In order to get off of suboxone you need to taper down gradually. It will probably take more than 50 pills if you are taking 32 mg a day as you say you are.
Say you take 8mg a day, start your taper by taking only 6mg a day for a week. Then go to 4mg a day for a week, then 2mg for a week, then 1mg for a week, then half a mg for a week, then a 1/4mg for a week.
You will still feel some discomfort from withdrawls but you will be able to mask it by taking some advil. Most people don't know this but you can alleviate accute opiate withdrawl symptoms by taking an otc anti-diarreah medicine like Immodium AD. I've done this a few times when i've run out suboxone before my next appointment and it really helps. Just please please take it as directed, dont over do it with the Imodium because it's an anti-diarreah and you don't want to make yourself constipated and sick.
Most people taper off subxone over several months and even years, but it is possible to do it fairly quickly. The most important thing is to talk to your doctor about it and to make sure you are ready to be off it. Suboxone has it's downsides but hell, being addicted to pills or heroin is wayyy worse.
Say you take 8mg a day, start your taper by taking only 6mg a day for a week. Then go to 4mg a day for a week, then 2mg for a week, then 1mg for a week, then half a mg for a week, then a 1/4mg for a week.
You will still feel some discomfort from withdrawls but you will be able to mask it by taking some advil. Most people don't know this but you can alleviate accute opiate withdrawl symptoms by taking an otc anti-diarreah medicine like Immodium AD. I've done this a few times when i've run out suboxone before my next appointment and it really helps. Just please please take it as directed, dont over do it with the Imodium because it's an anti-diarreah and you don't want to make yourself constipated and sick.
Most people taper off subxone over several months and even years, but it is possible to do it fairly quickly. The most important thing is to talk to your doctor about it and to make sure you are ready to be off it. Suboxone has it's downsides but hell, being addicted to pills or heroin is wayyy worse.
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On the post of abusing Suboxon. Suboxone has a Ceiling effect. You can only get so high and that is it. Check out what a ceiling effect is and it will explain it better than i can. May God Bless you.
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To the post 32 mgs. That is way to much. Most people start out on 16 mgs max. I would talk to my Dr and tell him or her i wanted to taper off them. I dont want to scare you but the more you take and the longer you take Suboxone the harder it is to get off. May God Bless You and I hope you get off Suboxone.
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I have been on suboxone for 2 years. It saved my life. But i would like to know if there are any long term side affects.
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Suboxone is more toxic to the liver than methadone. Long term suboxone use do a lot more damage to the liver than does long term methadone use. Especially important as many of us have Hep-C and have to be careful about which drugs we take.
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I started suboxone on 24 mg per day. I cut down to 16mg per day in a month. I was using 400mg oxycontin before this. After a month, I cut down to 8mg, then during third month I was down to 4mg. After fourth month I cut down to 2mg and fifth month to 2mg every other day. then 1mg a day, then tried skipping days with the help of xanax. I eventually quit subox altogether, with the help of xanax, friends, and family. You need people around you that will keep you busy. Plus you need to do exercise, ex: running, basketball and tennis. I played a lot of basketball, that helps your body start producing its own opiates (endomorphines). So for a successful plan you need, family and friend support to keep you busy, a lot of exercise I mean exercise that will wipe you out (swimming is also good) and finally you need a sedative. I was taking up to 5 80mg oxys per day and became totally opiate free in 9 months. The hardest part is the psychological addiction. Your brain knows how good it feels to pop or snort those oxycontins so it doesn't forget it wants it, even though your not going through physical withdrawals, your brain is wanting to feel that again. But it takes the above regimen to overcome it. As the old saying goes, start living or start dying. It is vital that you include a vigorous exercise program with your suboxone treatment. Plus after using suboxone (10 minutes or so) brush your teeth, that way the drug wont stay and rot your teeth. this is my experience and I hope it helps others.
