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I am a nurse for 19 years now.  Last March 19 i sustained a back injury while lifting 300 lbs patient.  The MRI showed annular tear in L4-L5 causing significant inflammation and herniation of 4-5 mm causing nerve root compression.  I experienced the worst imaginable sciatica and leg pains in my life.  My orthopedic spine specialist ordered medrol pack.  It relieved the pain a little but when the medicine wears off the same pain comes back again.  I had those twice already plus physical therapy and nothing seems to change.  I am planning to move to the next step of epidural steroid injection, however, a relative of mine recommended that i should try Protandim, a combination of herbal supplements, which provides a scientific breakthrough in antioxidant therapy.  In short, i tried it, in fact I double dose the medication the first 2 days since its only herbal and it claimed no side effects.  The third early in the morning i woke up and miracle of all miracle i felt a lot better.  The sciatica and leg pains were reduced dramatically up to 80%.  Now my pain is well controlled I would say 2/10 and I am happier and my mood is much better.  I would recommend that you try this.  You can watch the featured video at www.abcliveit.com.  Now, I am no longer taking any pain pills and I am hoping that this will continue so I can go back to my work soon and enjoy my life again.  Let me know if you are interested. ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** private e-mails not allowed*** Please read our Terms of Use

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I had the same thing and I didn't feel a thing if ur anxious they will give something to relax and then they start injection lidocaine into the area where the doctor is going to insert the epidural once that is done I didn't feel any needles or catheters inserted in my lumbar area. Trust I was so nervous but they put an I've with 10mg of versed and I was relaxed. I don't understand everyone else maybe it was their doctor but mine was great didn't feel a thing. Good luck
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THANK YOU to all who posted here. I just had an ESI about an hour ago and am back home with no side effects. The shot, however, hurt so bad I cried out for a second. After that I just wept very hard, but silently. The doctor was kind, but the assistant was pretty cold, didn't even offer me a kleenex at the end. Having been told ahead of time that the procedure would start with a local pain killer, I assumed the ESI itself would be painless. When it ended up hurting so bad (and because the assistant was so cold) I came home thinking maybe I had been a big baby. Now I have no doubt my pain was VERY real. Thanks so much again to all of you. I feel much better emotionally. P.S. It didn't seem to help my back pain or the numbness in my leg, but perhaps it is too early to tell.
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I'm so glad I found this discussion. I have had a total of 3 ESI's and the first two were fine because I had Twighlight sedation both times. The third time I thought I wouldn't need the sedation because I felt little to no pain the first two times. Boy was I wrong!!!! The shot they gave me to "numb" the area was a joke! It was VERY painful and I quietly fought back tears. I have a lumbar herniated disc at L5-S1 and had been in SO MUCH pain (including Sciatica in my right leg) over the last 3 months I was used to taking pain pretty well without crying. Then came the actual shot. OH MY GOD!! I screamed at the top of my lungs "THAT HUUURRTS" followed by extreme sobbing and cursing like a sailor. The Dr was calm and said we were almost done but by that time I was clutching the ends of the table to the point that my nails were digging in and my tears soaked the tv screen on the floor under the table. The assistant was very sweet, touching my leg to let me know she was there. I kept cussing and crying till they were done and had to just lay there face-down before I could muster up the strength to get off the table. 

It took 2 people to help me up and I could barely walk to the check out area so I could catch my breath and sit for a minute. Sitting was excruciating and I had to lean completely to the right. The nurse took me by the arm and I limped to the front office, teary-eyed and swollen to make my follow up appointment. By then I was so upset and in so much pain I didn't make my appointment. I felt like I had been tortured and that the torturers wanted me to come back for more. I just limped out to the car where I cried the entire way home. I went back to my bed that I had made on the couch and screamed and cried as loud as someone who had been shot with a gun. Nothing helped. Sitting hurt, laying down was NOT happening and my husband didn't even know WHAT to do because I was screaming out so loud and unable to be helped! Knocking myself out with my pain meds and muscle relaxers was the only thing that got me out of that horrible experience, only to wake up hours later with an awful headache, party from crying and partly from the shot. 

