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"Ok. Bull;hit over, bbb you buy a disposable SIM card and I'll buy one too, swap numbers. I need to speak to someone directly, I can't visit a lawyer saying I'm on a tread, want to peak direct, if anyone's to pu/sy fair enough, but I've this 10 yrs and best yrs if my life gone but need to figure it out before I die. " I don't think a lawyer is going to fix our problems. I'm starting to think the whey protein has so much tryptophan, which has caused our brain chemistry to become serotonin dominant. If guys have too much serotonin, it causes ED and Low Sex drive as well as many other side affects. Now I'm just trying to figure out the best way to increase dopamine, and lower serotonin. A lawyer is not going to do anything for us, plus I don't want their paper money. Look up how to naturally increase dopamine, and lower serotonine. It can be done, but it takes time. Probably why it takes so long to recover from taking whey. Ray Peat has some good ideas, even though some of his ideas are a bit wacky, he makes some good points on the benefits of lowering serotonin and increasing dopamine. BTW Ray Peat is also high critical of whey protein shakes mainly because it has so much tryptophan in them. 

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It seems that you are the only one who havent recovered it may be not the whey thay cause this to you all the people recovered in maximum 2 years it seems that you do have something else
Go to neurologist this is my advise
Dont leave yourself like this
Go to doctors
Talk to a lawyers
We dont have too many 10 years to be wasted
Sorrry for your pain

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Thanks man, hope youre doing well, must go to a neurologist and see if they can figure this out. trust me, it is whey that's caused this, if I touch it I get a setback, I'm not the only one that didn't fully recover there are others too. Did recover twice and ate whey by accident and was set back so it is the whey. I mentioned going to a lawyer earlier not to get money but to find a doctor through a lawyer that would be totally determined to find out what the nature of this effect is as doctors work alongside lawyers. Was drunk when I wrote it hence the bad writing!!!
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What do you mean that you took whey by accident ??
How lond did you use whey to make you dont recover for 10 years ?
And was it a full recovery or not ?
I will go to neurologist by the end of the month and i will tell you

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Hi, I didn't get the reaction until 1 year so didn't realise it was whey causing it and took it on and off for another two years. Discovered it was the whey and stopped taking it, took 2 years and 5 months to recover first time, then drank "options hot chocolate" at night for about one week and woke up one morning set back again, options hot chocolate is full of whey powder. Then took about 4 years to recover next time, then ate cheap melted cheese on toast from a deli for about 5 days and reaction came back again, turns out the was whey and vegetable oil added to the cheese. I believe the longer you take it the more your body remembers whey and sets of reaction easier and makes it harder to recover, look at past posts, there was a guy from Spain who after one tub got reaction, then recovered, then tested it again and took just one scoop and got reaction very bad. If you're going to a neurologist make sure he doesn't try and tell you it's all in your head, make sure he knows it's a physical reaction from whey protein and when left long enough in water turns to ammonia and poisons your blood. Pressure him into working hard with you to discover what is causing this. Keep in touch and let me know how you get on, thanks.
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Soo you left yourself unrecoverrd for ten years ?
Why you didnt go to a doctor
Its not HIV or cancer
I believe it effects the blood vessels
Try to donate blood it may help you
Its my third month without whey i used it for 5 months non continous and i feel the recovery hope i can be full recover within months as my blood analysis is more than perfect
It effects the blood vessels thickness causing peripheral neuropathy
It either reversible or irreversible depending on how long do you use the whey

In your cause am.sorry to.tell you it may be a irreversible peripheral neruropathy ..
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How do you know exactly it thickens the blood vessels? No one knows exactly what causes it until it's scientifically proven in a labratory, everyone has their own opinions but no one really truely knows what's causing it only that we're all suffering from it. I believe the immune system has something to do with it and is causing weak erections because if I eat clean I'm better than if I eat certain processed foods, BBB says this also about how he eats. I'm sure I can make a full recovery someday, I took a lot of whey for ages when I was bad with low libido and did recover twice and it was only a small amount that set off reaction, so its just a long long waiting game, I think it makes your body do something to shut down your libido.

I've been to a eye ear nose and throat doctor with this cause as I said it made the glands in my neck swell up and my throat very red, he didn't realise it was the whey and he removed my tonsils...!!
He then sent me to a respiratory physician who didn't realise it was the whey and just did a few blood tests...
I went to a urologist who checked my prostate!! And then he sent me on to an endocrinologist who tested my hormones and said its not hormonal...
I've also recently gone to a neurophysiologist who prescribed me steroids that I cannot take, but I have to go back to him soon but I believe a neurologist would have been a better choice than a neurophysiologist...so I have done a lot to find out what's going on, I was also drivin so crazy by this situation I went to a psychic to see if that would shed some light on this situation but they're all bull&hit...
Also went to regular doctor several time and was prescribed antibiotics etc etc etc
Let me know how you get on if you go to a neurologist, keep in touch and get well soon...
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But why did you left yourself like this
Why you didnt go to doctor and another one till you find what happened
We need to be updated for what happened to us
Anyone who went to a doctor please help us to find what is the cause
I dont find the reason till now
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I guess it cauase peripheral neruro pathy
Becasue i have the same symptoms
Loss of lipido erectile dysfunction frequent urination sometimes numbness
Its not about hormomes or serotnime or dopamine its all about the blood vessels or damage the nerve terminal
I will go to a neurologist by the end of the month
And sure i will let you know
What i dont get that most people revovered
Why you didnt recover ?
I will do my best to make us recover in no time
Keep me updated
Aaa
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Everyone didn't recover. I recovered twice but knocked it off again, bbb isn't fully recovered either, a lot of people posted here but only one person adrianj said he was fully recovered and one other guy that took it for a short time only said he was at an acceptable level, that's only two. There was another guy here named "under" that had it bad for two years but we haven't heard from him in a while and if someone doesn't report back doesn't mean they're recovered, so I'm not the only guy not recovered or that has this a long time. I have warned people in several posts that the quicker you give it up after you initially you get the reaction the better chance you'll get a quick recovery, if you mess around and test it again taking whey again to see if it knocks you off again you can get stuck with low libido for quite some time. Let me know how you get on with the neurologist and hopefully we'll all get to the bottom of this, all the best...
Mmm
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No one recovered
And you recovered twice :D
It make sense :D
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What's that supposed to mean??
So you're suddenly an expert and you know everything, where's the cure then, you're the one not making any sence, and if you read the previous posts I wouldn't have to repeat everything to you twice. And if someone says it could be dopamine or serotonin causing this you can't prove them wrong, beginning to think you're taking the pi&s
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Why you didnt make a serotonin analysis test ?
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Any news from thoses who recovered or improved help us please am goin to die
Sss
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I have just came from my doctor and i have 2 news one is good and the other is bad
The good news that the case is curable
The bad news is that it need a surgery
We do have accumulated fats or the unsouluble parts of whey on our blood vessels that cause numbness and ED and in my case cause also frequent urination
I will.go to him after 3 weeks to decide either i go for the surgery or not
Be safe guyz its a cuarble case but i fear from the surgery
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