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Im very glad you kept us updated. Even if any of us fall off recovery road or relaspe i still wana know about your journey. I tell you what this has been a long 3 months. Whew. But truthfully i didnt think i would ever get thru withdrawals.

The human body is something else. My only complaint is my rapud weight gain. Geeez i went from 116 to 140. Im very insecure but im learning to love my curves. I drank alcohol for the first time and many years..that didnt go so well. I drank to much and blacked out. Never had that happy...the hangover is horrible i drank sat and i still feel like sh#t. So i wont be doing that again. Ever.

I still take b6 and vitamins. Sleeping is good i dont wake up at 5 am no more i sleep til 7. Idk. I feel like i have no motivation at times but i know it will get better. To each of you trust your body and if you wana quit then try. I am more free now then i was before.
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Hi Snowbunny ,
I'm so glad to hear that your doing good :) I'm so proud and happy for you. I know it's been a long journey. And not a easy one.
I'm trying to taper off the meds my doctor put me on. I feel like he traded one for another. But there was really no other choice besides the hospital which I can't do cause of my kids. I really want this nightmare over with. I want to be where you are in recovery. I will get there at some point soon I hope.
Your all in my thoughts and prayers !
Sending my love ,
~ V~
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Hi Hanna ,
I need some advice ! If your still on here please let me know ?
~ V ~
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You can message me v. If she doesnt reply in time. Best wishes
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Everyone has to pay the piper there is no way around it. 2 year binge of 5 to 8 Norco’s a day. Stopped on a Sunday, was 5 days on Suboxone and then Subutex, then said f**k it. One week you feel way better, and the Subs did help, but any which way there will be withdrawals, Vicodin, heroin, Subs are all opiates. But a week on the subs made it way easier. The Doctor had a 90 day plan and I turned it into a five day plan, end the madness.

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I'm sorry I was on the subs for around 8 days
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That was the only way for me too, 8 days on Subutex, then I said forget it and quit that too. Same wothdrawls, didnt matter but I do think it was easier, I have been through this 3 times, keep up the good work!!!
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Guys, suboxone/subutex CAN help. There's a lot of factors at play, not just for heroin addicts. (I've been a heroin addict for many, many years. 150 mgs methadone daily for 10 of the last 11 years, today my methadone dose is at 16. I'm great, thanks for wondering :) We all need to be very careful when dispensing advice. IMO we should NEVER suggest this is how anyone else SHOULD do it. But simply let others who suffer know what has helped us. I once swore I would die before I went back on methadone... and I very nearly did. Twice. I may or may not have come through the darkness without it, IDK. There's as many different ways to become drug free long term, as there are addicts. Do I recommend methadone? Not really. Do I believe it's a viable method to become free of heroin or any other opioid? Absolutely.
I'm always so happy to hear of anyone who's beat the beast. Inspiring, and reassuring are the two words that come to mind.
Peace, and here's to LIFE!
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I'd be happy to hear from you as well, if you need someone to correspond with, or talk to.
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I too was on methadone..I was on it for 3 yrs and I wasn't even on tht high of a dose..50-70mgs per day..dependind on how much I wanted to take and belive me when I say u DO NOT want to get on dones! They destroyed my entire life. I wish I could sit down and have a talk with all the people tht say they wana get on methadone although I kno what I say won't matter to most bc once u have ur mind made up usually no one can talk u out of it..I have also been on subs for a long period of time and the sub WD wasn't sh*t compared to the methadone WD..I had to be admitted to a hospital when I I got to day 4 of detox bc I was going absolutely crazy! Kicking all over shaking crying shittin my self throwing up couldn't move screaming. It was the most horrific experience of my life..when I got to the hospital they put me to sleep for 3 days..my pulse was up to 169 when I got there and my blood pressure was super high too..id take sub withdrawal over methadone withdrawal any day! I really wish ppl would look into methadone before they get on it..its not sum amazing drug like ppl say it is, yes it gives u a crazy good high but the after affects r just not worth it! I'm now off of everything and have been for 4 months I went from dones to subs and then got off subs cold turkey n still the WD wasn't nothing compared to wht id went thru with dones..I cannot stress tht enough! And the best way to get off any drug is cold turkey..besides the viatims and what not..u should NOT use vics or trams to help WD symptoms ur only prolonging the entire thing, and thts just stupid plus u can't tell a narrcotic addict to use narrcotics for WD symptoms and then tell them to make sure they limit their use! Thts not smart..if we knew how to limit our use we wouldn't b here in the first place..but everything else u listed is good just not taking more addictive drugs..ur getting relief for a cpl hours bc ur puttin the drug back in ur system tht ur body is craving and thts a total set back..when u decide to get off narrcotics u need to be completely done with them..
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Hey everyone. I am still clean from drugs. I am working on losing all this weight i packed on. Well i was working on it until a couple of days ago i found out i am expecting. In seven years i havent got pregnant until now. Kinda ironic now my body is clean and healthy which im thankful for. Im going to be a mommy again! Im excited. Im over 100 days clean from subs and it feels good to free. I hope it works out for each of you. Getting clean is easy..staying clean is hard.
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I'm sorry to hear all of the miss fortunate stories out there, but it will get better. I've currently gone through withdrawals more times I could count from everything from pure heroin down to hydrocodone. I personally felt that the heroin withdrawals are probably the most severe but the suboxone was the longest. I didn't take any supplements besides your common multi-vitamin and maybe some fish oil. Eating is a must, even though your appetite is so severely diminished. It is a mofa to charge through withdrawals, but I've done it plenty of times without giving a hint of my symptoms or my dependency. The hardest part for me would be resisting that one last high. I found that lil herb I've always loved helped out quite a bit with the depression, and appetite. It is easy to get carried away with substituting one thing for another, but luckily mr. ganja is a natural occurring herb. It is much better than using benzos or other synthetic opiates, because the only withdrawals I've ever received from smoking were small mental hoops to jump through compared to agonizing opiate withdrawal. I believe one of the key aspects here is knowing that it get's better. I'm only on my second day after a heavy relapse, but dropping these dependencies(this everyday nagging feeling that you must get high or you feel lousy) would be the sanest decision I've ever made. It sucks not feeling normal, and trying to mask it. I know some of you can't tell a soul, but that emotional support from someone close goes a long way and really helped encourage me that I'm better than this.

Stay strong and live strong, there is nothing that could fill the gap of appreciating self accomplishment.

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Its very unusual to hear from such an organized person on one of these forums, but you definately seem to know what you are doing and you are successful at it. That is really something. I hope you will keep in touch and continue to do well. This addiction thing really just zaps a person's life completely. I guess if we knew what we were getting into we wouldn't have risked it for a brief time of feeling well and high. Take care, RR
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I am 159 days clean. I am so glad. Keep strong everyone!
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Hi thank you for your advice. I am also in same situation in UK I work and am addicted to subutex! I know need to get off due to the clinic saying Iv been on it long enough! Tramadol is this a OTC pill? I don't think I can buy this in UK I remember seeing them in Mexico. Are they codine based? I'm just thinking of a UK alternative
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