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9 to 17 being 9 to 5. 17 is the hour of the day at 5 o-clock. I guess thats 1700 military time?
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People.....TRY to get off Suboxone as soon as possible. DON"T LISTEN TO THE DOCTORS!!!! They really don't know this drug because it hasn't been out long enough for research to know all the details.
I was on hydrocodone....about 15-35 pills a day..sick! I stopped COLD TURKEY (I stopped cold turkey cause I quit cigarettes n honestly forgot to take the pills but decided to get off them then n there)....and was in diarreah mode for over 15 days....plus I had the sleepless restless nights, sweating all day, chills, yawning, sneezing u name it. So after 3 weeks, I took a pill just to feel better. I was doing soo good n then started again.
Then....I found out about Suboxone. The doc is not suppose to put u on them until u actually start the withdrawals. Drugs should not be in ur system they say when u take Suboxone. I was given 8mg...told to take it once a day. At first I thought my head was going to really explode! I called the doc and he told me to take a half in morning n half at night. So I took a quarter instead...and it WORKED!
I asked how long I had to stay on it, and he planned a year but said others stay on it for life because they don't want to take chances. I didn't want it for life and nor did I want to be on it for a year. Those visits and pills are super expensive...cheaper to just do the drugs geesh. (but don't do it) But I refused to hurt my body any longer.
I didn't listen to my doc. I took a quarter or less of the 8mg a day maybe twice a day...just a pinch of it...and it did work for me. Might work for others. There was no headaches, life was good. Yet when I decided to get off them I hated my doctor for not being fully honest with me.
I still have a bunch of suboxone and refuse to touch it....IT"S BEEN 2 WEEKS SINCE I GOT OFF THEM...and the first 2 days were okay but I couldn't sleep through the night. After the 2 days, I would go to sleep, fall asleep for 2 hours and then have MAJOR insomnia!!! I was sweating....guess the toxins were leaving my body cause I never sweated or smelled like sweat! I was super weak and u all will be too but fight it guys fight it!!! My diareahh is what killed me.....I was so sick of going to the bathroom. It was liquid out the wrong area...sorry tmi.
I'm now in my 2nd week.....exactly 7 days into it, I went to the bathroom normal and YELLED YEAYYY never thought I'd be soooo happy to go to the bathroom normal..(c**p normal actually but trying to be a lady here lol). Yet 2 days later it was not 100%. I have been eating a lot of spicy foods so maybe that's why but it's NOTHING like before. I feel sooooooooooo HAPPY!!!! My energy is almost all back. I am craving odd things which I found out is part of the withdrawal..odd. Been craving eggs and steak n at least it's not drugs. Had a thought here n there but after u quit...n go through what I went through...n it'll be worse for others who used more of the suboxone....it will all be worth it in the end.
Guys...take vitamins, take benefiber, eat right...n FIGHT THE WITHDRAWALSSSS I want to get pregnant some day and found out that if you get pregnant on suboxone, and then decide to stop, you will lose the baby. It makes sense cause the withdrawals r not fun.
I sleep through the night now...I still go to the bathroom n not 100% back, but what coudl we expect....weve been messing out bodies up for years....it won't go back to normal in just a few weeks right? GOOD LUCK TO ALL YOU OUT THERE>>>HOPE ONCE U GET OFF SUBOXONE, U NEVER DO ANOTHER DRUG AGAIN. Think the best thing to do is have a vacation planned (off work) n stop the suboxone a couple days before so u could get back to work n feel up to it.
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damn someone just answer his question. taper down to about 2 mg then every other day for a week or so.4-5 days sick. months mental sick
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Take my experience as a grain of salt... I've read all the replies on here, and many of them are just ludicrous (no offense but you're giving people VERY WRONG information). First of all: Suboxone withdrawals are NOT, I repeat NOT worse than heroine, OxyContin, or ANY opiate for that matter, they are much much MUCH less intense. I was doing multiple 80mg oxy's a day for 3 years, then began doing about 2 grams of heroine a day for about a year. Throughout those years of experience, I had gone up to 9 days without oxy, and 7 days without heroine, and also many times had gone around 72 hours without using. My point being, I have a lot of understanding of the physical affects of withdrawal symptoms of both drugs. After trying to quit for years, I decided to go to a clinic, and get on a Suboxone regiment. It had been 3 days since I last used heroine, and I was obviously in FULL withdrawal. The doctor prescribed me to begin with 16mg of Suboxone, sublingual pills. I took them, and within 1 hour my withdrawal symptoms subsided nearly completely... the rest was psychological. I took 16mg for the first month. Second month 12mg. 3rd month 8mg. 4th month 4mg. I then remained at 4mg for 8 more months. You may wonder why I stayed at 4mg for so long, but the reasoning is valid. In order to get clean and STAY clean, you should have a solid financial income, a good support group of non drug users who understand your addiction, and just a solid life all together. After 1 year of being on Suboxone (which 8 months of it I was on 4mg), I decided I was in the right place to quit. I told my doctor I was ready to quit, and once I finished my prescription I was not going to take it any more (he agreed I was ready). I was concerned about the withdrawals after a year of use, and not tapering to the recommended 1-2mg before quitting.

