Wow, there are more of us! I thought I was alone in this until a friend's mother and I both were offered margaritas and refused. But why they asked- "Lockjaw!" we said in unsion. I practically hugged her! For years, friends thought it was my wussy way of not drinking with them... now I feel like I can actually "prove" that I'm being honest!
By the way- the only health problems I've ever had were impacted wisdom teeth and scoliosis... family history of TMJ though... a peditrician friend suggested that I might be allergic to the Agave in tequila. She's from Mexico and says it's more commonly recognized there. Another doctor friend suggested that I might actually be allergic to the combinations of yeasts from the fermentation of alcohol and certain carbohydrates.
While I'll still be passing on the drinks, it's good to know I'll have company!
By the way- the only health problems I've ever had were impacted wisdom teeth and scoliosis... family history of TMJ though... a peditrician friend suggested that I might be allergic to the Agave in tequila. She's from Mexico and says it's more commonly recognized there. Another doctor friend suggested that I might actually be allergic to the combinations of yeasts from the fermentation of alcohol and certain carbohydrates.
While I'll still be passing on the drinks, it's good to know I'll have company!
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This happened to me for the first time on Saturday! I was out for Thai food, nothing I had never eaten before (pad thai). I almost never drink fruity drinks with dinner, but it was a bachelorette party and I was in the mood for something different, so I got a lychee martini (lychee puree, citron vodka and cane sugar syrup). I sipped on it through dinner and drained it when I finished eating and almost immediately got this same pain (the blowing up too many balloons thing is the best way I've heard it described - but it was like 10x more painful than that). Couldn't open my jaw to drink any water and got pale and sweaty and felt like I would pass out. The pain passed in about half an hour. I drank at the club we went to without issue.
I drink regularly, mostly beer and wine but occasionally I drink vodka with cranberry and soda. Almost never something this sweet. I'll report back if it happens again.
I drink regularly, mostly beer and wine but occasionally I drink vodka with cranberry and soda. Almost never something this sweet. I'll report back if it happens again.
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It occurred again tonight after some red wine and dinner.. I googled - ache mouth red wine - and stumbled on this. I've had this problem for a while, and its funny when I see everyone's relief that they are not alone.
I get that same relief too. :-)
During my uni days, I used to smoke weed regularly - from a bong - and vaguely recall experiencing this pain.
My memory of it is a little hazy - as expected.
I generally am the type that doesn't drink a lot of water everyday, so perhaps dehydration is a factor from what I've read so far.
Rinsing the mouth with water definitely helps with the aches.
I get that same relief too. :-)
During my uni days, I used to smoke weed regularly - from a bong - and vaguely recall experiencing this pain.
My memory of it is a little hazy - as expected.
I generally am the type that doesn't drink a lot of water everyday, so perhaps dehydration is a factor from what I've read so far.
Rinsing the mouth with water definitely helps with the aches.
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Just wanted to add that I think this could be genetic.. I've noticed for years that whenever I experience the pain in my jaw, it is ALMOST always related to having tequila.. what's weird is it can happen the moment the 1st drops of tequila enter my mouth, seems almost psychological, but it can happen even without me knowing I'm drinking tequila (eg. someone hands me a drink, I take a sip, my jaw spikes with pain.. I say "hay is there tequila in this?".. answer is always yes).
I say it's genetic because the other day I was out at a Mexican restaurant with my mother and sister, we all got margarita's, and as we all took our first sip, all of our jaws burst with pain.. when one of us said something, we were all blown away with the fact that we all suffered from it, and no one else we know does.. we individually thought we were just "weird" until we realized all three of us had the same problem.. So we dubbed it a family disorder.
My mom is diagnosed with TMJ, my sister and I have no other TMJ type symptoms that I'm aware of.
Hope that helps whoever is researching this.
