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Okay, so, I'd like to state I have OCD, so I obsess about A LOT. Anyway, a little bit back I masturbated and some got on the seat...so now I'm thinking "what if my mom sits there", now masturbation and incest are both sins in the Bible. So, this happened once before and I decided to do it again...but this time I tried to make it cleaner. So, now I'm thinking that I did something wrong and am going to Hell because the second time I knew what could happen but did it anyway I guess. This may be the Wrong section of these forums and it may be a bit detailed. But, im stressing over it pretty bad I guess. :(

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Hi,

I am so sorry that you are plagued by these thoughts. OCD is a very unpleasant thing to have. 

I suggest you look on the internet for "is masturbation a sin?", and you will find that there are many people who do not believe the Bible condemns masturbation. This is just our modern interpretation (with modern being used in the broad sense, at least since the 18th century when medical doctors started taking an interest in masturbation). 

In addition, let me assure you that while what you describe is a bit gross, it is not incest. None of that touches her. But next time, masturbate somewhere where nobody will come in contact with potential fluids, like in the bathroom and then clean it with bleach. 

I hope you can get help for your OCD.

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hi there, I'm just going to suggest keeping a towel or something handy next time. Don't worry, I don't think you will go to hell, you can always ask for forgiveness.
and if it makes you feel any better, you just brightened my day, thank you! 
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Not to mention I also touched the toilet paper and stuff.
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Rhyder is me as well.
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Everything in the bible and in church is based solely on the choice if you choose to believe it or not. I have the same thoughts as Lynxika. You probably wont go to hell but if you do, I will see you down there.

Incest is classified as (in my own words) sexual contact with another family member. This can include oral, anal, or vaginal. Unless you are having sex with your mom, her touching your cum (weather she knows about it or not) is in no way incest. You may have OCD but don't let this little slip bother you.

You should be able to clean it with a hot water and a cloth.

Also, for future reference, when you do masturbate again, try it in the shower or while on the toilet. It makes for easy cleanup. You can also hold a tissue or toilet paper on your penis before you orgasm to catch everything. Then again you can also masturbate in a lead lined room. Then God won't see it. The most he has is X-Ray vision and that can't penetrate lead.

These forums are here for that very reason. So you can ask questions and get answers as long as you are not perching about the about the sins and all of that c**p.

Good Luck
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It seems to me that it would be pretty difficult to make a case against incest based on the Bible. Don't they want us to believe in Adam & Eve? Just who did their offspring mate with? Oh yeah ---- weren't they both males?  

Incest varies a lot depending on where you live. There is no really good scientific case against it. The chances of passing on some undesirable traits are slightly higher but not much more than the probability of other things that happen randomly.

I think incest is mainly insulting to our senses so we make it illegal. However the legal definition varies widely. In many places cousins are not off limits and there is hardly any scientific reason they should be.

Isn't the Bible simply the written opinions of the men who wrote each book? If you can find anything that was written by God Himself or by Jesus in His own handwriting, you would have the greatest treasure on earth.

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I'll take care of the religion part of this. God doesn't make mistakes, alright. So if he REALLY didn't want us to masterbate, he would've made sure to make our arms smaller and give us a way to auto-clean up when we go to the bathroom. Keep in your head that the bible was written by MEN (humans) who are NOT God. Keep in mind as well that it was a traslation of the Hebrew version to the latin version and now to the english. Words mean something different each time and it's easy to make a mistake in the translation. Don't EVER forget that God forgives, if he forgives, you don't need to ask him, he will forgive you automatically. I don't think there is a Hell because if it was real... it would go against everything we were taught about a forgiving God and make him a vengeful one. Don't worry about any of this.

