subutex withdrawal symptoms

JUST WANTED TO SAY BOUT 25 TO 20 DAYS AGO I WAS READING ALL THIS STUFF ONLINE THAT I COULD TRYING TO MANAGE A WAY TO GET THRU THE SUBUTEX WITHDRAWLS I WAS EXPERIENCING. IVE STAYED STRONG AND MANAGED MY WAY THRU IT WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION MEDS. I WAS TAKING 18 MG OF SUBUTEX A DAY FOR ALMOST 7 MONTHS. I WAS UNAWARE OF THE WHOLE TAKING UR TIME DOSING DOWN AND WENT DOWN 2MGS A DAY. SO IT WENT 18 16 14 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 2 AND THAT WAS IT. I DIDNT JUMP OR NUTHN ELSE I JUST WANTED MY SOBRIETY BACK AND WAS WILLING TO GO TO ANY LENGTH TO GET IT. I HAVE BEEN LATHARGIC AND LAZY BUT AFTER 7 DAYS I STARTED TO FEEL DIFFERENT AND AFTER 3 WEEKS I ALMOST FEEL LIKE MYSELF AGAIN. I HAD TO CONSTANTLY REMIND MYSELF OF THE POSITIVES AND NOT DWELL ON ANY NEGATIVES. I WAS DETERMINED TO TAKE THIS TIME FOR ME AND NOT LET ANY EVERY DAY WORRIES CLOG MY MIND THE TASK AT HAND WAS ENOUGH AND MOST IMPORTANT TO ME. I TOLD MYSELF ILL GET TO THAT WHEN I GET TO IT BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE A MONUMENTAL TASK IN FRONT OF ME AND FIRST THINGS FIRST. I REALLY FEEL THAT SOME OF IT OR ALOT OF IT IS MIND OF MATTER IF YOU DONT MIND IT DOESNT MATTER.. ALSO WHAT HELPED ME WAS AND IS JUST ACCEPTING I WASNT GOING TO FEEL GREAT AND IM NOT ALWAYS GONNA FEEL GREAT. NORMAL PEOPLE OR A NON ADDICT DONT ALWAYS FEEL GREAT OR GOOD EITHER THEY GET HEADACHES AND THERE TIRED ALOT AS WELL.. ITS PRETTY SELFISH OF ME TO THINK I ALWAYS DESERVE TO FEEL THE WAY I WANNA FEEL IM NOT THAT UNIQUE TODAY..  I USED B-12 SUBLINGUALS, TYLENOL, IMMODIUM, FISH OIL, ONE A DAY MULTI VITAMINS AND LOTS OF GATORADE. SOMETIMES I FELT DRUNK ON GATORADE WHICH WAS KINDA COOL.. HAHA!! AFTER FIVE DAYS I BEGAN TO MAKE MYSELF EXERCISE CAUSE IM AN ADDRENALINE JUNKIE AND WANTED THOSE POSITIVE ENDORPHINS BADLY. ALTHOUGH IM NOT EXERCISING NEARLY AS MUCH AS ID LIKE STILL ITS BETTER THAN NOTHING AND ITS ALL ME NOT ANY OPIATE ALLOWING EVERYTHING TO BE OK. I USED TO GO TO A CLINIC ON A DAILY BASIS AND I WENT THERE BECAUSE I WAS COMING OFF HEROIN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE. PREVIOUSLY I HAD JUST MESSED WITH PILLS MAINLY OXYCONTIN. I NEVER SHOT ANY KINDA DOPE AT ANYTIME IN MY LIFE I COULD NEVER ALLOW A NEEDLE TO PENETRATE MY FLESH AND ALSO OUTTA FEAR CUZ IVE SEEN WHAT THE NEEDLE DOES TO PEOPLE. BUT MY POINT IS THE CLINIC WAS A BETTER OPTION THAN CONTINUING TO DO HEROIN AND LITERALLY "HUSTLE" AND STEAL TO SUPPORT MY HABIT. I NEVER ALLOWED MYSELF TO CONSIDER SUBUTEX AND THE CLINIC TO BE MY LONG TERM SOLUTION BUT IT DID ALLOW ME TO BREAK ALL STREET TIES TRY AND MAKE NEW FRIENDS AND FREE MY MIND ENOUGH SO ITS STRONG ENOUGH TO QUIT AND QUIT FOR GOOD. MY POINT IS AND IF I HAD TO DO IT OVER AGAIN I WOULD TRY AND MAKE IT ON AS LITTLE OF DOSE AS POSSIBLE AND EDUCATE MYSELF BETTER ON AN ENDGAME. MY CLINIC CARED LITTLE ABOUT ANYTHING BUT MONEY ALTHOUGH I DIDNT SHOW ANY INITIATIVE THERE OR ON MY OWN AND EVEN SEARCH ONLINE FOR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS UNTIL THE WITHDRAWL SYMPTOMS CAME AROUND.. I WOULD HAVE LIGHTENED THE LOAD AND NOT LET THEM UP ME ANYTIME I COMPLAINED JUST A LIL BIT. OBVIOUSLY