I say it's genetic because the other day I was out at a Mexican restaurant with my mother and sister, we all got margarita's, and as we all took our first sip, all of our jaws burst with pain.. when one of us said something, we were all blown away with the fact that we all suffered from it, and no one else we know does.. we individually thought we were just "weird" until we realized all three of us had the same problem.. So we dubbed it a family disorder.
My mom is diagnosed with TMJ, my sister and I have no other TMJ type symptoms that I'm aware of.
Hope that helps whoever is researching this.
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Another one saying yeay thought it was only me (although my mother gets it to)
With me its usually after more than two glasses of wine, mainly red. It doesn't happen very often, but then I dont drink more than two glasses of red very often.
With me its usually after more than two glasses of wine, mainly red. It doesn't happen very often, but then I dont drink more than two glasses of red very often.
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This happened to me again today. As everyone else says, It is a great feeling to know this happens to more people out there.
I would first like to say that I am NOT a doctor in any way. This post is only a theory which is semi-supported with plenty of accounts. Anyways, I was reading in another post somewhere, and this gentleman (I believe he said he was a doctor) said his theory was that the Parotid gland was of course to blame for this. This is where the pain is coming from in all of our cases. The gland produces most of our saliva used for mastication. His theory mainly said that the openings for this gland are usually used as secretion glands only. Though, in all of our cases, for some reason our glands are more dialated than others and allow these liquids that we drink to seep into our gland the wrong way. He also said the reason these openings are more dialated than usual (which is why SOMETIMES this hurts us) is because our mouths are dry, NOT dehydrated, but dry. When our mouths are dry, these openings in the back of our mouths dialate to allow more saliva to secreat into our mouths to keep it hydrated.
What I got out of this is that when this pain occurs, we are drinking something with citric acid (such as lemonaid, or iced tea with lemon in it) or something with a high percentage of alcohol (Like dry martini's or margaritas. Long Island Iced Tea's are a double whammy or anything with bitters or sours in it), or even EATING something like anything with Vinegar or msg in it. When we drink and eat these things, we do it before we actually "lubricate" our mouths. When this happens, that stuff that we are drinking or eating flows right into the dialated openings to our parotid gland. Then it burns...
Think of it like this. Lets say you cut your hand. What would hurt more? lemon juice? Alcohol? Vinegar? These openings to the gland act as open wounds and those ingredients (lemon juice, alcohol, etc...) just make it completely burn. Why it burns worse than a cut on the hand is because the entire parotid gland seems like a steril sponge. It seems to absorb these ingredients and spreads it around the entire gland which is essentially a huge open wound. Also, it may hurt more because we are just simply not used to it.
All of those people saying that they remember when they were a kid trying to blow up a balloon and it was too hard, then they had a stinging pain in their jaw. I believe that is actually air entering the gland and stretching tissue that has never and should never have been stretched.
As I said, I am not a doctor and this should not be taken as a medical treatment, though, this is a list of what I believe are fallacies.
-I don't think this occasional pain is because of stones or blockage. I believe that would hurt as much and as frequently as a kidney stone.
-I also do not think this has anything to do with an intolerance to alcohol or even an allergic reaction.
-Dehydration isn't exactly a cause. There have been posts of people who regularly drink more than the required amount of liquids and still have this. I do, however, think this is because of a dry mouth.
-I also do not believe this is genetic at all. My mother is a light drinker, a margarita here or there, my father is a wine officionado. He drinks a ton of it. My sister is a party girl, she will drink anything and everything. They all think I am strange for feeling this. Also, none of my 21 cousins or 12 aunts and uncles, or grandparents know the first thing of what im talking about.
-Wisdom teeth MAY have some impact on this, but I believe it only depends on your entire tooth setup. There have been accounts of people with, without, impacted, half, etc. of their wisdom teeth, BUT Some people say it has happened only AFTER they had their teeth pulled. For the ones with their wisdom teeth still in, you may just have more dialated openings to this gland, to the ones who had thiers pulled and now feel this, the loss of the teeth could have lead to stretching of this openings and are now open more.
