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me and my partner smoke weed everynyt and all weekend, my partner is more heavier smoker than i am, but lately i cant do with out it, wantin to stop so much not even the thot of being in debt or the fact we have kids r changing our minds and tht is bad, our first nyt off it was last nyt, went to bed at ten i nvr got to sleep till haf 11, my partner sweated like mad, the covers sheets soaked rite thru, he wasnt thinking bout it at work, but as soon as he got a txt from his mate it was all he cud think about, and strung out as much as he is, he ended up goin gettin it, i really dont know wot to do to help him, was gona see if FRANK cud help, but after reading ur blog im gona get him to read it and see wot happens after tht!! if ud like to mail bkz do! thank u
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im only 15 and i have been manipulating my self into thinking i can keep smoking pot for the rest of my life, i have tried quiting a couple times but i usually break down and smoke , i am a heavy smoker about 3-4 blunts a day at minimum and i cant afford the addiction anymore . i really want a car and to get a job , pot wont get me that especially with the price of gass . i feel like i dont know what to do with my self unless im smoking or looking for a way to get weed . plus i have had alot of problems with the past girlfreinds ive had refering to me smoking . but looking at all these different methods have givin me confidence

 

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Weed, Weed, Weed.  Shame on me.  Shame on you.  Life is a roller-coaster and I don't know how much you have to do with that.  I think sometimes I try to attribute a lot of my on shortcomings to you.  Sometimes I fear that I will live out my whole life with you, always wondering how much of me was me and how much of me was you.  I don't want a crutch, but when I sit with you, alone outside, in the garage, or down by the river, I think maybe you're not a crutch.  I think maybe you've calmed me enough to unlock certain potentials that I would have naturally been too anxious or depressed to experience.  People hate you and what you've done to them... they way you've controlled them.  But who would be controlling them, if you weren't there?  A crazy spouse or a boring friend?  I don't, Weed... I just don't know.

Like all of you, I've been back an forth for 10 years.  First time I smoked I was 18 yo and then the second time I was probably 19 and then the 3rd-fiftieth times I was between the age of 20-22.  Then I went back to school and would sneak a couple bowls from the roommates shake when he was gone every weekend.  I've always had a respect for the herb and a respect for sobriety in life that I feel has kept me from abusing the herb.  Life is a bit of a wreck right now and in the last two years (age 27-29) I seem to have begun indulging more.  I work hard and I really believe that I use weed to treat the negative aspects of other personality and behavioral traits caused by genetics and parental upbringing.  I've always taken care of my s**t and started an IT career a few years back.  When I found out that a lot of the managers and programmers in the corporate environment were into that as well as alchohol, cocaine, etc.  I kind thought I could rationalize it.  Even though life's a bit of wreck, I think when you look at the past, it's better now than it's ever been.  I own my own place, have an amazing girl in my life (who doesn't drink or smoke --- VERY IMPORTANT), and a dog that loves me and love more than I've ever loved anything before in my life.  Yes, there is an underlying guilt associated with the weed that has always and will always be there, but to take the paranoia involved with being a lonely stoner (at times and in phases, of course) and to indulge that paranoia with all the negative aspects of what weed has done for me would be wrong.  At this pathetic place I'm at right now, I actually think weed has given more than it's taken from me.  I look at my parents and the way their lives have unfolded (completely substance free) and I say damn.... they're just as lonely as I've been before but they don't have the benefits of the mood enhancement provided by the weed that for someone like me basically says "Get off your a** and do something and here's your reward."  We all have vices and I don't ever want this to be a major barrier or sole creditor to my successes, but sometimes I think I can manage and that it won't ever control me.  I work in green tea joints, vaporizer hits, joints of various smoking blends that have shamanic and ancient roots in healing all while keeping my herb use to the minimum.  I hate reading that people blame weed for them not reaching their potentials and holding them back.  The way I've watched my life unfold so far, I feel, as already mentioned, that weed has helped me to work through the emotional pains of divorced parents, being beaten and robbed in American cities, having a smoking buddy who I found out was a serial rapist a few weeks before moving in with him.  Life is a wild ride and weed has just added that much more fun.  If I had kids and would actually gather up the crotch-strength to ask my lady to marry me, maybe I'd be panicking and blaming weed for all my problems like I see others doing here.  