I WASNT VERY SMART BUT COMING OFF HEROIN WILL DO THAT TO YA I SUPPOSE. I REMEMBER COMING OFF HEROIN AND IT FEELS LIKE DEATH AS MOST OF U READING THIS WOULD KNOW. THE WITHDRAWLS OFF 18MG OF SUBUTEX IN 8 OR 9 DAYS WASNT AS BAD PHYSICALLY BUT JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE MENTALLY DUE TO THE LENGTH OF THE WITHDRAWLS CAUSE SUBUTEX AS WELL AS METHADONE HAS A HALFLIFE AND SCREACHES ITS WAY OUT OF THE OPIOD RECEPTORS IN YOUR BRAIN. IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER AGAIN ID LIMIT MYSELF TO A MONTH AT THE CLINIC ON AS LOW AS DOSE AS POSSIBLE AND LIKE DRAKE SAYS THANK ME LATER.. I DUNNO HOW IVE GOTTEN THIS FAR OTHER THAN TO SAY IVE JUST DONE IT. IVE BEEN TO REHAB IN THE PAST AND HAVE DETOXED IN FACILITIES OUT OF FACILITIES WHATEVER AND THIS BY FAR TOOK THE LONGEST TO START TO FEEL BETTER IM NOT GONNA LIE. BUT ITS BEEN WORTH IT AND TODAY WHEN I WAKEUP MY MIND WANTS TO LISTEN TO MUSIC AND EXERCISE AS MUCH AS I FEEL LIKE THAT PARTICULAR DAY AND FOR THAT IM GRATEFUL. MY PLAN IS TO BEGIN ATTENDING GROUPS AND MEETINGS SOON AND CONTINUING TO TALK TO MY MD AND COUNELOUR ABOUT ANY ONGOING ISSUES IM HAVING. ALSO I CALLED MY STATES TOBACCO QUITLINE WHILE I HAD NOTHIN ELSE TO DO AND HAVE RECIEVED NICOTINE GUM AND LIMIT MYSELF TO ONE CIGARETTE A DAY TIL THIS LAST PACK IS GONE IT SEEMS TO BE HELPING MY ENERGY LEVEL AND I GUESS THE MORE TOXINS I GET OUT OF MY BODY THE SOONER IM GOING TO FELL 100%. FOR ME I JUST CANT QUIT AND NOT TREAT MY DISEASE IN SOME WAY I HAVE TO READ POSITIVE STUFF AND READ MY AA BIG BOOK AND PRAY TO MY HIGHER POWER. FINALLY I GUESS MY MAIN THOUGHT IS THERE TRULY IS NO CHEMICAL SOLUTION FOR A SPIRITUAL MALADY.. IM NOT ME ON ANY TYPE OF NARCOTIC AND I WANNA BE THE MAN GOD INTENDED ME TO BE AGAIN AND MAKE IT LAST.. I SHOULD BE DEAD STRAIGHT UP AND IM NOT FOR SOME REASON IVE BEEN TO HELL AND BACK I CAN SHOW YOU VOUCHERS BUT WITH A POWER GREATER THAN MYSELF I CAN HAVE A DAILY REPREIVE FROM THIS DEADLY DISEASE OF ADDICTION.. IF YOU DONT THINK ITS A DISEASE ITS BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THE DISEASE BUT IT IS A DISEASE. ITS PROVEN GO LOOK IT UP I ALREADY KNOW THE BRAIN REACTS DIFFERENT IN ADDICTS/ALCOHOLICS THAN IT DOES THOSE THAT CAN USE RECREATIONALLY IF I DONT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IN THAT REGARD IM DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS AND I CANT DO WHAT ANOTHER MAN OR WOMAN MAY BE ABLE TO DO IM SCREWED! THATS ALWAYS BEEN HARD FOR ME BECAUSE IM A VERY COMPETITIVE PERSON. BUT EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON AND I BELIEVE ITS TO BRING US CLOSER TO GOD. I DUNNO WHY IM STILL ALIVE OR EVEN HOW BUT IM GOING TO TAKE PRIDE IN THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW I AM AND CARRY MY STORY WITH ME EVERYWHERE I GO. WHEN IM CLEAN IM A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY WHO CAN SEE THINGS FOR WHAT THEY ARE NOT WHAAT MY DISEASE WANTS ME TO BELIEVE TO DRIVE ME TO WANT TO USE. I CAN DO THIS WITH GODS HELP BUT ITS BECAUSE I WANT IT AND IM NOT GONNA LIE ITS FOR SELFISH REASONS.. I WANNA LIVE NOT DIE I WANNA LEAVE A MARK ON THIS WORLD NOT HAVE A DISEASE MAKE ANOTHER DEADLY STATISTIC OF ME. IM TOO GOOD