-I believe grinding of the teeth has nothing to do with this.
-This is definitely NOT Hodgekins, although you should still be checked for it.
-TMJ may have a play in it to make the opening stretched and larger, just as the removed wisdom teeth.
-Heritage has little/nothing to do with this.
Please let me say this again. This is only my theory. I have been reading a lot about this. I hope this helps everyone out there with this same problem, and I am happy to say "welcome to the club" to the new readers. Please copy and paste this post wherever you would like and spread the word to the people who feel the same!
and p.s. Why would a doctor RECOMMEND eating raw lemmons???
I would first like to say that I am NOT a doctor in any way. This post is only a theory which is semi-supported with plenty of accounts. Anyways, I was reading in another post somewhere, and this gentleman (I believe he said he was a doctor) said his theory was that the Parotid gland was of course to blame for this. This is where the pain is coming from in all of our cases. The gland produces most of our saliva used for mastication. His theory mainly said that the openings for this gland are usually used as secretion glands only. Though, in all of our cases, for some reason our glands are more dialated than others and allow these liquids that we drink to seep into our gland the wrong way. He also said the reason these openings are more dialated than usual (which is why SOMETIMES this hurts us) is because our mouths are dry, NOT dehydrated, but dry. When our mouths are dry, these openings in the back of our mouths dialate to allow more saliva to secreat into our mouths to keep it hydrated.
What I got out of this is that when this pain occurs, we are drinking something with citric acid (such as lemonaid, or iced tea with lemon in it) or something with a high percentage of alcohol (Like dry martini's or margaritas. Long Island Iced Tea's are a double whammy or anything with bitters or sours in it), or even EATING something like anything with Vinegar or msg in it. When we drink and eat these things, we do it before we actually "lubricate" our mouths. When this happens, that stuff that we are drinking or eating flows right into the dialated openings to our parotid gland. Then it burns...
Think of it like this. Lets say you cut your hand. What would hurt more? lemon juice? Alcohol? Vinegar? These openings to the gland act as open wounds and those ingredients (lemon juice, alcohol, etc...) just make it completely burn. Why it burns worse than a cut on the hand is because the entire parotid gland seems like a steril sponge. It seems to absorb these ingredients and spreads it around the entire gland which is essentially a huge open wound. Also, it may hurt more because we are just simply not used to it.
All of those people saying that they remember when they were a kid trying to blow up a balloon and it was too hard, then they had a stinging pain in their jaw. I believe that is actually air entering the gland and stretching tissue that has never and should never have been stretched.
As I said, I am not a doctor and this should not be taken as a medical treatment, though, this is a list of what I believe are fallacies.
-I don't think this occasional pain is because of stones or blockage. I believe that would hurt as much and as frequently as a kidney stone.
-I also do not think this has anything to do with an intolerance to alcohol or even an allergic reaction.
-Dehydration isn't exactly a cause. There have been posts of people who regularly drink more than the required amount of liquids and still have this. I do, however, think this is because of a dry mouth.
-I also do not believe this is genetic at all. My mother is a light drinker, a margarita here or there, my father is a wine officionado. He drinks a ton of it. My sister is a party girl, she will drink anything and everything. They all think I am strange for feeling this. Also, none of my 21 cousins or 12 aunts and uncles, or grandparents know the first thing of what im talking about.
-Wisdom teeth MAY have some impact on this, but I believe it only depends on your entire tooth setup. There have been accounts of people with, without, impacted, half, etc. of their wisdom teeth, BUT Some people say it has happened only AFTER they had their teeth pulled. For the ones with their wisdom teeth still in, you may just have more dialated openings to this gland, to the ones who had thiers pulled and now feel this, the loss of the teeth could have lead to stretching of this openings and are now open more.
-I believe grinding of the teeth has nothing to do with this.
