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Dear Guest and Need_to_heal: First NTH - You are still in early days, and I promise it WILL get better. Like a lost love you will ALWAYS think about it. But each day that goes by you will think of it less. IF you get panic attacks you can talk to your doctor about getting some anxiety pills - just for the short term. IT is hard going cold turkey, and I worry that this is going to be a hard battle for you. If you ever need to talk I'm usually on here - you see the steps are, 1. your an addict, 2. you get clean 3. you are on a site helping others continually with no life!!!! ;-) XD So you have this site too look forward too!!! JK. Also if you ever need to get back on "something" you should talk to you doctor before trying anything OK? Good luck hon!

Now Guest, you are lucky in the fact that it has been 3 months, but that said it still is long enough to get ahold of you isn't it? The good thing here is that your pain is gone!!! Which is excellent, as people who still have pain their addicted brain will make it intolerable for them. I cannot tell you how long the withdrawls will last, because each person is different. Your brain is making you sleepy, as it makes you agitated. You can take melatonin and other herbs too calm you down. IF you are not feeling any better in 1 month then get checked out by your doctor. Just to make sure panic isn't taking over. Good luck OK? And keep me updated on your progress - both of you!! Luck and health and here's too being clean!!!
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Ah, I think you got me wrong here :-P I'm not really "addicted" to Oxycontin (Nope, not joking, I'm a hemophiliac, I've been on and off Oxy for 3 years. I know that if I take them when I'm not in pain, I wont have any left when I'm actually in pain. And having a joinbleeding without painkillers, even for a day, is 10000X more excruciating than what i'm feeling now. Besides, if I take any more now, I'll reset the withdrawal period again), I'm just getting sick and tired of the effects, and I like having a timetable for things :-P

The last 3 months have been hell for me physically. Been taking meds that should help with my bleeding tendency, but they don't work at all and I keep getting jointbleedings in my ankles and knees. Now it has stopped and I wont take any more painkillers for nothing.
I've never been on them for this long before, and that's why withdrawal is such a b***h atm.

Posting this in a forum where people are actually addicted to the stuff might spark answers like "He's lying" or "It's not possible to withstand the urge to take more". But truth be told: I am more afraid of physical pain than mental pain. For me, withstanding the urge to take a pill that I might need a thousandfold more later on is like choosing between standing on a cliff watching the scenery or jumping off it just because you want to check if you can grow wings and fly.

To the people who are addicted I'll say the following:

There is no difference between you and a naturally happy person. Get off the drugs and you'll have just as big a chance of becoming happy as the rest of the population. Be strong, have a goal and imagine what it will be like when you reach it. Were you a normal person before you got into surgery and needed the painkillers? If yes: Endure the months of hell and become that person again. If no (or if you never had any pain and got the drugs illegally etc): Kick that b***h of a boyfriend/girlfriend or whatever is making you unhappy out of your life, get out more and rebuild your life from top to bottom.
Even if you're holed up in a dingy little apartment in a crappy neighbourhood with no job, life is still good, simply because you're alive and able to do whatever you wish. Use that freedom to make yourself happy (Just remember, drugs are bad mmm'kay).

I do of course know that what I just said means nothing when you're feeling like c**p and have no hope. But it's the truth, and it should be told. Even if only one in a million took it to heart and got his or her life together, it was worth offending the other 999.999 people.
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Ah c**p, I just spend 20 minutes writing that because I missread your post, you werent speaking about me first xD Sorry!

But hey, what I said still stands in some way!
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Yeah you were just 2nd!!!! ;-) XD It takes a strong person - like you obviously are - too get off of these meds. Reading what you are going through I am actually wincing for you! I hope you find some relief, I have stated on other posts that the medical community is having a hard time wrapping their minds around all of this. They HAVE to perscribe you something strong too take care of the pain that you are in, but they are SO bloody addicting, that the addiction creates more problems. And how do they get you off the damn things while still keeping you pain free?!!!

A dilemma for them, a nightmare for us. The way I see it is - and this is just my laymens oppinion of course - the pain you are in MUST be your 1st thought of controling. I don't know if you believe in this, and believe me I am NOT pushing this on you. So what has helped me, is marijuana! I have a good friend who makes the healthiest cookies - with CHOCOLATE - ;-) And they contain enough MJ too take away the pain and shakes for me. I'm also VERY entertaining at parties!!!! ;-) XD XD My teenagers look at me like this o.O When "Mommy had her special cookies" what makes me laugh is this. I have a card too grow my own and have possession of it, I can buy it through the government. BUT my doctor can perscribe a THC spray that has NOTHING in it, it was like squirting water into my mouth. So the government and insurance companies had no problem me having that - because it was from a pharmecutical company. It was $600 a MONTH!!!! Do you have any idea how many cookies I could have my friend make for that?