I believe that the behavioral acts involved in getting high are addictive as some have mentioned (ie the act of rolling and smoking a joint, the anticipation of having your weed waiting for you at the end of the day, etc).  I also believe the mood swings and insomnia are probably related too, however with me, I've always had insomnia and mood swings long before I ever indulged in the weed.  If you must continue smoking or vaping or whatever just quit being arrogant pr**ks about the quality of the weed your smoking and getchya a brick of schwag.  You save money and the THC content will be easier to manage when you decide you want to quit the herb altogether.  I feel sorry for those who have grown up in California with weed being treated the way it is out there and only have sympathy for those who never felt any guilt in the beginning about buying only premium THC content medicinal herb.  In my life I've probably only had "good" weed like 3 or 4 times.  All the other times it's been cheapo stuff.  I've probably only spend about $800 in the last 10 years on more than enough weed to work into my lifestyle.  Sure, I've had pr**ks from california tell me how cheap and boring my stuff is but I tell them: "What the hell.  It does the trick for me and I don't have any real f-d problems in my life like you and I should be able to walk away any day of the week."   Right now I need to walk away but I don't want to.  Right now I find myself being one of the most talented people in my city and have not yet found work that pays more than $17 an hour.  At all the jobs I've ever had and even through school I have always take care of the serious business first, and then slowly let myself deteriorate with the weed, but never in a way that truly affects me.  Right now, weed is my way of holding the business world accountable to the truth.  It's sick, but true.  If I can't find the right job at the right price then I have this attitude of "well, damnit I might as well keep smoking the ganjoe because I do enjoy the escape and numbness it provides."  I think I'd be numb without weed because of the experiences of my life, but I dunno.  I do know that when faced with stressed (for example, I quit smoking entirely, acquired a CDL drivers license, and drove for 6 months around the country) I do have a serious anger problem.  The weed takes my mind away from the triggers that anger me when I'm caught in the monotony of everyday life where I see others getting paid so much more than me for doing so much less.  It's sad really.  The way it all mixes in.  A comedy and a tragedy all in one, right?  Can't separate the two.  When I was driving the truck, I saw how badly truck drivers are treated in America and I was so angry.  I saw how poorly they are paid while giving 100% of their times to a waiting game for freight.  They sit around at truck stops wondering if it's a week where they make $200 or a week where they make $800.  All the while, no family, no friends, etc and where are the business owners and office facilitators while your out there alone?  At home getting high on s**t like cocaine (something I have never and would never touch) or cheating on their wives.  I'm a critical person but I think sometimes... for someone as brilliant as me, sitting around and doing nothing is the only way to bring about behavioral change in the real perpetrators of the pain we are all trying to numb with our weed or our alchohol.

Is this the allure and illusion of the weed?  Or is the truth?  That's what I ask myself every day as I see my isolated life (which would be just as isolated or more without the weed) slowly reach it's boiling points. 

I don't know everyone.  I don't know.  

When does it all end?  When does this process of coming clean not from the weed but from the filth of a human life that was destined for moral failure end?  Is this life more than getting by or will I be wrapped with guilt if I ever become a successful business owner, etc.

People,  I commend you.  A sober life is the best life.  A vice free life is the pure life.  Try not to pound yourself with guilt though, that's something you were always good at without the weed and coming down from the weed just makes it seem that much more intense.  Make something of yourselves.  END THE CLUTTER of your home and your mind.  PAINT THE WALLS clean.  Walk your dog.  smoke a green tea joint or some other mild medicinal herbs that ARE LEGAL ( which will relieve some of the guilt and anxiety you feel).  If you can, try mushrooms and give your experiences all to God every day no matter how flawed or guilty you feel.  Wake up every day knowing you will be better.  DO SOMETHING THAT SCARES YOU AND DO IT WHEN YOUR SOBER.  I derive courage from weed sometimes which I am truly ashamed of and it's why some people believe I'm an a*hole even though I'm about as nice as they come.  I don't when or if I'll quit, but I keep hearing God tell me to go to a local comedy club and do some open mic night s**t even though I haven't ever done any of that kind of thing and I get scared as hell in front of people sometimes.  CHOOSE YOUR ENVIRONMENT for YOU to function at your best with or without the ganj.

Alrighty.  I'm done.  I know I'm all over the place with this post, but whatev, I read all the post leading up to it and wanted to comment. 
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 A lot of people who tries to quit weed fail because they don't have the right information or guide to it correctly. The above post is a well written one for guys like that. I am a counselor and have met so many people effected adversely because they are addicted to weed. The Major reason for them not to complete their goal, is improper detoxing and their low motivation.

What I normally do in this case is, help them to really think of all the angles of advantages they get from quitting weed. The Chain of gains they get is really simple, but they only pick up a few on their own and when they do that its easy for them to give up easily. Having the full picture on gains mainly Give them a good base to plant a high motivation to go through the period which is important.