-This is definitely NOT Hodgekins, although you should still be checked for it.
-TMJ may have a play in it to make the opening stretched and larger, just as the removed wisdom teeth.
-Heritage has little/nothing to do with this.
Please let me say this again. This is only my theory. I have been reading a lot about this. I hope this helps everyone out there with this same problem, and I am happy to say "welcome to the club" to the new readers. Please copy and paste this post wherever you would like and spread the word to the people who feel the same!
and p.s. Why would a doctor RECOMMEND eating raw lemmons???
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Shocked, pleased, and sad to find so many with the same problem as I have with Alcohol and jaw pain!
I could have just read through all the posts and been satisfied knowing that I'm not the only one and that some people have educated themselves and shared with the rest of us some very good theories...but I had to express gratitude to those of you who have shared both the pain...and the educated theories. I, too, wish that doctors knew more about this! I've asked several doctors over the years and none of them have any idea at all what I was talking about. I have thought about looking it up on the internet before but I don't drink often enough to remember to look when I get the chance. Just thought about it this morning and glad I took the time to read through all of this!
I could have just read through all the posts and been satisfied knowing that I'm not the only one and that some people have educated themselves and shared with the rest of us some very good theories...but I had to express gratitude to those of you who have shared both the pain...and the educated theories. I, too, wish that doctors knew more about this! I've asked several doctors over the years and none of them have any idea at all what I was talking about. I have thought about looking it up on the internet before but I don't drink often enough to remember to look when I get the chance. Just thought about it this morning and glad I took the time to read through all of this!
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I have only recently started experiencing pain when I drank wine. My dentist says I have TMJ, but I think it's odd that the pain only comes with the alcohol. I just googled and came across this web post, so it is a little bit comforting to know I'm not alone.
I would be curious to know how old most people are when this starts. I hope that we're all of drinking age, but I'm really interested in age at onset, since I'm 46 and only now starting to have this problem.
I would be curious to know how old most people are when this starts. I hope that we're all of drinking age, but I'm really interested in age at onset, since I'm 46 and only now starting to have this problem.
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This happens to me also, but only with certain types of alcoholic beverages. I drink beer, tequila and gin. With bottled beer and tequila (margaritas) I feel the pain not only in my jaw but in my eardrums. The pain is so intense that sometimes I can only speak with my jaw clenched, not great in social situations. However, the pain only lasts about 15-30 minutes then disappears. I feel no pain when I drink draft beer or gin drinks. From reading previous posts (no offense) I don't think this has to do with dehydration or salivary glands. I am a runner and exercise often. When I experience mild dehydration I don't feel it in my jaw/ear area. This has got to be due to yeasts or sulfites that are part of the brewing or preserving process. I drink gin often and have never had a problem. Same with draft beer. Why just bottles and tequila? It seems that most people who have posted have the same issues with bottled drinks, wine included. Let me also state that I have no known allergies and experience this only when I drink the above beverages. I agree with the previous posters that water helps, but I don't think it has to do with dehydration, more with removing the irritant from the mouth and throat area. I think the reason we don't see any definitive research or answers to this is because generally it is not serious and is more of an irritation than a health issue. If there is a medical professional out there please help us with something definitive.
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Just few weeks ago I started to feel that. And it's only after one beer that i usually drink slowly.
I just recently moved to my own place and started to drink beer just casually, at home, with my food.
When I party, I drink beer all the time and way faster then at home. And i never felt the pain.
I thought about these few things that are different from when I drink at home or at a party:
- Could sitting down be a factor? (you move more when your out)
- How fast you drink? (beer goes way faster at the party)
- Could talking/not talking to other people be a factor? (there is more movement in the jaw)
I just recently moved to my own place and started to drink beer just casually, at home, with my food.
When I party, I drink beer all the time and way faster then at home. And i never felt the pain.
