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which supplements do you recommend. I'm cold turkey off of 2 to 4mg subutex after two years... going crazy, cant sleep, cant sit still, cant think... any help would be appreciated
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I have been taking subutex for 10 years.  I know it was addictive but it sure as hell beat the alternative of Norco and all the other c**p.  It literally saved my life and my physician thinks it's best for me to continue.  I just had back surgery and switched to Oxy and then Norco and had to get off those before I could continue back onto subutex. I've never really looked at subutex as a bad thing, it helps with pain and keeps me balanced.  But now I'm thinking I'd like to go back to the land of sobriety. I do get confused and my memory ain't what it used to be not to mention my sex life.  I'm taking 24 .mg per day for the continuing back pain but can go to 16 .mg pretty easy as that's what I was taking before the surgery.  I believe from reading this that if I cut .2 mg a week or just depending on how I feel, I can be off in 2-3 months without ruining my life. I've got a lot of responsibility and was surprised to read that people are now having trouble being ON it.  Of course when I started it wasn't readily known or available.  I'll let you know.   

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You might try going slower. Instead of cold turkey take 2 mg. Also, Xanax or Valium helps a great deal with calming you down, not a lot, just a half.mg. There are other herbal supplements advertised on these pages I took to get off two months of Oxy and Norco that helped quite a bit. You'll quit but you won't kill yourself while doing it. Hang in there. You are on the right track, I see it's been 4 weeks, how are you doing now?
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The Withdrawal Ease Opiate Withdrawal Natural Supplement System® Google them. It does help, sometimes a lot.
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You could always replace the Subutex with Norco or Vicodin or whatever opiate and make the transition to that. You can get by pretty easily on four or so a day and then wean yourself off those. It's jumping from one fire to another but it's less hot. Withdrawal Ease is a product than can help quite a bit. It seems like half the country is addicted to something so I don't look at it as a climactic experience but rather something that is helping you now that you'll slowly get off of. We all have pain especially as you get older and it doesn't have to be the end of the world. Believe me I've been through it all. So what is wrong with being on Subutex for another couple years? If it helps pain and stops withdrawal then it's working correctly. The other alternative is to stop with the use of other opiates to help get you there. Cheer up.
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That was the most honest description I have read of subutex withdrawel. Thanks for info.
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Hi i'm SAM, it's my 26th day off Subutex (cold turkey), i can tell you, the first 2 weeks are pure hell, it takes courage and will power to go through that, passed that time, the symptoms start to subside slowly, so it gets better every day, but you'll experience, now and then, some anxiety, insomnia and lack of energy, but nothing you can't handle.

Now, for the things that really help, you have, (Clonidine, Immodium, Multivitamines, B-complex), then you have (Klonopin, Ambien, Tramadol), but you have to be careful with these drugs as they can be very addictive, then at last, you can be helped by (take days off from work, family and friends support, sharing your experience on Forums like this, write down what you feel on a Diary). Wish you good luck.

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I am on day 9 today after coming off my subutex. Day 5 is when it really got rough and in 4 nights I've slept maybe 6 hrs.... Spasms twitches, anxiety . But I haven't felt like putting one in me and that's a first. Other then not sleeping & some skin crawling anxiety for no reason, its not as horrible as coming off dope. Pop some Tylenol and Benadryl and surround yourself with great company for a couple weeks if you can. The withdrawal will creep on slow peak and then finally fade away. (Like so many off us have) Still not sleeping but the uncomfort is going away. Good luck.
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I was on Subutex for 6 month thus medication for me is super strong 0.25 to 0.30 a day for six month 1pill of 8 ml last me 20 days after six month I stop for me it was really bad I was going crazy the best way to quit drugs is to give you life to God and lots of lots of prayer there is no other way
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Totally agree with you : prayer works. Some don't really get the idea of God - religion gets a lot of bad press.

I quit subs 8 days ago, having tapered off from 10 mgs to 0.8mgs from January 6th. I was on the drug for 7 years taking upto 32 mgs per day but taking 10mgs daily for the last 3 years. In 2011 I tried to quit by tapering to 4-6mg. I was in another country with no support, I felt horrendously ill for 6 months until I returned home and got some support and a script.