In conclusion, moral of the story, I have now detoxed from the Suboxone completely, and the withdrawals were VERY minor compared to the horrors I have been through with opiate withdrawal. The only affects I felt were slight discomfort (but no restlessness), I felt slightly depressed physically and mentally but nothing more than a hangover. After 72 hours from my last 4mg dose I felt great.. and have ever since.

PLEASE DO NOT let these peoples ludicrous horror stories with completely incorrect information deter you from your want to get clean. There is GREAT hope for you, and I know you can all do it. Do not fear Suboxone, think of it as a tool, and use it to save your life and it will.

Much love and respect to all who have a want for a better life, I feel your pain, and I send you my best wishes. Stay strong and TAKE that better life you know you deserve!!!

-Robert
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you are right, heroin is the most intense withdraw I have felt! the difference is Methadone...which i switched to after. took 100% longer to withdraw from. Methadone gets in your bones, the only felling I could use to describe it is that I felt cancer growing in my bone marrow. I felt the need to break my legs in half and knew it would not be enough. Once I started to go to a private DR. he dropped my Methadone done slowly to 10 mg. 1x a day. ( from a total of 125mg day) Once we both decided to drop it to 5 mg I felt sever withdraw. He sugested 1mg of suboxon. this seemed so wuch better that 5 mg of methadone. I was able to fight any urge and continue with a productive lifestyle. the 2nd mo at 1mg. I started takind .50 mg then went to .25 life was still ok I wasnt tired and I could live my day to day. I am now 4 days off suboxin and I am always tired. my brain wonders if ths is the wy my life wil continue until I am clean fer two years? I dont think I can make it. To those who think anyone of these drugs are esy to kick. God be with u! In less than 3 years I have done it all. then, first time i did heroin(same as oxycotton) felt like I finally found god! I go day by day to find my real god to give me strength now. Everyone is different, I hope that you each find the key to ur sobriety . As I try everyday.
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I was on heerion and suboxon for the past 8 years. Im in my 13 day off everything and I did it cold turkey. Although I dont suggest anyone who has a better way to go do it this way. I was never so sick in my life. And beside the Death of my parents this is truley the worst thing I'v ever been through. I have been praying a lot. It seems to help. Listening to music also helped. I still can't sleep. And, food just doesnt look or taste right. From what I understand these symptoms should be subsiding. I really think I screwd up my nervous systom because, I cant stop shaking. Only time will tell. Hang in there. The sun will shine again.
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Another poster said that suboxone withdrawal is hell, I've tried to kick the stuff 5 times, and he is right. I had heard all the stuff about suboxone withdrawals not being that bad and I was shocked at the amount of suffering. Others have said the way to go is tabbering over a long period of time, I quit after being down to almost nothing, I thought I was in the clear but in a few days it kicked in aboit full strengh. Honestly you will be a thousand times better off to use vicodin for 2 months in place of suboxone, vicodin is 4 days and out you feel fine. May be 5 days for some people, for me its actually 3. Its slightly more intense than suboxone but suboxone is evil because it just goes on and on and on forever it really wheres you down. Vicodin withdrawal is about 5 percent more intense, but is over and done before your will gives out on you. Inifinitly easier imo to white-knuckle-it off of vicodin than suboxone. Both of wish Ive had the pleasure to experience many times. Sorry if my grammars poor Im using a phone, and I hope this helps.
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I have been on Suboxone for 4 years now and have tried to stop because now I go through withdrawl on a daily basis. When I completely stopped taking it I got so sick that I couldn't move for several weeks. Then I started taking it again and it worked like it used to for a few weeks. Now it makes me sick every day and so the logical thing is to taper off because there is no benefit to it. I have read that the long term use of this drug is not known but I do know that I wish I never would have taken it in the first place. Everyone responds differently to stopping Suboxone and I can only hope that there is a return to normalcy after a while. It sounds like it may take a long time according to some of the posts. This is very scary to me because I simply cannot afford to have the same kind of down time I had before. With suboxone there feels like there is no way out except extreme suffering.
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How long were you using opiates for? Did u need to take a anti-depressiants at all when you stopped using suboxone? Were you ever on Methadone before you got on Subuxone?
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The secret to alleviating all of the withdrawal symptoms of Suboxone starting on the very first onset of withdrawals is to take small dosages of an opoid. Taxing for example hydrocodone in small amounts.



