Can't get off Suboxone

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I just started taking suboxone today. I had an awful addiction to opiates, I was prescribed 60 lortab 10's a month. At first I followed directions, then I ended up to where I was a few days ago... My 60 script would be gone in 4 days, then I would use OC's, Morphine, Percocet, ANY OPIATE! I had tried quitting befor, but by the end of the second day the withdrawals would be so bad that I would go out and find something..... It started to make me realize what I am doing to my body and life.. I am 22 yrs old and I am a GS12 for the government making 80-100k a year as a senior server administrator... I thought to myself WHAT AM I DOING TO MY LIFE!!! then I learned about suboxone.

They had me quit taking opiates on saturday, and come in on monday at 7AM. You have to be withdrawing to get suboxone, not because it wont work - more like you have to talk yourself into really quitting - if you can go through 2 days withdrawing so that you can get better, than you know you want to quit!

Monday they had me in their office trembling, pupils dialated, yawning, sweating and getting chills... they then told me to go downstairs to pharmacy and get 1 suboxone tablet... (8mg/2mg: my buddy told me that was a weak dose but I figured if I could start off small and handle it than I would be better off in the end) They broke that tablet in half and had me put 1/2 under my tongue to dissolve... I had to stay there 3 hours so that they could monitor me and see if it was working, it did work! Chills went through my body for 30minutes then I felt normal, and happy.

Basically I took the first 1/2 around 9AM, I just now took the other half (4:40PM) I feel good - I feel like a little kid again, and have a lot of self esteem and confidence - I will quit.

Thinking about how i spend 500-600$ a month on pills, paying for this treatment doesn't cost sh*t! I go back into the doctor tomorrow at 7AM to get a weeks worth hopefully (I cant be paying co-pay's everyday!) I am really going to do this like the doc tells me to, when he says quit, I quit.

Think about your body, your money - think about how much you spend and how you would be able to buy something rewarding without addiction.

I wish everyone here luck - and will keep you posted on my progress

----------THE ONE WITH HOPE

Basically you traded in one drug for another suboxone is maybe harder to get off of than the regular opiates. I would try and start tapering right away and then when you are down to a low enough dosage that you start feeling like you are already detoxing make the jump off of them.. The longer you are on them the harder it is to stop... I'm on day 3 now no sleep, rls and ras.. This is very hard to do..

Hi i've been wanting to get off sub for a while now, but just dunno how. Been trying to read up on it, but just cant find info to help me quit!!
My situation is this:
been opiate user since i was 16 (now 30yrs old), but for the past 4 yrs been on suboxone.
i've tried to get off the sub on a couple of occasions but just couldnt hack it. (after a week of hanging out, jumped back on the program)
first try was from 2mg dose daily to nothing (BAD IDEA)! My doc sucked @T@$%!! To tell me i'd be fine getting off!!
I've realised that jumping off the sub is ALOT harder than getting off opiates, but its a little late for that.
A mate of mine was telling me to stop the sub and jump back on the drugs for couple wks and detox off that, but i really dont want to go back to that. I'm married and i blew alot of my family's money and also my wife's money so i just want to get off the sub all together (without using opiates again). I work full-time and cant afford to take a month off whilst getting off the sub. Its a very physical job, so i know i cant just stop taking sub now!
I'm now on 1.5mg sub daily.

I need help please. Help from somebody who knows!! or who's been there before.
1. What dose is the best dose to quit from?
2. How long will I feel c**p for?
3. Is there something that would help me quit the sub but still let me go to work (tradesman)?

Yeah that is how I felt FIVE YEARS ago when I got on suboxone, you guys have to remember that suboxone only replaces another opiate, and its just as hard to get off of as any other drug. The only use for it is to stabalize your life, but if anyone has ever given you advice that you didn't listen to, now is not the time. GET OFF SUBOXONE AS SOON AS YOU CAN, IT BECOMES YOUR LIFE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER OPIATE. I COULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF IT WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR BUT MY DOCTOR TOLD ME TO WAIT. BS, GET OFF IT ASAP, AND ASK YOUR DOCTOR TO DO SO.