It is disgraceful what is "legal" and what isn't. So if you have ever thought about that, you could give it a try. I don't smoke so the only way I can is too injest it. Just a thought OK?

I wish you all the health and best wishes possible. And I hope that you don't put the chance of being addicted above the terrible pain you are in. I know that goes against everything I have said too others, but you are a different case. God Bless!!!
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So heres my story.. I dont know why butt ever since my uncle died and my grandma and grandpa I just couldnt drink / smoke anymore, it was waying me down to much, like i would be stuck on the couch all day after i would smoke, and if I drank I would feel like sh*t in the morning this all before I turned 16. I think either right before I turned 16 or right after, I was given a percoset and lets just say, I loved it. I never felt so good. SINCE that day, I dont know it was just like an immediate addiction. I ended up doing 30mg 6x a day for about a year and a half. RIGHT before I turned 17 I got turned onto suboxone to stop doin the pills.. IT WORKED AMAZING! I absolutly quit and hated oxycodone for 5 months, longest I went in the past 2 years. AND THEN.. :-( I keep running out of my suboxone ( doc. to quick to taper ) and I would keep getting withdraws. THESE WERE JUST AS BAD IF NOT WORSE THAT THE OXYCODONE with draws!! Suboxone websites (blog sites) have users stating that their withdraws lasted 3 weeks. That I couldnt do, I couldnt imagine it. So when I ran out 2 weeks before my next appt. I turned back into doing pain pills. And trying to stay away from oxycodone did NOT work. All the people I know with pain pills, only had that. So in fear of withdraws, I started using again. It got SOOO bad. I LOST EVERYTHING! I owe 1000$'s of dollars to creditors, and ALL my good stuff is on the pawn shop, about to get lost. Now I have to sell my nice ass car, just to get everything back. Thank god I still have my parents! Or I would be screwed. :'( It has been 5 days ( on day 6 ) with loratabs, about 25mg a day. give or take, thanks to the parents. Now I have to get off them and I just a little concerned I may not make it. Not that I really have a choice though, because If I ever use again, I will get kicked out, none of my fam. will take me, and Ill be homeless. :'( So what to do? Someone please help... lol Just give some advice.. pleasee.. lol :$
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HI ALL!! I'm a newbie! I hope I don't post the wrong thing. But I wanted to try and help Dr. Gothica. I have been in 2 car accidents and have fallen down the stairs numerous times (and always on the same side). I have some sort of disability (I have the strength of a 90-yr-old) and will ALWAYS be VERY fragile in my back pelvic area (with mild artritis). I also have a number of other health issues. But, last night I took an Ultram and it REEEEAAAALLY took away my urge to take one of my MS COTINS. I am SOOOOO paranoid about abuse and addiction! I have been on narcotic pain meds for 4yrs. now. Anyways...in the search option on my computer I typed in "off-label uses for ultram." I selected #2).Tramadol (Ultram) Facts e-MedExpert.com and it was SOOOOO helpful. I HOPE this helps in some way! GOD BLESS and HIS BEST to ALL of you!!! :-D
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Hi Honey: I feel for you. So do I understand that you were taking these illegally and not for pain? Due to that it's a bit more difficult for you, but DEFINITELY doable. You are still young, this will soon be a distant memory I promise.

So I need to know a few things first OK? Were you on the Oxys for pain? Who put you on Subs? Who put you on loratabs? AND the most important question, whomever put you on loratabs - do they have a plan for you?