I didn't know this the first four days, but the symptoms were so devastating, that I was going to my brains out or go back on it. But I didn't want to go back. In addition I learned it could take as much as year to be 100 % back to normal. So I read up on how suboxone works on the brain, I then hypothesized that since suboxone was not only an opoid antognist, but also an opoid like percocet, hydromorpone, hydrocodone, etc, that if I returned to an opoid, that I could take small dosages, and the litle by little reduce my opoid intake.



I then began my expirment. I took a 2 mg hydromorphone pill left over from earlier back problems. I immediately began to feel symptom free. When I began to feel the onset of symptoms again, I took another 2 mg pill. In the begginnig, I took 5-6 2 mg pills a day. i began taking less and less until the seventh week were I am down to 2, 2 mg pills a day.



I hpe this works for you. I will update when I am free of all drugs.



P. S. I was only on 4 mgs of suboxone a day for 14 months. If you are on larger dosages, such as 8 or 16 mgs of Suboxone a day, or have been on it longer, I will guess it will take larger dosages of an opoid to do the trick, and you will have to take them probably for a longer period of time.
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Day 4..Coming off sub when taking 8mg per day.

Was in the military and got hurt, put on some oxy's for 2 years and decided my time with pain meds was done.  Went to a methadone clinic for a year taking 80mgs.  Taper'd down to 25mg's and switched over to suboxone since I could get it for free from the Veterans Hospital.  My doctor pushed me up to taking 32mg's per day.  Not sure why.  When I was in my teens and doing Heroin I could take 1 2mg pill and feel fine all day.  So after 3 years of 32 mg's and failing 2 drug test for benzo's my doctor said she couldn't prescribe to me anymore.  Over a 4 month period she tapered me down to 8mg.  Went last friday and she wrote me a script for 12 2mg pills and said good luck.  No more taper.  She almost got her head ripped off in the process but w/e.  So it's been 4 days without sub.  Stopping at 8mg's.  I feel like c**p, but I can function still.  My muscles feel weak, but it's nothing compared to the heroin w/d.  Yeah it may last longer and I might not be in full w/d yet, but people seem so afraid to stop.  IMHO, sub w/d is all mental.  I don't have the back pain, eat a few xanax and can easily fall asleep.  It's not meant for the weak, but then again we are all weak for getting ourselves in this situation.  Think outside this little hole we dug ourselves in and honestly it makes me feel better.  I'll post back here with more notes on how my w/d's are going.  If it only feels like this then it's not so bad.  Will see though.  

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So how are things going for you Jay? I have been in Sub withdrawal for 26 days, just wondering how you are feeling.
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Wow Robert!!! Will wonders never cease.... SORRY !!! But I Whole Heartedly DISAGREE !!! Although I am very happy for your success on beating this Godsend/Demon addiction- dependencey, etc. with no problem. I do have to reply to your post ... now I have proof that everyone is different....I have been dependent on buprenorphine-Subutex for 1year and 1 month. Unlike some of you on this forum, I was prescribed this medication for chronic pain. that I've had chronic pain for over three years now. I tried to get off buprenorphine 4 months ago and it was pure HELL !!! Only made it to day 7 and then I was crying and begging my Dr. for a prescription... She wasn't willing. She said " You're the one that wanted to get off of this and I told you it would be bad." I told her that I didn't think I needed it because the epidural steroid injections relieved my pain.Of course she couldn't write a scipt - not without a visit.... Yes...another $35 copay... and of course she wouln't be able to see me till the following day... Yes I get my pain meds as long as I go in once a month and have my $35 copay....and do a urine test once every 3 months or sooner due to their discreption in which they bill my insurance $230 each time( thank God for insurance )Buprenorphine has been very good to me... it definatly relieves my pain but on the other hand it is ruining my relationship and my life.... NO MOTIVATION, always tired, and just am not the way I used to be,,,, I started out on 4mg X 3 daily... after 4 months I realized I only needed 2mg x 3 daily, then 1mg x 3 and most of the time I only take1mg x2daily. Depending on my pain.. Last August when I tried to give up the Bupe I went from 1mg x2daily to 0.5 x2 for 3 days then the last 3 days 0.5 mg daily. I am on this forumm looking for information so i can plan my next detox soon... I have gathered alot of great info and am fortunate and forever so grateful for all of you sharing your stories... Bless you all...Stay Strong!  *Peace*

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two years takin subs

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im on day 7 8mg suboxone cold turkey. all i can say is i dont feel right, you know the common symptoms. but i truely think the worst is over im hoping. still have the runs and sleep isnt good. i dont have any access to any benzos or anything that will alliviate the w/d so ive noticed if i keep busy im O.K.. how long will this last i need positive input
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