This time I planned my quit carefully and vowed that, no matter how bad it got, I would quit or die. I am being totally sincere here. I didn't give a f**k about what happened to me when I quit.

I knew I had lost everything and did not want another 10 years wasted. I was totally pissed off with the endless rounds of therapy, self help groups, doctors, counsellors and prescriptions. It seemed my whole life was taken by this.

How do I feel ? f*****g GREAT !!!

The physical side of the detox ( hot/cold sweats, stomach cramps, insomnia ) broke by day 4.
Sure, I still find sleep difficult but it gets better each day. I feel a bit strange sometimes.

I realise I prepared well for this and my attitude was right. And God, whoever he is for you, won't give you more than you can handle.

Compared to my first attempt, this is a walk in the park. Please don't think I am in any way arrogant as I feel a profound sense of gratitude for a RESCUED LIFE.

Take care out there.
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I had a stent of abusing vikes here and there over a few months sometimes taking 3 at a time and usually 4 to 8 10mg a day total then after a month being clean i stupidly starting taking and selling oxy's to make them cheaper and still in denial over the fact i was addicted this lasted for four months of me taking a 1/3 chunk of an 80mg and 3-5 instant release 10 mgs a day for two weeks on two weeks off despite the off time i still found myself quite hooked and just didnt want to deal with the w/ds anymore i was also a chronic bud smoker and took adds here and there eventually i was introduced to subutex and released for twenty dollars i could function on an 8mg that i snorted a few lines off of and that one pill lasted a week i continued to do this and wait tables at bj's brewhouse for a little over two years until i ended up arested and charged with possesion of subutex a class b misdemeanor in texas atleast and then a few months later i decided enough was enough cut most of my old ties including my x who is still hooked moved out of the town i was in to move back in with my parents at age 24 and quit my job told them i needed help my family was completly oblivious until this point but by making myself exercis and tapering down to .2mg a day for two weeks prior to moving back home i think overall it wasnt as bad as what i experienced before even the first week i was walking a few miles eating drinking plenty of fluids and yeah the mental sh*t sucked ass for the first three weeks but leaving the stress of my old life completly was a big help and i realize not everyone has this option at all im just glad i did and now im 40 days clean and feeling fantastic you just have to hang in there fill the void with music you like and as much exercise as you can also immodium was a big help in dealing with the physical pain and sleep aides were uself after the first 7 days were i was getting three hours max a night and yes anxiety and deppresion can be the worst of it just keep telling yourself it will pass you want control again and dont give up if i can do it so can you also i was taking vitamin b6 daily and eating plenty of bannans vegetables healthier options if you can AND LET YOUR FAMILY OR LOVED ONES KNOW WHAT YOUR GOING THROUGH HIDING IT JUST MAKES IT WORSE ive tried doing it solo before and lasted four days max multiple times

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Lmao I know this was a year ago or more but you sound like me. In going through it now. It's way worse then heroin withdrawal. I jumped off at 4mg. Husband thought I been off for a while now but I had to come clean to him at day 4/5 when I was puking everywhere and my legs were not staying still. I am expecting to be shitty for a month and then get better from there. It's hard having a clean life and clean mind and then having to go through worse detox ever for real. Heroin was a cake walk compared to this. I knew I'd withdrawal but didn't think it would be like this. Please tell me how long yours lasted and what else to expect. Also I am doing things a little twisted I've been taking something to help cause my receptors are so open and uhh I can't handle it and I was going to go back out so I did the less of all the evils but I'm not going back on subutex. I like to be able to feel and feel extreme emotion.
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The difference is because what you're describing is a 5 day detox where the body doesn't have time to get addicted to subutex, so people are using the med (probably as it was originally intended) to quickly wean off their drug of choice without experiencing withdrawals. Now, subutex is used in huge doses for up to years at a time, so of course we are involuntarily addicted to it. Our bodies are dependent upon it, and we go through withdrawal, some worse than others depending on many factors, when we are finally ready to be finished. Vicious cycle.
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iTS NOT JUST IN YOUR MIND. IT WILL START IN YOUR MIND WORSE WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETLY OFF.
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Touching!!! I'm just about to start my detox .....day 3 coming off 20mg sub .....Idk if I'm doing it right but inside me it feels like the right thing to do thnx for that ....
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