FOR ALL THAT AS IS EVERYONE BTW AND LIFE IS TOO PRECIOUS TO GIVE UP ON OR HAVE TO RELY ON A SUBSTANCE THAT MAKES US SOOO FREAKIN SICK WHEN WE DONT HAVE IT THAT CANT BE RIGHT. ITS A PROCESS AND TAKES TIME THERES NOT REALLY ANY SHORT CUTS BUT THATS NOT TO SAY THAT THINGS WONT BE BETTER TOMORROW THATS THE COOL PART IF WE CONTINUE DAY BY DAY TO STAY CLEAN THEN WE ALLOW OURSELVES TO LOOK FORWARD TO A HEALTHY LIFE WHERE OUT HIGHS ARE NATURAL AND ARE LOWS ARE NATURAL AS WELL. AND NATURAL LOWS ARE DEF BETTER THAN THE CHEMICALLY DEPENDANT ONES. I TRULY HOPE THIS BOOK I JUST WROTE HELPS EVEN ONE PERSON JUST KNOW THAT YOUR NOT ALONE AND DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE THAT UR A PEICE OF c**p WHO JUST MAKES BAD DECISIONS MOST OF MY FAMILY FEELS THAT WAY ABOUT ME AND TELLS ME SO. THEY DONT REALIZE THAT UNTIL WE GET COMPLETELY CLEAN OUR BODIES TELL US WE DONT HAVE A CHOICE.. THEY NEVER REALIZE THE PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND EMOTIONAL BATTLE WE BATTLE ON A DAILY BASIS. MAINLY BECAUSE IF UR NOT LIKE US WE DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW I KNOW THATS HOW I HAVE ALWAYS FELT. ITS EASY TO TELL WHO U GET HIGH WITH UR SICK AS HELL BUT I COULD NEVER TELL THAT TO ANYONE BUT MY MOTHER WHO HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED ME THE REST OF MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS EVEN THOSE WHO USE SPARATICALLY I COULD NEVER TELLEM WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON SO WE CREATE DEFENSE MECHANISMS AND PUT WALLS UP. THE GOOD THING IS GOD KNOWS EXACTLY WHATS GOING ON AND YES I AM ACCOUNTABLE FOR MY ACTIONS AND I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY SAYING I HAVE A DISEASE IS NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE OR EXCUSE MY ACTIONS TRUST ME IT DOESNT BECAUSE I BEAT MYSELF UP INSIDE FOR THE PLACES MY DISEASE TOOK ME TO. SO ITS NOT AN EXCUSE ITS SIMPLY A  WAY OF ADMITTING YES I HAVE A PROBLEM IT HAPPENS TO BE LABELED A DISEASE SOME DR DID THAT AT SOME GOVERNMENT AGENCY NOT ME SO IM NOT HOLDING MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOMETHING I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OTHER THAN HAVING THE DISEASE/ PROBLEM. I DONT KNOW WHY THE WORD DISEASE BOTHERS NON ADDICTS BECAUSE ITS NOT AN EXCUSE TO GET HIGH ITS NOT THAT WE WENT TO USE JUST TO FEEL "NORMAL" AND IT DOESNT EXCUSE OUR BEHAVIOUR NOR DOES IT REQUIRE OR DEMAND SYMPATHY FROM ANYONE. IT SIMPLY IS WHAT IT IS AND IF THAT BOTHERS YOU THATS OBVVVIOUSLY THERE PROBLEM DONT SWEAT THAT.. I JUST HOPE SOMEONE GAINS SOME STRENGTH THATS READING THIS AND NO THAT NO MATTER HOW HARD UR DETOX PROCESS IS THAT WE GOT OURSELVES INTO THIS AND EACH DAY WERE SICK THE CLOSER WE ARE TO NOT HAVING TO REPEAT THE VISCOUS CYCLE ALL OVER AGAIN IF WE EVEN MAKE IT BACK TO GET THAT CHANCE. I DONT THINK I HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN ME I DONT THINK ILL MAKE IT BACK ANYWHERE IF I GO BACK TO THE MADNESS ILL PROLLY DIE OUT THERE LIKE I ALREADY SHOULD'VE.. GOD BLESS DONT GET HIGH TODAY THEN PLAN ON DOIN IT AGAIN TOMORROW OTHER THAN THAT DONT THINK BE OPEN MINDED TO SUGGESTIONS OUR BEST THINKING GOT US WHERE WE ARE SO... ONCE AGAIN GOD BLESS..

