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Hello. To answer you question, yes I was on crutches after the screw removal. It was about 3 weeks, when I went back to have the stitches removed, my Dr. told me to wear the boot as long as I could. I was to use one crutch for a few days then gradually begin to walk. I could tell a difference with the hardware out, it was much easier to move my toes. Although, I still cannot bend them like my good foot.
My ortho surg. did not suggest thearpy, I had to ask for it. So, this is why I did not go until after my second surg. It could be too late for me, I'm thankful that I found this place, reading how others had progress with thearpy, made me request it.
I think the thearpy is helping...
Take care,
SKH
Hello. To answer you question, yes I was on crutches after the screw removal. It was about 3 weeks, when I went back to have the stitches removed, my Dr. told me to wear the boot as long as I could. I was to use one crutch for a few days then gradually begin to walk. I could tell a difference with the hardware out, it was much easier to move my toes. Although, I still cannot bend them like my good foot.
My ortho surg. did not suggest thearpy, I had to ask for it. So, this is why I did not go until after my second surg. It could be too late for me, I'm thankful that I found this place, reading how others had progress with thearpy, made me request it.
I think the thearpy is helping...
Take care,
SKH
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SKH
Thanks for your words of encouragement, it helps so much to know that someone else can understand how I feel. I totally understand the shoe thing as I have been living in tennis shoes, I tried to wear some wedges, not a very great idea!!! Oh well...think of all the money we are saving!!
Thats great about PT it has definetly help me, but is still painful! My newest pain is the largest incision it feels like it is going to tear open when I point my toes. Not a good feeling! But just one more step in the healing process! Hopefully this time next year all of us will be back to 100%.
To all of you continue to stay positive and smile! If any one wants to vent or has any questions about post-op or PT I am here to help. Have a great new year!
Thanks for your words of encouragement, it helps so much to know that someone else can understand how I feel. I totally understand the shoe thing as I have been living in tennis shoes, I tried to wear some wedges, not a very great idea!!! Oh well...think of all the money we are saving!!
Thats great about PT it has definetly help me, but is still painful! My newest pain is the largest incision it feels like it is going to tear open when I point my toes. Not a good feeling! But just one more step in the healing process! Hopefully this time next year all of us will be back to 100%.
To all of you continue to stay positive and smile! If any one wants to vent or has any questions about post-op or PT I am here to help. Have a great new year!
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In case my minor obsession with tracking football players who have had lisfranc injuries is of interst to anyone else, I have updated the list recently, at <http://lisfrancnews.blogspot.com/2006/11/football-players.html>. I've been including represenative quotes from newly-added articles -- and there are some interesting ones.
Links to a couple of new studies and some other materials are also at <http://lisfrancnews.blogspot.com/>.
--Brad
Links to a couple of new studies and some other materials are also at <http://lisfrancnews.blogspot.com/>.
--Brad
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To Whomever, Mayber Dr. Lady....
I suffered a Lis Franc injury around 1992, while playing soccer. With no insurance at the time and a pile of student loans piling up, I went without a visit to the ER, Dr's Office, etc. About 7 years ago, I met a buddy of my brothers who's an Orthopedic PA, he described the Lis Franc injury to me, I met a podiatris., had the foot exrayed, nuclear whatever, but I don't think an MRI. I was told there were already signs of arthritis. Weight loss, stretching, frozen coke bottles and finally orthotics were what followed. The podiatrist never really answered much after that, except saying we would work on my gate, and that did not happen. My friend the Orthopedic PA, thought that not much could be done. Did I mention that I don't have much of a fat pad on my foot... weather I was born that way or because I waited tables for so long I don't know. Now my right hip hurts and I feel as if I'm having circulation issues of some "itchy" sort. Hopefully advancements in techniques, such as those for example with the shoulder and how somethings are treated, ie, drilling versus cauterizering... have shown successfully. I would love to hear back from everyone. Tacoma, WA