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I was on Methadone and no matter how hard I tried I always gave in on payday and went to score heroin (which is in abundance in the city I was living in) Anyway two years ago I decided that I had to leave the city or I'd never give up Heroin. So I found a job in a smaller isolated city and moved there. I went cold turkey off 35mg of methadone. The first two weeks were absolute hell! But my new job required not only police clearance but medical history and tax informatyion etc (the company had a supply contract with the local version of the CIA so background checks were intense) Knowing this I decided that I had to go cold turkey and I had 4 weeks to do it. So i went through hell- vomiting,diarrhea, insomnia,restless legs ,stomach cramps,irritabilty, night sweats,muscle pain and the list goes on! After 2 weeks the severe stuff ended and I was left with just the diarrhea and restless legs. This went on for another two weeks and then I had to go to work. Tghe diarrhea was so bad still it just wasn't practical to work so I half gave in and contaced a chemist I knew in my previous city and begged him to send me some suboxone to curb the diarrhea. So i started on a sliver (1mg or so) a day and straight away the diarrhea stopped and I was feeling better again. over the two years that followed my life became very complicated. There was a death in the family, My partner had a serious car accident, my partners father went to jail,I lost my job and had to find another (took 3 months) my brother got really sick and there was a war between my partners father and sister with us stuck right in the middle. So during all these stressful events I gradually went up and up and up in my suboxone dose. Now I am on 8mg a day but I did get upto 16mg a day. I have found it extremely hard to cut down. Its especially hard because my supply is illegal and I was managing my own dose (its hard not to have more when you got a practically unlimited supply at home) .I find that every time i decrease I get the sweats and irritabilty and restless legs so then I have more to counter the effects so I can work. In the past I once jumped off 8mg of suboxone. The withdrawals are far less severe than heroin but they seem to last as long as methadone withdrawals. I will say that you definately feel small reduct6ions in dose - much more than you do off methadone. I have now signed up for the proper suboxone program. My only motivation to do this was so I can leaglly take it on a holiday to asia and also because I feel the only way ill ever reduce and get off it is if I cut my illegal supply off and get it legally so that I can reduce on a real plan with the doctors aid. I have been on Heroin, Morphine, Methadone and Suboxone and at the end of the day if you cant cold turkey there IS NO QUICK FIX! we all know that most people can't cold turkey (ive tried and failed many times even after months clean. So getting on a program does help a lot of people to get their lives together. You have to try both methadone and Suboxone if you do because everyone is different and one may work for me but the other might work for you. Be patient though - it trakes time to do any drug maintenance treatment. Don't go in expecting you'll be drug free in 6 months. First you have to get clean off the illegal stuff.Then you have to get your life in order, only once you are stable on your program and you have been for many months(at least) should you even think about tapering off the program. I see so many people get on a program,get off heroin and then shortly after that they strat tapering down. In most of these people they taper down to a low dose and then start using heroin again to take off the edge they are feeling from the reduction BACK TO SQUARE ONE. So take your time. You can do it. But its a long road and you have to accept theres no easy and quick way. All things done and said you have to UNLEARN your drug habit. It can be done but bad habits are easier gained than lost.
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ive been on suboxone for about 5 years or more have tried getting of them many times and its my experence is that the withdrawls are way worse than herion or oxys .i regret going on them ,for any pepole trying to get off drugs do it the old fashiond way cold turky and be around famaly or freinds that dont use support is very important
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I have been on suboxone (24mg a day) for 12 months now. At first i got some headaches and some dizziness when standing really fast, but that went away after a couple weeks. Since then I have had no side affects other then feeling a little tired here and there, but i have a lot on my plate so... I love this stuff, it makes me feel great and gave me my life back. Also there are days where i take 3 like i said, and there are other days where i can go without one and feel fine. I know you guys are saying that they are expensive and your right they can be. however, i pay 50 dollars total per month for the Dr appointment and 90 pills. just like anything in life its all about will power. Just like any drug yeah its gonna be hard to come off of these things, whether you have been on them for a month or a year because they bring happiness in a dreary world. but if you want to do it you can. alot of you sound like to are trying to scare people away from these things, but i have had no problem out of them. no side effects...50 dollars a month total...can go a day or two without one and be fine....and they are untraceable in drug tests unless they are being tested for specifically. anyone out there who is not ready to come off of these, dont!!...wait til your ready...til you get tired of having to work your life around when to take them, til you get tired of having to come up with reasons why you cant talk because you have something in your mouth, til you just wanna be clean. if my doctor lets me i will be on these things for the rest of my life, whether its 1 or 3 i dont care....i love them.
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I don't know if your still interested in knowing this or if this forum is outdated, however, I figure it will help more to come from someone who's taken it for 3 years to help you out. Remember everyone's body react differently to a drug, but this is my 2 cents.
Side effect's list.
1. Your life becomes almost imaginary perfect compared to previous drug abuse while taking suboxone.
2. Gain weight, but not because of the medicine but the sudden pleasure from consuming food (kind like methadone does when u eat, but not exactly the same.