Let me know and I WILL help you further I promise.
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:-| I am29 years old got sucked in 2 pills my fav are perc ten. use to take four to six a day, now eating almost twenty and could eat more. tollerence just doubled in the last two months. I am so mad a myself and do not need these pills at all. Have no pain besides if I dont have any pills. Also spending hundreds a week. Going to stop have 2 weeks and need to do it at home any suggestions on what to have and do. Have zanax also some seraquel that will make me sleep. Wondering if i should take the seraquel to sleep alot so dont have as bad of not sleeping and feeling like sh*t, I have from the 28 till the 2 to be home by myself with my family out of town. What should I do. Starting Sunday only going to take at the most 8 which is in half. I do have willpower and have quit these before now it has me by the ass. PLEASE SOMHEONE WRITE ME BACK ASAP THAT HAS ADVICE I KNOW I REALLY SHOULD GO TO REHAB. CANT SHOULD I HAVE THINGS HERE LIKE MOTRIN AS WELL OR SEE IF MY DOC WILL GIVE ME SOME NON NARCOTIC PAIN MEDICINE. HAVE BEEN TAKING FOR AROUND 3 YEARS NOW. NOT EVEN FUN NO MORE I JUST NEED THEN TO FUNCTION. TJ. I WOULD BE SO HAPPY IF SOMEONE HAS THE HEARTM, MY GIRL JUST SAYS ITS MY OWN FAULT TOUGH LOVE RIGHT. I OWN MY OWN BUSINESSES DO ALRIGHT BUT WASTING MONEY AND MY HEALTH, BEING LAZY, NOT MYSELF.
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I am a wife of an addict, he was addicted to meth and has been off meth for 9 yrs . last year he had a accident which lead to doctors giving him pain meds , after about 3 mo on pain meds he told our doctor he couldnt get off of them, doc weaned him off and he did well for a while but has recently doing them again oxycontin (not sure if i spelled it right) this time. He is trying to get off. i googled for some help and found you all. My heart is breaking for this wonderful man who has a terrible problem, and i want to help him if i can. from what i have read it sounds like we need to go back to the doctor and start on a weaning program again. He is going to go back to his 12 step program from when he was in recovery from meth, and start going to meetings. I guess my question is Is there anything i can do to help him?
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Dear Addictswife and Guest! I was addicted to Oxycontin and Oxycocet for over 3 years! It took me 6 months to get off them! And I KNOW 1st hand how hard it is! To AW when you have been an addict before it is SO easy to be an addict again, be it alcohol, drugs, cigs, even carrots and salty chips!!!!!!! It is in the genetic makeup of the person, they HAVE to replace their addiction with something else!

Oxycontin, is the ultimate Catch 22, you need it for good pain relief! YET it is SO addictive, it is hard to get off! I think your husband should go back to his doctor - as he seems to have an open relationship with him! And start weaning on them! I will reiterate what I have told MANY on here, start cutting the pills in half and your addicted brain actually believe you have TONNES of pills! So bring that up to his doctor, some don't know about this! Just be there for him, and he might slip up, but he is NOT failing, it is just his addicted brain has a HUGE hold on him! Also if he is still in pain, tell him to ask his doctor for Tramacet, I have been on this for 3 years and it has been a God Send for me! You don't get high, thus it's hard to get addicted!

Now my dear Guest!!!! You need to see a doctor about getting off these! Be open, you have already stated that you are an addict - this is the 1st step! Then tell your doctor, and he/she HAS to help you kick this c**p to the curb! Due to the fact you are ingesting SO much, it is going to be a rough journey but you CAN do this honey! You know that old statement "If I can do it you can do it!"? Then it is totally true!!! IF you insist on doing this yourself the only advice I can really say is get a smaller bottle - to hold the pills in - and cut them in half! I know to ordinary people this sounds stupid, but it is NOT!!! When my angel of a doctor told me to do this, I didn't believe it could work, but it does!!! Your addicted brain doesn't care how many pills you have or intake as long as it cessiates it! So when your addicted brain actually sees the amount of drugs being SO much! It calms down! So this way you start getting back your life, and for your "normal" brain to start taking power back! I really don't want you to be taking other narcotics while you are getting off this, There is an excellent medicine called Mirapex! This helps you with tremors and "jerky" legs! So ask your doctor about this!

Once you start on this road of getting your life back, I promise you that other things will come together as well! No one wants to be an addict, so it ISN'T your fault that some company made a drug that is SO addictive it has ruined thousands upon thousands of lives! The makers of Oxy were actually taken to court about 2 years ago, to face charges that they didn't tell anyone just how addicting these are. It's Heroine!!!!! Plain and simple! We are Heroine users, wearing dresses and suits!! We aren't some prostitute or homeless person shooting up on the streets, we are people with families "shooting up" before dinner and after the kids go to school! I am a 45 year old married mother of 2 teenagers, NEVER did I think I would be addicted to something, and one day I found myself LICKING the insde lid of my container!!!!!!!!!!! I still have half a pill in my purse, it is my truth, my past, my survival! I will NEVER take that pill! It will always be there as it is in my mind! So I really understand you honey, and I would really like you to get some professional help with this, even going on methadone - which didn't work for me, but at least I tried it! I'm usually on here so you can talk to me anytime OK?