I thought about these few things that are different from when I drink at home or at a party:
- Could sitting down be a factor? (you move more when your out)
- How fast you drink? (beer goes way faster at the party)
- Could talking/not talking to other people be a factor? (there is more movement in the jaw)
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I'm experiencing this pain as I type. As the original poster said was true for themself, any small amount of vodka will trigger this pain for me...
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Just spent the last hour reading through page after page of postings with my wife of people describing the EXACT symptom complex I've been suffering with for years and thought that I was all alone. Figured this was just some unusual condition that only I had. I am a physician (cardiologist) and have mentioned it to friends and collegues (oral surgeons, dentists, neurologists) and have gotten the same strange looks others have received. Although not my area, after reading through many other theories, I clearly think the pain is coming from the parotid (salivary) gland. I think the association with eating and the location of the pain implicates it. The theory of the alcohol going retrograde down the duct and then irrating it is an interesting theory. For me this ONLY happens when I drink one drink with a meal. Never when I'm having a drink only. Perhaps the food, by stimulating saliva production, opens the ducts and allows the acohol to go down. I also think the alcohol (or something in alcoholic drinks) perhaps leads to spasm of the ducts and because the gland is stimulated by the food, causes the pain.
Now that I know I'm not crazy and definitely not alone, I will run this by some of the ENT Docs I know and get their opinion. Although there may not be a cure out there, I agree it would be nice to know the cause.
Now that I know I'm not crazy and definitely not alone, I will run this by some of the ENT Docs I know and get their opinion. Although there may not be a cure out there, I agree it would be nice to know the cause.
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I'm shocked to read so many people suffer from this. I thought I was the only one because every time I ask anyone about this they think I'm crazy. But one doctor did recommend sucking on a lemon to purge the salivary duct. And believe it or not, it does help. I don't know the ages of the people who posted, but I'm wondering if there's a connection w/ age and possibly hormones. I didn't start getting this until around the same time I got diagnosed w/ autoimmune thyroid issue and then became menopausal.
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Did some research, pretty sure it has to do with the Parotid Duct. Located on the inside of your throat under your lower molars. Alcohol acts as an irritant and causes these salivary glands to swell. When irritated these glands can hurt. Water does seem help ease the pain. That's all I found, hope it helps. Answered my questions :0)
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Hi everybody:
This has been happening to me for many years - but I would describe it more as a tingling that eventually can cause pain. I found that it happens more often with higher alcohol content drinks (mixed drinks and wine) more so than beer - and I can never gauge when it might occur. It can happen in a month, 8 months or whenever; you just can gauge when it will happens. As a result, I would just stop drinking.
Here's the good news. I just had a glass of wine, had the tingle - and was disappointed because I usually stop drinking. I immediately came online, to search about it and came across this site. After reading this post - I decided to have a small bottle of water. Like magic, the tingling went away!
WATER WORKS!!!!! Thank you so much for the suggestion. I am 51 years old, and this has been happening off and on to me for 33 years! As an aside - I am in decent physical shape, have no lingering diseases (High Blood Pressure, Diabetes, etc) - I think it can happen to anyone... Ciao, Tim
This has been happening to me for many years - but I would describe it more as a tingling that eventually can cause pain. I found that it happens more often with higher alcohol content drinks (mixed drinks and wine) more so than beer - and I can never gauge when it might occur. It can happen in a month, 8 months or whenever; you just can gauge when it will happens. As a result, I would just stop drinking.
Here's the good news. I just had a glass of wine, had the tingle - and was disappointed because I usually stop drinking. I immediately came online, to search about it and came across this site. After reading this post - I decided to have a small bottle of water. Like magic, the tingling went away!
WATER WORKS!!!!! Thank you so much for the suggestion. I am 51 years old, and this has been happening off and on to me for 33 years! As an aside - I am in decent physical shape, have no lingering diseases (High Blood Pressure, Diabetes, etc) - I think it can happen to anyone... Ciao, Tim
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