I'm starting spinal decompression in a week. I'm still in the pain I had before the shot 4 days ago. I'm unable to straighten my leg or raise my arms without crying out. Still sleeping on the couch, icing and taking meds.:'(

For those of you deciding on whether or not to get the shot, PLEASE ask for sedation. Trying to just take the pain is just plain stupid. It's like asking for someone to perform surgery without sedation. I'll never make that mistake again.
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Even with workers comp, you don't have to take the injections.
I was injured on the job and was told I needed injections. I told them "No thank you" and that was the end of it. I still have future medical care open if I change my mind....
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I had a cervical laminectomy done in 1998 after being rear ended in a car accident. A cervical disc was compressed and arthritic spurs were digging into the nerve. Had a great neurologist at Rush Hospital in Chicago. After months of physical therapy, no relief. Told me epidural was a waste and very temporary. Surgery was painful, but 6 months later, pain free and have been so ever since. Now am going through lumbar epidurals after a lumbar fusion. L4-L5 and L5-S1. First one did little good. Second one gave 50 percent relief. First 2 were almost no pain. Third one was injected lower and was more painful but bearable. Given lower to work the muscle surrounding the sciatic nerve. But so far so good. Definitely helps who is doing the injection.
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Depending on the location seems to cause less or more pain. Had 3 done. First 2 in area of L4-L5. Almost no pain. Third done at L5-S1 to ease the sciatic pain. Was painful the whole time, but bearable. Didn't take anything to relax. I really think by reading the posts is the doctor doing it makes a big difference. All I can say is do some research into the doctors past patients and their experience. There are good and bad in all professions. I have had some terrible doctors but thankfully the ones I have dealt with lately are all highly professional and caring.
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I had a slip and fall and was given an Epidural steroid enjection. The man that did it hit a main nerve and I about came off the table. It put me in the hospital for a week on morphine that really didnt take away the pain that I was put in. Been living in pain for 18 years now because of the legal system and them not wanting to admit that a mistake was made. The pain goes down my right leg and is so bad at times I just dont know how much longer that I can deal with it.
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Thank you for your Post, I had my first of 3 ESI's today was told that after numbing the area (my tailbone) I shouldnt feel much..WRONG!!! I have NEVER felt pain like that in my entire life! I could not stop crying for hours, It was worse then child birth.I had re-pinched my Sciatic nerve 36 hours proir to injection and truly feel he peirced my nerve.
I have an extremely high tolerance for pain as you said it was pure torture! And they had the nerve to ask if I wanted to set up my next visit,simply saying it shouldnt of hurt.I cried reading your post knowing what you experienced,I hope your health has greatly improved.Thank you for sharing. ~Sandra
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You are absolutely right - it really matters who does these. I had one horribly painful injection, guided by fluoroscopy, around a bone spur into the nerve root for L3-4 damage. It worked beautifully with 60% improvement after a few weeks. I am going back - the doctor who does these is incredibly good. I will be taking some Valium before the procedure, however... :)
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I'm having the same problem. Are you feeling any better? I should have never gotten those shots.
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Hey kathy, hows that d list going girl?
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I havehad a series of 3 epidural injections in my lower back, then i had surgery (microdisktomy) Nov. 2010. After surgery I went thru all the physical therapy humanly possible and nothing has helped. Now I have had SI injections in June 2012 and lumbar facet nerve block injections in Sept. 2012. I am in more pain than ever. What do I do now? And what have you done that has helped you. Please email me if you have any answers at _[removed]_ Thank you, Scotty