I suffered a Lis Franc injury around 1992, while playing soccer. With no insurance at the time and a pile of student loans piling up, I went without a visit to the ER, Dr's Office, etc. About 7 years ago, I met a buddy of my brothers who's an Orthopedic PA, he described the Lis Franc injury to me, I met a podiatris., had the foot exrayed, nuclear whatever, but I don't think an MRI. I was told there were already signs of arthritis. Weight loss, stretching, frozen coke bottles and finally orthotics were what followed. The podiatrist never really answered much after that, except saying we would work on my gate, and that did not happen. My friend the Orthopedic PA, thought that not much could be done. Did I mention that I don't have much of a fat pad on my foot... weather I was born that way or because I waited tables for so long I don't know. Now my right hip hurts and I feel as if I'm having circulation issues of some "itchy" sort. Hopefully advancements in techniques, such as those for example with the shoulder and how somethings are treated, ie, drilling versus cauterizering... have shown successfully. I would love to hear back from everyone. Tacoma, WA
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Hi,
I had (another) rather disheartening appointment with my orthopedic surgeon yesterday, and thought I'd turn to the internet for some research. I'm hoping someone might have some insight for me! I injured my foot about 7 months ago hopping over a chain link fence -- turned out to be not much of a short cut! I think my foot caught in the fence and that's what caused the damage. I broke the 2,3,4 metatarsals right at the Lisfranc joint and needless to say did a LOT of soft tissue damage (both the Lisfranc and the next joint up). I was lucky that I was diagnosed right off -- the orthopedic tech. in the ER picked it up, and I've been seeing my orthopedic surgeon ever since, but have not (yet) had surgery. I was 6 weeks in a non-weight bearing plaster cast, then another 5 in a non-removable walking cast. After the cast came off, I did lots of physio, and had good results getting my range of motion back. Things seemed to be going well, until my first check up after the cast came off. The joints haven't healed well -- apparently the problem is that there isn't enough space between the bones. After yesterday's appointment, I'm down to two choices -- do nothing (and put up with the residual pain -- which is not constant, but also not predictable -- weather changes, cold, humidity, too much walking all seem to be triggers, but sometimes I think I've done nothing to aggravate it and it hurts) or have the joints fused. Before my surgeon will consider fusion I have to have a bone scan, a CT scan, and yesterday she injected a local anaesthetic (to give me an idea of what it would feel like without pain in the 2 joints she would fuse). I must say it was 2 hours of heaven (until the freezing wore off, but that's another story). The joints on the little toe side of my foot need to be in good shape, or she won't consider fusing the others (I believe because the benefit would be minimal). I've looked through the posts here, but didn't notice anyone having this type of surgery. Just wondering if anyone has had it done, or ruled it out for some reason. Thanks very much!
I had (another) rather disheartening appointment with my orthopedic surgeon yesterday, and thought I'd turn to the internet for some research. I'm hoping someone might have some insight for me! I injured my foot about 7 months ago hopping over a chain link fence -- turned out to be not much of a short cut! I think my foot caught in the fence and that's what caused the damage. I broke the 2,3,4 metatarsals right at the Lisfranc joint and needless to say did a LOT of soft tissue damage (both the Lisfranc and the next joint up). I was lucky that I was diagnosed right off -- the orthopedic tech. in the ER picked it up, and I've been seeing my orthopedic surgeon ever since, but have not (yet) had surgery. I was 6 weeks in a non-weight bearing plaster cast, then another 5 in a non-removable walking cast. After the cast came off, I did lots of physio, and had good results getting my range of motion back. Things seemed to be going well, until my first check up after the cast came off. The joints haven't healed well -- apparently the problem is that there isn't enough space between the bones. After yesterday's appointment, I'm down to two choices -- do nothing (and put up with the residual pain -- which is not constant, but also not predictable -- weather changes, cold, humidity, too much walking all seem to be triggers, but sometimes I think I've done nothing to aggravate it and it hurts) or have the joints fused. Before my surgeon will consider fusion I have to have a bone scan, a CT scan, and yesterday she injected a local anaesthetic (to give me an idea of what it would feel like without pain in the 2 joints she would fuse). I must say it was 2 hours of heaven (until the freezing wore off, but that's another story). The joints on the little toe side of my foot need to be in good shape, or she won't consider fusing the others (I believe because the benefit would be minimal). I've looked through the posts here, but didn't notice anyone having this type of surgery. Just wondering if anyone has had it done, or ruled it out for some reason. Thanks very much!
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Hi everyone!
Its been awhile since my last post so here's my update.
