sort of opioid w/o your knowledge, thus not only going back to start but "passing go straight to jail", his own prison he's built for himself. Hopefully that's not the case. I'm on day 7 myself & they're SO wrong that I don't give a damn I'm NOT gonna start oe'r if it takes my life doing it. I didn't c the date so I dunno if this is old, but if he went back, the only way is to slowly taper off. There's a medical procedure that detoxes the patient in their sleep but there's only a few states, MI. one of them that allow it, it's very expensive, & not approved yet by medical boards so who knows if it's even worth it. Also if you haven't given him hard love then it's time. Like tell him to be a man & quit whining cuz there's oe'r 100k people out there how wish they were in his shoes. Also if a draftee can like freezing his as off sleeping in complete mud for months while watching the horrors of war, than he can take another 1-3 months...
God Bless & good luck.
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No offense my friend but you're a fool. Do you know what the definition is? It's your DONT know what to say & when to shut the F up. Now please don't take offence cuz I HONESTLY meant none, in fact you were prolly only speaking from what you know is truth. Although, then tht makes you ignorant because it's not true. Maybe it is for you but NOT everyone else & people who are looking for help or hope read that BS. Then what do you think they're thinking? A "YEAR"!?!? They'll think, which may be all it takes for them to say forget that & not wanna try it. You could be single handedly responsible for veering some1 on a different path that can rip they're families apart & take their life soul, & ultimately their life. Once again I know I prolly sound harsh because I call it like I see it. I have 2 friends who quit it. They BOTH sai the same thing, 6-30 days of bogue & wrenching, while also insomnia for 3-6 months. Maybe for you, it's harder. Maybe you've abused for too long & too heavy. Maybe your chemically imbalanced & you think you're lagging from withdraws but actually you need some other medication. Have you ever tried that? Maybe you have but in case you didn't know it takes @ minimal 30 days from them to take effect, therefor if you haven't tried at least 6 @ 30days a piece you REALLY haven't. Another thing is that some of us are stronger than others. I F'd up & had 3 surgeries in a row, got hooked on V's, Ox's, then Mdn, now I'm sitting here 7 days clean thinking WTF is this guy talking about, "a year or 2" what a rotten thing to say... Then again, maybe your speaking from you're heart. I KNOW it's NOT your soul, cuz you sold that, what kind of person goes through that 8X's, I mean are you serious? That's INSANITY Brother. So I'm sorry but... you are insane. I'm in your canoe, but when we get down river to the combat zone & you can't take the crossfire (like the 8X's B4) your a$$ sure wouldn't be running back upstream for the 9th time for I'd fix that w/ some friendly fire. Be a man, be a soldier, DONT be crying in your foxhole cuz all that's gonna do is make the Devil find us! Your stronger than that, EVERYONE who still has a soul is, it's just up to you whether you've had enough or not. Do you love yourself or that drug? You KNEW the consequence when you kept doing it. Therefore you've built your prison, so serve your time & get the s#!t done already.
God Bless & good luck w/ your 9th my friend.
PS stay outta the service. LOL
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i live in sweden and this is my 2 day from metadone,im switching to subutex.i had 150mg of metadone for 6years..im quiting with help from subutex and hope it will help..i estimate to use subutex for 30days or so..anyone that has done the same as me..damn my tummy hurts
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I would love to ask a few questions to "Sinful_Sugar", regards your answer to the question to above. I have similiarity case with my husband, and actually may be more complicated due to our circumstances. Please send me your email address so I can be able ask more adviced from you. I really appreciate it!

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I agree, if he can get alprazolam (Xanax) or clonazepam (Klonopin) then that would be a great help. I was prescribed zopiclone (the S- isomer is sold as Lunesta in the USA) and found that helpful. After acute withdrawal, the hardest things to deal with are (1) the insomnia, for which benzodiazepines or "Z- drugs" will help and (2) the anhedonia (lack of ability to feel pleasure) which can be helped by antidepressants.

