I struggled with subs for YEEEEEAARRSS. I am finally free! Here's my advice:
over the counter:
- take a lot of motrin - but break it up with acetaminophen (switch back and forth)
- immodium - be generous but don't "megadose" It will drag it out a lot longer and you CAN overdose and it can cause heart problems
- eat, eat, eat, eat, and eat some more (try to eat healthy though, colorful diet is key with lean meats) but don't worry too much about that at first.
*take a multivitamin on a full stomach*
- heres a good one - magnesium and calcium together (generous) your body is starved of minerals and everything from using and withdrawing from the subs (notice how some people sweat so much while on subs or other opioids) your body cant retain electrolytes)
this will help tremendously with aches, spasms, muscle twitches, anxiety - and it can even help you relax and get some sleep
- L-tyrosine to promote dopamine and 5htp to promote serotonin
this will help a lot with energy and anxiety and depression - youll wanna take a b complex preferably with vitamin c in it to potentiate these benefits
occupying your negative headspace
- of course exercise - even though it seems like the worst idea or it feels impossible, if all you can do is walk a few blocks - the next day you can try for a mile, then two, etc.
- music - your favorite music will give you some pleasant feelings
- anything that will keep you busy that you feel like you can handle - for some people video games, for us guys ---lol
now for prescription only stuff:
if you can get to a doctor (a lot of us addicts lack the means for this when getting clean)
if you have a decent understanding doc then be honest and tell them what's going on. if he or she thinks you are sincere about getting clean and staying clean then you may have some luck in asking for some good meds
- Neurontin/gabapentin
this stuff works like a charm in making the wd's all but disappear but it has to be high dosage which they will be very hesitant about - around 3000 mg or so is the max daily dosage and if you don't have a tolerance you can get relief from anywhere between 800 - 1500 mg - they come in 100mg, 300mg and I think 6 or 900 mg capsules (not sure)
they will probably try to start you at about 300mg (100mg 3x's daily) which you will have to use it sparingly (like when you really need it or figure out how to work the doc for a higher dosage)
- clonidine - this stuff never helped me that much but it did seem to take the edge off (they have patches and pills) .1 or .2 mg - I think its best to just take at bedtime for sleep because it will make you drowsy and it makes you feel very weak which is because it drops your blood pressure so you have to be careful
- sleep meds - you gotta try to get the real strong sh*t because Benadryl or Tylenol pm can have the opposite effect and make you wicked anxious and give you RLS when you try to lay down
e.g.: Seroquel, trazadone, etc. - the type of sleep med a shrink would give you - I would steer clear of ambien or lunesta - they can make you crazy or sleepwalk or psychotic episodes (no joke!)
requip - works wonders on Restless legs syndrome
benzos - these will be hard to get and I have to warn against it if you like benzos - and if you must use benzos stay away from Xanax - it is the most addictive of all and makes you loose control and the next thing you know your out scoring crack, doin random crazy sh*t, or WORSE- doing opioids again which will f*****g kill you if you mix the two
so if you gotta get some relief from the anxiety and everything then try to get some Librium, valium, klonopin, or Ativan - Librium is the one I would recommend the most out of all the benzos - its safer and it wont f**k you up which will send you backward after all the detox you've already endured
in conclusion I highly recommend the immodium, requip, and Neurontin, l-tyrosine, 5htp, magnesium, calcium, b-complex, c, multivitamin, motrin, Tylenol, and eating heavily (it helps your brain and your body heal, and it keeps the stomach acid down (which causes a lot of other discomfort) - and one more thing - activia - I had diarrhea for months (yes months) until I started eating activia every day
on top of all this - you have to feed yourself spiritually - take that how you will , there are many ways to do it and only you can decide which way is right for you....just find something to fill the spiritual void. if you don't you will be back here reading these posts again
best of luck - addiction sucks ass and I wouldn't wish it on anyone
peace
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I have tried to get off of subxone for over 2 years but the withdraws also won. I tried everything from products online saying the help to home remedies people on the forms talked about and nothing seemed to help not even a little. I recently tried Kratom thinking it was just another myth. I tried the O.P.M.S liquid kratom and went from sick,cold sweaty,nose running, eyes watering, brain going crazy an anxiety to feeling amazing!!! Every single system was gone!! It's been a little over a week and still feel amazing! The O.P.M.S come in pill form also witch works really good also just not as fast. What I do is break the pill and let the powder set under my tongue for as long as I can ( it tastes horrible) same with liquid I let it set under tongue for 1-5 min. You can get kratom at some smoke shops or adult stores. I hope people see this soon they are banning kratom in all 50 states September 28 2016 so they can re distribute it threw doctors.
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I have tried to get off of subxone for over 2 years but the withdraws also won. I tried everything from products online saying the help to home remedies people on the forms talked about and nothing seemed to help not even a little. I recently tried Kratom thinking it was just another myth. I tried the O.P.M.S liquid kratom and went from sick,cold RLS,sweaty,nose running, eyes watering, brain going crazy an anxiety to feeling amazing!!! Every single system was gone!! It's been a little over a week and still feel amazing! The O.P.M.S kratom comes in pill form also witch works really good also just not as fast. What I do is break the pill and let the powder set under my tongue for as long as I can ( it tastes horrible) same with liquid I let it set under tongue for 1-5 min. You can get kratom at some smoke shops or adult stores. I hope people see this soon they are banning kratom in all 50 states September 28 2016 so they can re distribute it threw doctors.
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There are people on here in complete pain and your Ganga say it's not that bad. People commit suicide from horrible withdrawal but you think it's not so bad?
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I'm currently on day 5 of no suboxone. I'll just tell you what I have been doing. Take a multi vitamin, magnesium, lots of ibprophen and Tylenol. Drink lots of water. Try to stay busy!! If you do nothing and sit around it just messes with you mentally. Usually they say symptoms peak at 72 hours after last dosage. I would say day 3 and 4 have been rough at night with the restless legs. Nobody really seems to have a great cure for those. I wish I knew it! Just stay positive, if you really want to concour this you will. Just stay positive and keep telling yourself everyday you're getting closer.
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Just man up and do it!!!
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