Lisfranc fracture of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th metatarsel at the joint on February 20, 2006. No weight-bearing x-rays. CT scan. Air Cast for too long. Cast for 4 weeks approx. Crazy diagnosis anywhere from 0 broken bones to 3 broken bones diagnosed over a 6-week period. Weekly x-rays taken for 8 weeks. OS did not recommend PT. Prescribed orthotic - which helps a little but after a long day walking around shopping even that hurts.
Took my daughter to the doctor for a dislocated elbow and thought I would complain about my sore foot while I was there. She requested more x-rays. These ones were different from all the rest - they had me put the arches of my feet together. Anyhow, they now tell me I have arthritus and that I should go see a Sports Medicine Doctor.
On a more positive note, since December I have taught both my kids (3.5 year old boy and 9 year old girl) to ski. My youngest is skiing on the Green slopes and the oldest thinks she can ski on Black Diamond (I don't think she's ready yet, Blue definitely). I found some EZ On ski boots (where I didn't have to squeeze my foot in) that fit and skiing doesn't seem to hurt my foot too much. Getting back in to shape, however, is another matter. Walking to and from the lodge bothers me. I figure its because my feet are cool when I'm skiing and keeps the swelling down. Anyhow, I'm having the best time with the kids and look forward to going up the mountain now whenever the weather is nice. I want to teach my little guy to skate but don't want to try my figure skates on - they're a little tighter fit than ski boots with much less give. Maybe in a month I'll give it a go.
So for those who use to ski, give it a try. I rented equipment before I bought it just to make sure and for someone whose foot constantly hurts and has just been told they have arthritus, skiing is not too bad.
I'm now looking for more information on arthritus - I'm not even sure if I'm spelling it correctly.
And for everyone reading these posts, I'm sorry that your here reading them but at least you know that you're not alone.
Cheers all, Kelly
Its been awhile since my last post so here's my update.
Lisfranc fracture of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th metatarsel at the joint on February 20, 2006. No weight-bearing x-rays. CT scan. Air Cast for too long. Cast for 4 weeks approx. Crazy diagnosis anywhere from 0 broken bones to 3 broken bones diagnosed over a 6-week period. Weekly x-rays taken for 8 weeks. OS did not recommend PT. Prescribed orthotic - which helps a little but after a long day walking around shopping even that hurts.
Took my daughter to the doctor for a dislocated elbow and thought I would complain about my sore foot while I was there. She requested more x-rays. These ones were different from all the rest - they had me put the arches of my feet together. Anyhow, they now tell me I have arthritus and that I should go see a Sports Medicine Doctor.
On a more positive note, since December I have taught both my kids (3.5 year old boy and 9 year old girl) to ski. My youngest is skiing on the Green slopes and the oldest thinks she can ski on Black Diamond (I don't think she's ready yet, Blue definitely). I found some EZ On ski boots (where I didn't have to squeeze my foot in) that fit and skiing doesn't seem to hurt my foot too much. Getting back in to shape, however, is another matter. Walking to and from the lodge bothers me. I figure its because my feet are cool when I'm skiing and keeps the swelling down. Anyhow, I'm having the best time with the kids and look forward to going up the mountain now whenever the weather is nice. I want to teach my little guy to skate but don't want to try my figure skates on - they're a little tighter fit than ski boots with much less give. Maybe in a month I'll give it a go.
So for those who use to ski, give it a try. I rented equipment before I bought it just to make sure and for someone whose foot constantly hurts and has just been told they have arthritus, skiing is not too bad.
I'm now looking for more information on arthritus - I'm not even sure if I'm spelling it correctly.
And for everyone reading these posts, I'm sorry that your here reading them but at least you know that you're not alone.
Cheers all, Kelly
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i am so grateful to have found this forum.
on oct 28, '06, i took a step in 6" heels that i didn't see the step. I had a 2 cm gap between my 1st & 2nd toe, tore the ligament, and fractured the 2nd toe. I also have minor 7 fractures across the midfoot. surgery was done on nov 7, '06 by putting 4 pins. i've been in 4 difference casts since then, and almost got the pins out in dec but the Dr. wanted to give the ligaments a little more time to heal.
For the first 8 weeks, I had to lay in bed with my foot elevated above my heart -- AYY! I went stir crazy. The last two weeks, I moved back to my house and have been just non-weight bearing. So I've been up more, cooking for myself. I was about to have a breakdown -- I've been keeping my depression at bay -- and then I found this found. It's awesome to have somewhere where people can relate.