Good luck and health to both of you!
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I have read all of the posts here and my heart goes out to all of you who have suffered from these addictions and dependence on pain medications. I too suffer from dependence on my pain medication. I have Diabetic periphreal neuropothy and ruematoid arthritis as well as degenerative disk and scitica. I wanted information about how to wean myself off of all the medications, and they are oxycontin CR 60mg2x day, oxycodone IR 20 mg every 4 hours for break through pain. I have been on these for about 7 months, I opted with these because they didnt give me that yukky head in the clouds feeling like so many of the other meds they had tried me on before these. I want OFF of all meds. I want to see what my true pain level is with out the pain from the meds interfering. I want to live life free of narcotics for pain. The pain from the disease was excrusiating but it may have gotten better now, but how would I know since if i have a hard time going 4 hours with out pain from not takin the meds. I need some feed back I read the cold turkey could kill a person and I take metoprolol and lisinapril which scares me when i read a person could have a heart attack. some feed back would really help me to understand and make disisions better. Thank you every one and sorry for spelling badly.

confounded

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YOur spelling is fine and there's no reason to apologize. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope that you are feeling better. Can you tell us more about your progress?
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Dear confounded! Actually I DONT want you to go off the pain medication OK? I want you to replace it! When you become an addict to a POWERFUL pain medication like Oxycocet and Oxycodone, your brain will make it intollerable for you - in the pain centres of your brain - because it wants you to remain on them! PLEASE don't do this OK?

I have a VERY similar pain problem to yourself, so I will tell you that I take Tramacet 325/37.5mg 2/4X's a day! This works SO well, I also take Hydromorphcontin 6mg for any breakthrough - which doesn't really happen very often!

Your doctor is going to have to figure out the equivalence of the Oxy's to the Tramacet! So for example, if he/she reduces your Oxy = SLOWLY! By 1 pill at a time, then he/she has to replace that with the equal amount of Tramacet! When you are FULLY on the Tramacet! Or any other medicine that would work for you! THEN and only THEN can you take the chance to see where your pain level is! On some days I take more than usualy and on some other days less!

So have a good talk with your doctor OK? And just know that this is becoming the norm nowadays - unfortunately - and your doctor will understand the severity of this and help you! Good luck and health!
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It was a huge struggle for me to make the disision to go on these meds in the first place because I have watched them distroy lives over the years. The level of pain and the fact that my Doctor and neurologist told me that I would prolly suffer from this kind of pain the rest of my life. Believe me I didnt take it lightly. I was bedbound and crying and screaming much of the time. I got to where I didnt want to live any more if this was what life would be like, Then they put me on these and omg what a difference I was abole to stay out of the bed and begin to walk and swim which in turn enabled me to start loosing wieght I have lost alittle under a hundred pounds now. Then my world shattered it felt like. My Doctor had to move back to her home town to be closer to her mother for medical reasons and she handed me over to another doctor in the hospital she believed would keep me on track. Well was she ever wrong the first thing that happened was the new doctor threatened me that if I didnt just do everysingle thing she said she would fire me as a patient and that I wouldnt get my meds. This sent me into panic attacks. She wrote the first time I saw her " against her better judgement" quote her words. she treated me like a criminal and her nurse treated me the same way. I felt worthless that day I walked out of her office. I was confused to say the least. I kept going over everything i had accomplished in my mind I had gotten my blood sugar down below 140 on a regular basis from the 300s and 400s. I had lost all that wieght I was making all my appointments etc....... what did i do wrong! All I know is if this is the way people are treated because of the meds they are on I want nothing to do with them. I just dont know how to get off of them. The pain is constant and daily but livable on the meds. I just want to live free though......... Im not normally an addict but The way that doctor made me feel I have to assume I am an addict. By the way the second visit she only wrote for part of my meds and screwed up the wording in the ir script and no one would fill it I took it back there and 3 different days she did it wrong and I never did get that script and when I tried and called her to try and get it to control my pain. she will not return my calls. I have fired her and am looking for a different doctor before i run out of the ONE she did give me. I dont know what to do!
I hope this is what you ment by pprogress . I feel like i just spilled my heart out. Sorry

confounded
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