Physically, quitting something like weed is hard on the internal systems, and it needs special attention. You just cant stop taking weed and wait. You need to supply the body with detoxing material in enough quantities and with right duration to have a smoother recovery.

This is where a good program comes into play. I get them to buy a program from the internet, and get them to follow it. This has a major success rate because they respond better to my queries on following up, due to their investment in the program. People don't take free stuff seriously but if it costs them they tend to give more attention.

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update:

   relapsed a tad, bought a single gram yesterday., I got so high I didnt feel right, I did not sweat while sleeping last night, for 2 weeks with not smoking EVERY night i was soaking my sheets with sweat. SO sweating while sleeping is definatly from "drying out" mabey thats why its called drying out, lol.

anyhoo. just a small hiccup, hopefully I have broken the habit with 2 weeks of not smoking,. I feel like I have more motivation to go out and do things without pot. I have been on quite a few long mountian bike rides with no ciggarettes or joints, AND they actually feel better without,. I find I get a natural high about 45 min into the ride,. i like this. I read an article about the human brain using a trick to keep you alive, from way back in our evoulition, basically our brains figured out how to stimulate natural opioids when under physical duress (prolonged cardiovascular workout) it helped keep up running after prey / running from bad things lol. so the high from working out when your brain cells are NOT filled with THC~CBD~pot related molecules is actually stronger, opium high trumps thc high any day of the week lol. falling in love with natural highs,.,. i guess humans make their oun drugs internally ^^ super cool

 

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i somke weed cents i was 12 and now i am 18 i wont to stop but its to hard i smoke like 3 times a day about 8 hits.i am in grade 12 now i wont to stop for grade 12.
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I can't remember how many years its been since I quit. I do not keep track as I believe it unwise to continue focusing on it. I used marijuana for several decades, and was involved in the marijuana trade for much of that time. I always had unlimited access to cannabis and used it copiously. I also quit several times (once for good). The easiest way is to go to jail. The next easiest (still pretty easy if you genuinely desire it) is to completely cut ties from the counter-culture. If you need to, burn bridges. I was once robbed by a young man who simply didn't want access to the substance. I went through dozens of rehabilitation programs including: long-term in-patient, wilderness, out-patient, AA, etc. None of it worked because I was not ready, but when I was it was fairly painless.

The biggest mistake one could make is the very one many of you are. You have maximized the obstacle in your mind, so of course it will be hard. No matter what anyone says cannabis will not give you true physical withdrawals unless you placebo them into effect. For example, I have never had a grand mal seizure or vomited violently for days on end simply from ceasing the use of marijuana. I did experience these and many more symptoms every time when kicking heroin or alcohol. Quitting marijuana probably will cause some moderate cravings, insomnia, loss of appetite, restlessness, and nausea. These withdrawal symptoms are of a psychological nature and can be handled with minimal discomfort if you have the right frame of mind.

Of course, this is just me and everyone is different. In every program I went to there were at least a couple people who found long-term sobriety using the strategy presented to them.  For marijuana it is important to pick up a new hobby to occupy your time as you will have some. I like to hike and always have. This is a great way to work out that anxiety and work up an appetite or sleep, but anything that brings you enjoyment and exercise will work. The most crucial piece is desire. You must not associate with users or go around areas where use is common. The every now and then thing isn't going to work for anyone who has an addictive personality either, so I wouldn't recommend attempting it. I believe marijuana has great medicinal value and is relatively harmless, but as with anything that causes pleasure it can be abused and detrimental to those susceptible to addiction, like myself. Marijuana is illegal and sooner or later you will have legal consequences, like myself. In the end, if you really want to stop using marijuana all you need is willpower. 

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It sounds to me like this guy has a serious anxiety disorder. Weed can be used to regulate that, in moderation. If you smoke weed everyday, of course you're going to have withdrawal symptoms. If you do anything everyday for an extended period of time and then stop- its common sense.
I dont think the panic attacks and heart palpitations are directly correlated to the weed use. And I don't think they're worth quitting altogether. Stress is a silent killer. We all feel it everyday.
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The first thing to know is that you have regiment your life like a drill sargeant. This does not mean being mean to yourself, but it means designing an airtight system for spending your time, both physically and mentally. And following the system like a soldier. Come up with a weekly schedule, write it on a big sheet of paper and pin it to your wall.  Acting out addictions is a result of free time, boredom, so you chop up your free time into various activities, say reading a novel from 2-4pm everyday. Whatever it is, just stick to the schedule. Take up various activities if you don’t have one.  Once you have the schedule, you can mark improvement by playing number games. Say if you jog from 5-6pm in the evenings, get a step counter or stop watch or try to extend your distance, endurance. Write all the numbers down. Make a flow chart. Believe I was never this kind of person. I was very chill. In the summer I would forget what day of the week it was. I was against regimenting like that, thinking it was for jocks who didn’t have an intellectual outlet so they brought numbers into their workouts. In fact, numbers, ratings will save you. Addictions feed on those who lack meaning. Self improvement, through scheduled activity and close monitoring of those activities, will boost confidence and bring meaning into your life. Some people do not need this advice. They live very scheduled lives. But they have other problems, like failing to relax. The trick is a balance act of relaxing and pushing oneself. So I suggest regimenting relaxing time too, schedule it in. Say from 8-9 pm on Tuesday and Thursday I will meditate. I will count how many breaths I can go without having a thought drift through my head. Then write it all down.  This is the trick.