Hi I've been on subutex now for 6 nd half years for treatment for heroin addiction .i can honestly say the last 6 years have been a roller coaster I have managed to stay clear of my drug of choice heroin only usin prob 3 times at the very start of treatment nd even then didn't get high!!! I started on 16 mg nd cut down over the years in 2 mg at a time I'm down to 0.8 now nd ready to jump soon.the fear of withdrawals doesn't scare me it's more of a physiological thing when I dropped fr 1.2mg to 0.8 I felt a bit ropey for couple days but nothin to cause concern next step down to 0.4 then I'm gonna jump my life has changed nd I'm ready to change I want to b free when my son is born in April nd put an end to a chapter in my life that has been 1 hell ov a roller coaster ride .im ready to get off now nd play on the merry go round !!

I've been on 0.4 for a wk now but today is the 1st day without in aching but taking valliums to help with the aggetated feeling I've been on subutex for 3yrs and that's the biggest mistake of my life can't wait to be free so 1st day without the subutex hard and constantly thinking about it but it's will power as well will never be goin on any sh*t like this again

Good morning. I have been on Subutex since 2007. I was at 16 mg a day....it has taken me this long (2014) to be on 1/4 of an 8 mg pill a day. So I am now at 2 mg. Since getting on Subutex, I stopped all opiates, got pregnant (had a beautiful healthy daughter whom I took 4 mg a day with while pregnant and breast fed her) the docs thought I was on 16 mg at the time but I decreased my dose so my child would not have to suffer. After her birth I went back up to 16 mg since that is what doc was prescribing.

I have recently graduated college with an AAS in Resp Therapy. I am currently working in healthcare as a Resp Therapist. I can pay my bills, look people in the eyes, try and help others who are taking Suboxone by telling them, decreasing their dose is good.

I have never abused the Subutex (ie snorting, shooting it) so I think that too is a big reason why I have been so successful on the medicine, you have to STOP THINKING like an addict to let this medicine work for you!!!!

My doc has slowly decreased me over the years, I am actully scared to come completely off, but I know it will be something I MUST try!! I have heard coming off is terrible, some advice that has been given to me is:

Take a lot of vitamins, drink a lot of fluids, try to keep busy!!!! SO hopefully when this does happen for me, I won't have to suffer terribly!!!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU STRONG PEOPLE!!!! WE GOT THIS!!!