So, I thought I'd share here that it gets better, and it gets worse, and whatever is going on, however it feels, remember to trust yourself, and evenwhen the path may not feel like a straight line, it is the most direct path for your healing.
In love!
on oct 28, '06, i took a step in 6" heels that i didn't see the step. I had a 2 cm gap between my 1st & 2nd toe, tore the ligament, and fractured the 2nd toe. I also have minor 7 fractures across the midfoot. surgery was done on nov 7, '06 by putting 4 pins. i've been in 4 difference casts since then, and almost got the pins out in dec but the Dr. wanted to give the ligaments a little more time to heal.
For the first 8 weeks, I had to lay in bed with my foot elevated above my heart -- AYY! I went stir crazy. The last two weeks, I moved back to my house and have been just non-weight bearing. So I've been up more, cooking for myself. I was about to have a breakdown -- I've been keeping my depression at bay -- and then I found this found. It's awesome to have somewhere where people can relate.
So, I thought I'd share here that it gets better, and it gets worse, and whatever is going on, however it feels, remember to trust yourself, and evenwhen the path may not feel like a straight line, it is the most direct path for your healing.
In love!
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Anyone have any experience with long term pain (6 years+)
I broke my foot while windsurfing... caught in the footstrap and folded it over.... It didn't hurt to bad at first. But I knew right away because it wouldn't take any weight..... I thought it was a Tib-Fib injury... I sailed in on one foot... made my way to the hospital. ......... I wish it was a Tib Fib.
My foot was put in a cast (open) and recasted 2 weeks later closed. I was in the cast for about 8 weeks 4 completey non weight bearing. Then I was allow to put a very small amount of weight on the cast. Once the cast was removed we slowly increased the amount of weight to the foot.
I was very patient and it seem to get better... but never fully healed. I allways had pain in the foot. But now I am getting a fair bit of pain/tightness in knee/hamstring/calf.... eventually lower back.
Does anyone have experince with treatment, such as fusing this long after the injury.....?
I broke my foot while windsurfing... caught in the footstrap and folded it over.... It didn't hurt to bad at first. But I knew right away because it wouldn't take any weight..... I thought it was a Tib-Fib injury... I sailed in on one foot... made my way to the hospital. ......... I wish it was a Tib Fib.
My foot was put in a cast (open) and recasted 2 weeks later closed. I was in the cast for about 8 weeks 4 completey non weight bearing. Then I was allow to put a very small amount of weight on the cast. Once the cast was removed we slowly increased the amount of weight to the foot.
I was very patient and it seem to get better... but never fully healed. I allways had pain in the foot. But now I am getting a fair bit of pain/tightness in knee/hamstring/calf.... eventually lower back.
Does anyone have experince with treatment, such as fusing this long after the injury.....?
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Hi all! Okay, I know this isn't the lisfranc joint but it was something positive about fused bones that I heard from a friend that had a friend a long time ago that injured himself when he was a youngster. He had a lot of pain and eventually ended up having his ankle joint fused because of it.
My friend said that his friend still limped but not nearly as much as before the fusion. It has been awhile since he's seen his friend but he felt that overall the fusion was better for his friend.
I hope this helps those that are facing lisfranc fusion surgery.
Cheers, Kelly
My friend said that his friend still limped but not nearly as much as before the fusion. It has been awhile since he's seen his friend but he felt that overall the fusion was better for his friend.
I hope this helps those that are facing lisfranc fusion surgery.
Cheers, Kelly
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I broke my left lisfranc joint in sept. 06. when I tripped over a rope mooring a sailboat across the beach at my son's birthday party. Well that put a damper on things. I had surgery a week later with 5 pins placed in my foot. After 3 months of non-weight bearing I had a second surgery to remove the pins (just in time for the new year!). My family have been real troopers helping out. I am now in PT and wearing my husband's boots because I can't fit into any shoes. The funny thing is my foot isn't swollen wide-it's swollen in height. I have extreme pain but keep thinking about what the surgeon told me from the start-that eventually I may need surgery to fuse the joint because of the onset of arthritis in the joint which will be very painful. I thought he should just fuse it from the start but he said it may never happen. Anyway, if the joint needs to be fused he said after the surgery, I will again need to be on crutches for 3 months. I guess at least I'll be a pro at them. I'm sorry you have to go through it but at least I know I'm not the only one. It could be very depressing!