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fence good post. I believe your correct about free time on your hands leading down the road to addiction. My own story is I've been a pot head for over 40 years. I've been able to build a business over the last 25 years and married to the same woman for 35 years. So where is the negative, I ask. I always feel I could have done more and I blame the weed for that. I was a terrible student, couldn''t make it through college. Weed may have only been part of the problem. I came across some old report cards from grade school and that was pre weed days. Grades were terrible, so I was dumb before weed. But I sure don't believe it helped in school. The big thing now is I had throat cancer 2 years ago. Probably the one hitter I used for 10 years. Told the wife I was done. Then I discovered and justified vaporizering. Not smoking, vaporizing. Hid it from the wife for 2 years, sneaky guy. Till this week, busted. Now what, she told me before she would leave me. But I thought too much about myself and didn't listen. So now I pray and hope that she doesn't carry through with her warning. How can I have been so stupid after being given a 2nd chance with life? I had just told a friend, not a week ago, that I was about ready to give it up. That the vaporizer didn't get me as high and what's the purpose. Believe I'm done now. Just hope it's not too late.
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I'm only 18. Started smoking at 13. Got in to a daily routine around 16. I quit 6 days ago cold turkey out of the blue. I mainly smoked at night so all my symptoms only occur at night. They are terrible. No appetite can't sleep extreme anxiety feel like I can burst Into tears at any moment I get hot and cold flashes. The only thing that's keeping me from going back to smoking is telling myself that I'm just going to have to go through this again in the future and I never want to feel this way again. Reading everyone's posts helps me alot. Thanks everyone
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Thanks for this post. Your main post and each subsequent comment really reminds me of the struggles I am experiencing using marijuana. 
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Ive been smoking since i was 18 now im 34 with 2 girls so its time for me now to fight the fight im now 3 days in to my quitting and im feeling ok now last 2 days was really hard ive tried to stop before but i was not ready in my mind cos thats what ive found you spend more time worrying about it than you should it is definatley more mental than physical not to say it doesnt hurt your body when you stop cos it bloody does but like some of the other posts have said keep telling yourself you dont need it you dont want it because yoiu will be alot happyer without mary jane in your ear hole everyday.

I used pain killers to take the edge of and they have def helped me now im not taking anything.G

 

 

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YES. The dreams are crazy. I'm taking melatonin, it helps a little.



I just relapsed after 41 days of clear-headedness. But it's ok. I'm going to forgive myself for it. I felt great for those 41 days, so clear-minded, so happy that I had been beating the urges, which as time went on were less and few. It did become easier and I know that I can do it again, this time for longer. I WILL conquer this.
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Crazy Eyes 2 weeks ago

update:

relapsed a tad, bought a single gram yesterday., I got so high I didnt feel right, I did not sweat while sleeping last night, for 2 weeks with not smoking EVERY night i was soaking my sheets with sweat. SO sweating while sleeping is definatly from "drying out" mabey thats why its called drying out, lol.

anyhoo. just a small hiccup, hopefully I have broken the habit with 2 weeks of not smoking,. I feel like I have more motivation to go out and do things without pot. I have been on quite a few long mountian bike rides with no ciggarettes or joints, AND they actually feel better without,. I find I get a natural high about 45 min into the ride,. i like this. I read an article about the human brain using a trick to keep you alive, from way back in our evoulition, basically our brains figured out how to stimulate natural opioids when under physical duress (prolonged cardiovascular workout) it helped keep up running after prey / running from bad things lol. so the high from working out when your brain cells are NOT filled with THC~CBD~pot related molecules is actually stronger, opium high trumps thc high any day of the week lol. falling in love with natural highs,.,. i guess humans make their oun drugs internally ^^ super cool


I just had a relapse after 41 days, with the same experiences as you. Had the same sweating problem...it was gone after about 3 weeks. Exercising more often has also helped me a lot.
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