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Hello.  I have several buldging and herniated discs in my spine, however, the L5, S1 is by far the worse.  The entire disc material was blown out and covers an area of 18mm in length and 10mm width, or so the MRI reads.  This happened 9 years ago and I was recommended to have surgery but did not want to have it.  I've managed over the years to know what I can and can't do, manage my work or heavy lifting with periods of reclined rest.  This allows me to do my daily work and even manage to do some things I should not be doing.  Like many others I'm sure, I have no choice but to do things that I should not.  So, after my younger sister had an EPI, she got such relief, she suggested I go back to the spine doctor and get new evaluation.  The doc suggested the EPI in the worse area (L5 S1) since it was the worse of all my problems.  When I went with my sister, they gave her relaxation meds and an IV. She told me she had to be awake for them to make sure they had the right area but as soon as she felt the pain in the right area, they immediately made her fall asleep.  She was fine afterwards and was able to go home in about an hour.  Okay, so, I go to this different doctor that my insurance will cover.  I go in this morning for my EPI.  They take me back.....I'm told to sit in this recliner and they will come get me.  A nurse comes to get me, takes me to this room with an X-ray table in there, a pillow in the middle.  She tells me to unzip my jeans and lie face down on the table, the pillow under my chest but a little lower.  Has me raise my feet, puts a pillow under the front of my shins.  She lifts my shirt up in the back.  Already red flags are going up in my head.  I'm wondering why no gown?  When will they give me the relaxation meds, the IV????  The doctor enters, swabs me with betadine and takes a metal marker and they turn on the flourscope.  He moves the pen then marks on my back with the pen the areas where he will place the cath.  I'm still wondering when the drugs and or IV??  Then he tells me I'll feel a pinch from the numbing shot and I do, no problem.  Then, he tells me that he will be placing the cath in and I should tell him when I feel the pain.  I'm still waiting for the meds and figure he's just setting up before I get groggy.  Next thing I know, I'm feeling this gosh awful pain, my left leg is kicking so bad on it's own the nurse has to hold me on the table but I could care less because I'm just trying to breathe from the intense pain that has now spread down my left leg, a little on the right, all the way up to my shoulders, the top of my head and radiating from of all places, my teeth!!  It was all I could do to lie there and grit my hurting teeth, clenching my fists and feeling like the pain is so bad I might pass out.  I finally find my voice and tell him it's hurting so bad I can't stand it, can he stop?  He tells me just a few more moments, seems like fifteen.....and he pulls out the needle, the cath still in.  It was still hurting so bad but not as intense as with the needle in.......Then he shifts or moves the cath, dunno if he took it out and replaced it in another spot because it was hurting so bad I couldn't tell, just felt pain and pressure.    He tells me one down and one more to go.......I tell him, I don't think I can stand this another time can you stop?  He says this one will not hurt as bad so I say nothing and he continues.  He was right, it didn't hurt as bad but it was so close I could not say it was any better for me.   I tell  him, I can't take this any longer, can you stop.......just a couple more minutes, which felt like eternity.  Finally, he removes the needle, some relief and the cath....better.  The nurse tells me she's washing off the betadine, with ice water, I assume from the feel of it.  Then she dries the area, slaps on a  band aid and tells me to sit up but don't try to stand.  I do as instructed......to end this novel, after I can walk, about ten minutes, I can leave but will need to come back in two weeks to go again. ;    It's been 8 hours and I'm having all kinds of spasms up and down my legs/feet/back  some discomfort but can't say I feel any better but feel the pain is from the needle trail or cath trail.  I don't think I can stand the pain to go back in two weeks to have this done again.   Why did I not receive the IV and relaxation meds???  Why didn't they tell me?  I assumed it was standard what they did and that you would NOT feel the process.  So, why do they not give me the meds???  Can I ask for them for my next one in 2 weeks?  I honestly cannot go back and have this done again without any assistance.  It was the most painful thing I've ever had done to me and I gave natural birth to two children, in labor for over 36 hours, had my pelvis separated to give room for the large baby and none of this was as painful as this, although it was so painful I never dreamed anything could be worse.......was I wrong?  

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what do you do for the leg/butt pain? I am dying here...had epidural and now both legs/butt are throbbing. I have had epidurals before with no pain like this even though they didn't help much
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