For the cleanliness, your mom will not even NOTICE if you made a mess, she won't even figure out what happened. Next time, just grab a towel of toilet paper in advance, do it in the shower and so on so it won't make a mess. :)

I hope this helps!!
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I'm with you Kim. I believe in a loving God. I can't believe he gave us all the exquisite pleasures of sex and masturbation so He could say don't do it. How mean would that be? That seems to be the brain child of some very up tight, frustrated, men and women from previous generations.

How about women being taught that sex was something they were supposed to put up with as a duty to their husbands? Can you even imagine how that set back the idea of marital pleasure? That told men they were only supposed to do it for their own pleasure and their wife didn't need to get any pleasure out of it. So both sides believed that? Marriage must have been awful back then. Sex was just jerking off inside her body, then it's over? I can't even imagine what it would be like if I couldn't have the enjoyment of seeing the pleasure I'm able to give my wife.

Some years ago circumcision was the recommended cure for masturbation. Apparently thought up by some very sadistic people. I wonder what they did to a girl who was found to have discovered masturbation? I guess they did the same thing to them too. They would unhood the clitoris. That must have backfired on them. Personally I can't think of anything that could have made me want to masturbate more when I was a teen, than having my glans exposed so it would be getting constantly rubbed. I bet it would do the same for a girl. I think I would have masturbated all day long, until it became desensitized. By then I would have become an expert --- a Master-Baiter? Reminds me of an episode of Married With Children where poor Al went in for an operation, marked to have a "circular incision" and came home with his foreskin missing. The whole family was making fun of his resulting permanent erection due to his exposed glans being constantly rubbed.

As for cleaning up the mess, all you need to do is put a sock on it. Unless you have athlete's foot. I wonder what athlete's penis would be like? I can imagine the itching!!!! Would you want to use sandpaper mittens to masturbate then?XD

Hey I hit "enter" before adding the smiley and it worked.

 

 

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HAHAHAHA!!! Awesome!!! But for the circumcision its not exactly that. They circumcise boys so it's waaaayyyy cleaner, no need to pull back the skin or anything :) For girls... well it's a bit more horrible, it still happens to this day where they would cut off the clitoris, sow the inner lips closed except for a hole for periods and sow the big lips shut as well except for a hole for peeing and periods... having sex is excruciating to those girls... :(
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By some accounts circumcision started in this country as a way to prevent masturbation, then they began promoting cleanliness to justify it. They also cut the hood on females for the same reason but some doctors felt cutting off the tip of the clitoris was a more sure fire way to keep girls from masturbating. What a bunch of sadistic bassards!!!! They must not have understood the structure of the clitoris because you can still masturbate quite satisfactorily with the tip missing. Although it's much more fun to have one to play with and to love and adore.

My wife has no visible or feelable clitoris but I can still do her by rubbing where it should be hiding. I'm sure it's in there. But after a few years I discovered I was able to really give her a screaming orgasm by rubbing the sides of her vulva with the other two fingers while I am massaging her hidden clit with my middle finger. That was after I learned the clitoris is shaped like a tooth with the roots going down both sides. I experimented with that idea and got some super results.

 

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Hey people, religious debate where you all agree (and I probably would agree on most of it with you) is not fun at all :) All that you said is ok, but maybe not here - you completely forgot what this guy wrote about, in the first place.
It doesn't matter by which rules he thinks what he is doing is wrong and is afraid of punishment and hell, he is suffering because of the fear and guilt he is feeling - that is what his OCD is doing to him. And now you throw in stories of being punished by circumcision for masturbation when you clearly could have read that he thinks that even touching toilet paper is something to add to his guilt... I really didn't want to preach, but I felt sad for him because he is making his own personal hell (not without participation of people around him, but that is probably a different story) and it seems like no one is paying attention to that.

Jake/Rhyder, when you were diagnosed with OCD, did you get any treatment or therapy? And, how old are you? Thing is, some things you are obsessing about now might be just normal for that stage of your life - it might be hard to live through it day by day now, but it will pass eventually. And there is always some form of help - even if it is to open up and talk about what is going on, here.
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