3. Your core of your body gets hotter and causes you to have hot flashes kind of like a women during her period. (This only happens ever so often and it goes away quickly, you can cheat your way out of it by sitting infront of air conditioner when it happens. (remember this could be non relative to a non diabetic type person taking the medicine.)
Excessive sweating more than normal probably something to do with body naturally trying to sweat the medicine out.
4. Eye sight is effected gives your vision a little blur effect but nothing noticeable at all.
5. Unlike any other drug you do not develop a physical dependency that grows as time goes on. For example if you start out taking 2 a day you will get the same effect from taking 2 a day forever physically (mentally you can convince yourself of anything), but you do grow chemically defendant on taking the drug, but not physically id say about 90% mentally.
6. You do get constipated from time to time, but if compared to methadone on a scale from 1-10 it would be like a 1.
7. headaches from taking to much during a period of time without lots of rest.
8. (MAIN SIDE EFFECT) Sleepy all the time, like literally sleeping never gets easier than on suboxone.
9. Allows you to be very productive and hold attention on task very well reminds me of taking a tiny dose of adderall
10. Increases blood pressure for sure. Not drastically but to the point of after long term use you will start to see spots relative to floaters identified by a eye doctor.
11. Increases heart rate and pulse.
12. If not taken sooner than an hour before sexual experience very hard time getting aroused.
13. I have severe allergies and it somehow effects the immune system because my allergies don't bother me when taking it.
14. Causes you to become agitated easier, (like a mini steroid use effect) lol that's a little overboard I don't know how to describe it but you get aggravated easier.
That's about all I can come up with, however, remember if your taking any form of medication this is better than anything else. I'm sure this has its side effects, but what doesn't? Also I know personally that this is safer and more reliable than any other pain medication and trust me I've taken them all in large quantities over long periods of time. So why start taking oxycontin when you will just build a tolerance over years and just increase your dose until it kills you, same with methadone) when you can just take suboxone and stay at the same tolerance forever?
Goodluck I hope this helps you, most of all I know the suboxone will!
Side effect's list.
1. Your life becomes almost imaginary perfect compared to previous drug abuse while taking suboxone.
2. Gain weight, but not because of the medicine but the sudden pleasure from consuming food (kind like methadone does when u eat, but not exactly the same.
3. Your core of your body gets hotter and causes you to have hot flashes kind of like a women during her period. (This only happens ever so often and it goes away quickly, you can cheat your way out of it by sitting infront of air conditioner when it happens. (remember this could be non relative to a non diabetic type person taking the medicine.)
Excessive sweating more than normal probably something to do with body naturally trying to sweat the medicine out.
4. Eye sight is effected gives your vision a little blur effect but nothing noticeable at all.
5. Unlike any other drug you do not develop a physical dependency that grows as time goes on. For example if you start out taking 2 a day you will get the same effect from taking 2 a day forever physically (mentally you can convince yourself of anything), but you do grow chemically defendant on taking the drug, but not physically id say about 90% mentally.
6. You do get constipated from time to time, but if compared to methadone on a scale from 1-10 it would be like a 1.
7. headaches from taking to much during a period of time without lots of rest.
8. (MAIN SIDE EFFECT) Sleepy all the time, like literally sleeping never gets easier than on suboxone.
9. Allows you to be very productive and hold attention on task very well reminds me of taking a tiny dose of adderall
10. Increases blood pressure for sure. Not drastically but to the point of after long term use you will start to see spots relative to floaters identified by a eye doctor.
11. Increases heart rate and pulse.
12. If not taken sooner than an hour before sexual experience very hard time getting aroused.
13. I have severe allergies and it somehow effects the immune system because my allergies don't bother me when taking it.
14. Causes you to become agitated easier, (like a mini steroid use effect) lol that's a little overboard I don't know how to describe it but you get aggravated easier.
That's about all I can come up with, however, remember if your taking any form of medication this is better than anything else. I'm sure this has its side effects, but what doesn't? Also I know personally that this is safer and more reliable than any other pain medication and trust me I've taken them all in large quantities over long periods of time. So why start taking oxycontin when you will just build a tolerance over years and just increase your dose until it kills you, same with methadone) when you can just take suboxone and stay at the same tolerance forever?
Goodluck I hope this helps you, most of all I know the suboxone will!