After quitting methadone, almost cold turkey (from 110 mg/day to 0 in 8 days), it took me about 5 - 6 months before I really felt "normal" again.
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First of all, since methadone has such a long half-life, you may not even be noticing methadone withdrawal. Secondly, even if you're on over 100 mg/day, a 25 mg dose will often be enough to prevent you from getting physically ill, even though you won't feel satiated.

When I came of methadone I'd been on 110 mg/day for about 2 years. When I stopped, the days were like this: 110 mg, 70 mg, 40 mg, 30 mg, 30 mg, 25 mg, 24 mg, 24 mg, 0 mg. I didn't even start to feel ill until about 60 hours after my last (24 mg) dose. That gives you an idea of how long its half-life is.

The worst day was the 4th day (i.e. 4 days after my last dose). 70 mg diazepam on that day barely was enough to get me to lie still. Withdrawal (i.e. the "acute" or physical stage) lasted until the 10th day. It did, however, take about 30 days before I was able to sleep more than 4 hours a night without prescription sleeping pills (zopiclone). I was about 50 days before I was able to have fun again and about 150 days or so before I really started to feel like myself.

Two of the doctors at the methadone clinic told me that I was basically crazy and had a 99% chance of failing because I was dropping my dose too quickly. The doctor I usually saw originally encouraged my to drop from 110 mg/day to nothing immediately (i.e. "cold turkey"). I'm glad I decided to do it in less time, rather than waiting 6 months to 1.5 years like the two other doctors suggested. Those 7 days of withdrawal sure were not fun, but in retrospect, it wasn't that horrible.

All those who claim that methadone is the "hardest" to withdraw from don't have a clue as to what they're talking about (and, indeed, many of those I've heard say that have, in fact, never even tried to withdraw from methadone).

It's basically a pharmacological fact: since methadone has a much longer half-life than many other opioids like codeine, oxycodone and diacetylmorphine (heroin), withdrawal lasts about twice as long with methadone but withdrawal is also about half as intense.

I think part of the reason people say methadone is harder to get off is because they take a higher dose of methadone than they need. For example, I was addicted to codeine for 4.5 years before getting on methadone. I was taking 1600 mg/day of codeine phosphate (roughly equivalent to 160 mg of morphine or 80 mg of heroin - and if you're a heroin addict and you think 80 mg/day of heroin isn't much, I'll remind you that it is REALLY unlikely that your heroin is anywhere near 100% pure - heck, it's probably not even 50% pure). I was satisfied at about 50 - 60 mg of methadone but went up to 110 mg/day because (1) I enjoyed it (those who say it causes "no euphoria" are mistaken for a few reasons) and (2) the cose was per dose not per mg.

The reason I say that those who claim methadone doesn't cause euphoria are mistaken is very simple: they were probably addicted to opioids before taking methadone. If you take opioids orally, then you'll find that other opioids taken orally simply won't produce euphoria once you've built a tolerance. That is to say that the euphoria is one of the first things you build a tolerance to and one of the last things to go. If you're already tolerant to opioids and then start taking methadone then of course you're not going to experience euphoria from methadone. However, if you give methadone to an opioid-naive person or if you seriously overdose on your own methadone, then you will experience euphoria. It won't be anywhere as intense as IV injecting opioids, because the rate at which it climbs in your blood is WAY slower than IV injection, but it still produces pleasure.
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My doc told me it will take up to six months for the physical symtons to subside and maybe a year for the rest.
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Hey Im going cold turkey 70 mg Methodone.
I could use your help. Im not able to get meds..
Day 1.
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Hey I just wanted to ask u if u exceeded in detox from the methadone? ?? I was takin 130 mgs for 9 mos straight to cold turkey and this sucks I'm at day 12 and still miserable I have slept maybe a hr a day since I started, how long will this continue? ??
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yes sir xanax will most dif do the trick thats what worked for me tell him to look up.. PAWS.. paws is what happens when your body is about to kick it for good. he will be just fine but alot of pepole have never even hurd of PAWS.. he needs to read up on it if he wants to stop useing for good and not fell like sh*t every few months. like i said even if hes not useing. he will still fell like c**p evry few months do to paws. so look it up he should find it very helpfull. and it will give him hope right when he is about to give up. cus he thinks hes still withdrawing
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