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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Hello all,
I found this site with posts Q&A with a Doc. I thought it might be helpful. The original Q&A doesn't say too much, but you could ask a more specific question about fusion.
myfootshop.com/Discussion/index.asp?http%3A//www.myfootshop.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dget_topic%3Bf%3D4%3Bt%3D000597
I found this site with posts Q&A with a Doc. I thought it might be helpful. The original Q&A doesn't say too much, but you could ask a more specific question about fusion.
myfootshop.com/Discussion/index.asp?http%3A//www.myfootshop.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dget_topic%3Bf%3D4%3Bt%3D000597
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Re fusion, there's at least one study that suggests that fusion yields a better outcome than traditional ORIF surgery...
ejbjs.org/cgi/content/full/88/11/2545:
... The patients who had been managed with a primary arthrodesis estimated that their postoperative level of activity was 92% of the preinjury level, whereas those in the open-reduction group estimated that their postoperative level was only 65% of the preoperative level, leading the authors to conclude that primary stable arthrodesis of the medial two or three rays yields a better short and intermediate-term outcome than does open reduction and internal fixation of ligamentous Lisfranc joint injuries....
Ly TV, Coetzee JC. Treatment of primarily ligamentous Lisfranc joint injuries: primary arthrodesis compared with open reduction and internal fixation. A prospective, randomized study.J Bone Joint Surg Am .2006; 88:514 -20.[Abstract/Free Full Text]
ejbjs.org/cgi/content/full/88/11/2545:
... The patients who had been managed with a primary arthrodesis estimated that their postoperative level of activity was 92% of the preinjury level, whereas those in the open-reduction group estimated that their postoperative level was only 65% of the preoperative level, leading the authors to conclude that primary stable arthrodesis of the medial two or three rays yields a better short and intermediate-term outcome than does open reduction and internal fixation of ligamentous Lisfranc joint injuries....
Ly TV, Coetzee JC. Treatment of primarily ligamentous Lisfranc joint injuries: primary arthrodesis compared with open reduction and internal fixation. A prospective, randomized study.J Bone Joint Surg Am .2006; 88:514 -20.[Abstract/Free Full Text]
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Thought I'd post an update since its been awhile. I'm now 5 weeks post op and things are going pretty well. I'm still experiencing some swelling if I leave my foot down for long periods, but the pain isn't bad. I had my stitches out at 2 weeks post op and have been in a walking boot (no weight though). In another 4 weeks I'll have my 3 screws removed again begin PT after the incision heals.
For those are curious what their foot will look like post op, heres a link to a photo of mine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/patmcd/random%20stuff/surgery.jpg
For those are curious what their foot will look like post op, heres a link to a photo of mine. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/patmcd/random%20stuff/surgery.jpg
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Hey anyone have any suggestions on types of shoes to wear post op. After 4 months I'm finally full weight bearing but none of my shoes fit! I have been wearing my husbands hiking boots which offers some support but maybe there is something out there that is better and more fashionable. (I shouldn't complain I'm finally in a shoe!)
Also, any advice on supplements like for joint relief? My doctor told me to take tylenol for pain or the prescription stuff. Actually I hate taking medicine so I stick with the tylenol at night for pain (which is better than I expected). But I was thinking why not take advil for the swelling-he gave me a long complex reason-something that interfears with the healing process and ligaments blah blah blah.
Also, any advice on supplements like for joint relief? My doctor told me to take tylenol for pain or the prescription stuff. Actually I hate taking medicine so I stick with the tylenol at night for pain (which is better than I expected). But I was thinking why not take advil for the swelling-he gave me a long complex reason-something that interfears with the healing process and ligaments blah blah blah.
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Dear Guest,
Referring to your old injury from windsurfing. My doctor told me lis-franc has a tendency to get arthritis in the joint. It could happen at any time-from 1 year to forever or never at all. It would than require fusing.
Maybe the pain is something that could be remedied with physical therapy. Good Luck.
Referring to your old injury from windsurfing. My doctor told me lis-franc has a tendency to get arthritis in the joint. It could happen at any time-from 1 year to forever or never at all. It would than require fusing.
Maybe the pain is something that could be remedied with physical therapy. Good Luck.
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