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Don't give up! You will make it through with one foot in front of the other. Don't worry about one day at a time, take one moment at a time. As you succeed with each moment, you will find encouragement in that success and feel proud of yourself for the self control and determination that you are using in each moment. This gives you strength for the next moment and the moment after that. You can say to yourself, 'Look how far I have come' 'I know that I can continue with one foot in front of the other'. You can do this! I believe in you! One moment at a time!
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I am an opiate addict who has been on subs for 2years now. i tried weaning myself, all was good until one day all of a sudden i felt bad. went back to my normal 8mgs dose. I was on a grant, getting subs for free for 18mos. when it was time for my grant to be over, docs "tapered" me - but really it was just forcing me to stop cold turkey or self pay. i tried really hard to wean down b/c i cant afford to self pay. i failed. i succumbed to self pay. ive decided to do my own super slow weaning.
last month i told my doc about an idea i had to start a support group for addicts who are at least one year sober, are taking subs and either want to wean down or get off subs, and if possible find ppl who have successfully gotten off subs and how they are going on with their lives. my doc totally bashed this idea saying once an addict always an addict and basically was grouping us all together as minorities. obviously he has no clue. he said give me one non emotional reason to stop taking subs. what a jerk. you dont tell an addict she/he will fail. my reasons for wanting to be off subs are easy: im young and do not want to take a med for rest of my life, i want to move on without any monkey's, and most importantly the side effects that are not openly talked about( libido, constipation, etc.)
support is the key to sobriety. the more ppl you have to relate to, the easier getting through your probs. will be.
last month i told my doc about an idea i had to start a support group for addicts who are at least one year sober, are taking subs and either want to wean down or get off subs, and if possible find ppl who have successfully gotten off subs and how they are going on with their lives. my doc totally bashed this idea saying once an addict always an addict and basically was grouping us all together as minorities. obviously he has no clue. he said give me one non emotional reason to stop taking subs. what a jerk. you dont tell an addict she/he will fail. my reasons for wanting to be off subs are easy: im young and do not want to take a med for rest of my life, i want to move on without any monkey's, and most importantly the side effects that are not openly talked about( libido, constipation, etc.)
support is the key to sobriety. the more ppl you have to relate to, the easier getting through your probs. will be.
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I was on Suboxone for almost 1 year. trying to get off the pain killers. While on the prescribed dosage of suboxone you will feel great. I have slowly weened myself off the Suboxone over the last 4 months. I have not had any Suboxone for over 1 month. The side effects are horrible. I do not know if there is a way you can get yourself off this stuff without severe side effects. I have read some of the comments and can relate very well, restless and severely painful legs and irritability are the two worst. I think something needs to be done at the very least make sure that the Doctors that are licensed to give this medicine let there patients know of some of the more severe side effects before giving the medicine. I hope that someday these symptoms will stop or at least subside a bit so that this does not continue to dominate so much of my life. Its Ironic that the very thing (Suboxone) I started taking to hopefully help me get off the pain killers so I could live a better and fuller life is the very thing that is my misery right now. Thanks for listening. Katy
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I was on Suboxone for almost 1 year. trying to get off the pain killers. While on the prescribed dosage of suboxone you will feel great. I have slowly weened myself off the Suboxone over the last 4 months. I have not had any Suboxone for over 1 month. The side effects are horrible. I do not know if there is a way you can get yourself off this stuff without severe side effects. I have read some of the comments and can relate very well, restless and severely painful legs and irritability are the two worst. I think something needs to be done at the very least make sure that the Doctors that are licensed to give this medicine let there patients know of some of the more severe side effects before giving the medicine. I hope that someday these symptoms will stop or at least subside a bit so that this does not continue to dominate so much of my life. Its Ironic that the very thing (Suboxone) I started taking to hopefully help me get off the pain killers so I could live a better and fuller life is the very thing that is my misery right now. Thanks for listening. Katy
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Hi, my name is Nolan im from northern vermont, im not sure if people reply to this still but if u do please read. I have been on suboxone longer than anyone ive ever meet. Since Nov 20, 2006 yeah u read right 2006. Its a " wonder" drug at first but in the long run its not. It puts u in a rut a place u feel safe and comfortable. But then the side effects kick in. Im now 23 and this yeat alone ive peed blood and lost 4 teeth. I beleive and been told that this could be a result of long term suboxone use. It is not worth it. its just another addiction. well im using my phone to do this which takes to long. If u want to contact witj more questions ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** private e-mails not allowed **
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