You got to work your way down but some people have symptoms 1 to 2 months. Some people say it's easier to go off Herion cold turkey. That last 3 to 4 days but suboxen or subtext withdrawals are a lot milder but a lot longer. All of it is painful. I'm stuck in a country where I can't get my medicine to come off slowly. I took my last one this mourning I'm not looking forward to however long this takes. I'm on 4 mg a day that's a lot to jump off of.

I'm stuck in a country where I can't get my medication due to my debit card being canceled and I have no money to get home. I have had all the systems of coming off opiates I was on 4 mg jumped to 2 mg and was still sick. I'm getting really confused I've been here 2 months and one without anything. Will it ever go away? You really need to start weening yourself down. Some people say this is not a miracle drug at all just trading one for the other. I'm so tired of being sick!

I've been on subutex 4 7 years to treat a heroin addiction of 15 years on and off !!im 7 days off of subs now and the key is to taper as slow as u can I started on 16 mg and reduced down to 0.2 temgesic lowest dose possible was on 0.2 for 2 weeks then jumped off .my doc prescribed me zopiclone but the metallic taste put me off em my job is physical nd have to drink plenty water which left bad taste in my mouth all day :( got him to change to serequil which have worked wonders been sleepin like a baby !!also used 6mg Valium for 5 days to help the restless legs but I've managed to to carry on with my job it's been a struggle but I'm getting there each day gets easier !!nothing like coming off heroin u gotta av will power hope this helps !its a walk in the park compared to comin off heroin

it depends on how long you have been on it,your emotionsal state will be a factor,how much positive support you are getting,and each individual responds differemtly,it will get better month by month,you are doing well having come so far,try to keep busy it will keep your mind off some of the negatives,dwell mon the positives,your journey can only get better,good luck,xx

you are doing well,my daughter is on the same journey as you,is the plant you mentioned legal,and if so where is it available we live in the uk

I stopped taking subutex two weeks ago. My wife and I were taking 1, 8mg. subutex and cutting it to where it lasted us both 4 days. So we came off about a half of a mg./day. Day 1, not bad at all, a little tired, Day2 woke up with sweats, chills, the runs, Day 3-5 the same thing. Day6 I got some energy back and the sweats, chills, and runs were not as bad. by day 10 is was starting to get back to myself.

The worst of it doesnt begin until day 5-6 and lasted about 3 weeks for me. I came off of 4-8 mgs a day for 2 yrs and it just got worse after the first week and lasted roughly a month.

What's t-3 and the other u mention I don't understand I'm taking 0.5 in the morning and 0.25 evening as I'm sick as a dog by then. I'm scared now to try drop again. Feel like I'm speeding all the time. Help...

Thank you so much! I quit roughly 5 days ago, that and xanax at the same time! THAT was hell on earth! I'm happy to be drug free, but the stomach cramping is killing me. I tried to push it out of my mind, and well, I'm not in the fetal position anymore. Thank you so much for sharing!!!

hello there was just reading your post and i saw it was over a year ago but hope all is well. im not on opiates any more i have been taking 2 8mg subutex a day for about a year now and am now starting to be slowly tapered down. with drawl is diff for everyone, but it can last up to 30 days. thats enough to drive anyone mad. especially if u are like me and have restless leg and insomnia problems. these are quite common when comming off suboxone/ subutex. speaking from personal experience, in my opinion subutex is way more difficult for some to jump off of. the reason behind this is that compared to the opiate its self , subutex has a longer half life which means that it likes to linger around longer than opiates. opiates themselves have a more intense but shorter withdrawl period, meaning they suck very bad, but dont last too terribly long. un like subutex which you will have similar withdrawl symptoms that are equally intense as opiates but can last two to three times as long, you can literally feel the pain bones deep if that makes since. but from personal experience i can tell you that in my case i would rather come off opiates twice than have to go through another suboxone withdrawl. it saved my life yet at the same time made me remember that for all the things that we want or crave most above any other, there is always an equal or worse price to pay in the end. hope this helped someone.