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i took suboxone for four years and was able to get off fairly easily...the first four days are clearly the worst because it is very hard to sleep...my doctor gave me zofran which is what pregnant chics take for morning sickness...totally helped with the nausea...the more water you drink and the more food you eat the better off and faster you will be back to norm...after 5 days you'll be completely happen with your decision to get off suboxone...zofran helps you have an appetite too...i felt like i had rls for the first week...my doctor also gave me florinal which is a mild sedative to sleep at night...doesn't really help during the first week but after that it does...i would take a bath for a half of an hour and would immediately dry off and lay down in order to fall asleep...you can do it though...its not as bad as withdrawals you prob previously faced its just the length of it that is bothersome...get the zofran immediately...

LISTEN EVERYONE...i was on oxys for over a yr and i got off them with subs this is how you get off the subs..ready ..here ya go first off the first few days of ur detox make sure you take plenty of sub like 16 or 24 mgs it will absolutely get rid of any mental withdrawal also,after that you want to taper down immediately to 8 mg a day for a week,then 6mg a week,then 4.stay on four for a few months thats what i did.next taper down to 2mg for a few weeks then 1 mg .OK SOO this is the tricky part...after 1mg taper to .5 mg then to .25 mg then to an eight of a mg,to the point where your only taking breadcrumb sized pieces or even dust.stay on the dust for at least 3 weeks and then every other day for a week and then jump off....i just did this with absolutely no withdrawal...i slept fine,ate fine,and felt fine other than some chills here and there ...its that easy...you must taper down to a extremely pathetically small amount and then jump...i read about alot of u assholes who jump off at 2 mg or even 1 mgs and your just f*****g stupid no wonder ur sick as hell, weed helps if thats ur gig ,so does exercise soooo please dont listen to these assholes cuz they are stupid U MUST TAPER TO AN EIGHT OF A MG A DAY AND STAY ON THAT FOR 2 TO 3 WEEKS AND THEN JUMP ............GOOD LUCK HIT ME BACK IF U WANT MORE DETAILS ........ohh and by the way i was on the subs for over a year and they did bring my life back,just  bought a house,great job,money in  the bank ,im in great shape,got a gorgoues gf sooo yea lifes good if i can f*****g do it anyone can

 I did it this way too, besides my legs feeling a little restless every now and then I sleep for 6-7 hrs when I do fall asleep. I think the biggest thing that helped me is when I started to get down to less than .25 mgs ( which is 1/8th of a 1/4th piece of an 8mg piece or strip) I started to work out hard and kept taking less and less and less until it got to the point I couldnt even see what I was taking anymore til I ran out. I made one 8 MG pill last me the last 4 1/2 months I was on it... so you do the math... I've only been completely off for 4 days and honestly I feel better now even than I did when I was still taking a little bit, I think I should've got off along time ago and was just too afraid. If your to the point where you want to get off suboxen then you should just f*****g balls up and do it. Feeling shitty for a week or two is nothing compared to living you life at the mercy of a piece of a pill. You couldn't f*****g pay me to do an opiate these days. 2 years clean of pills or dope, get you life back people it's more than could ever have wanted during your addictions.

Hi everyone!

This is how I am getting off suboxone and after all the reading I have done no one has tried this methiod (that I have found)

So no matter what dose your on, stop taking it for as long as possable, once you start feeling withdrawl take about 1/4 of your full dose, just enough to relieve the withdrawl feelings. its ok to feel super tired as a matter of fact sleep if you can. Then once again go as long as you can take it till you are in withdrawl then take a little suboxone to relieve your symptoms. (never take your full dose or your going backwards!)

Beleive it or not this works, after a few days you see a diffirence, and after a couple weeks you feel almost normal, and are only taking a tiny bit hours and hours apart. pretty soon (a month or so) you will be able to stop completly. Maybe a tiny withdrawl, but nothing like you would have went through if you didnt use this method!

Im calling this the Angelmethod lol cause thats my name.

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Yea Ive been on sub a little over a year myself. Im 24 yrs old about to b 25, and opiates were ruining my life. I had a 20a day percocet habit and eventually could no longer afford it so i went to dope/H. I did this for about a year and then discovered suboxone. I was amazed that i could take one of them and b fine for a whole day. That was Januaury 2011. its now feb. 2012 and iam so sick and tired of being dependant on this stuff. Im at around 8mg a day. half in the morning half in the evening. The worst part is i do not go to the doc for these, i get them off of a freind. and to make things even worse she is down to her last 3 and then no more she can no longer get them. Im aware i will have to jump from where im at. Ive withdrawd before and iam DReading coming off. Im most likely going to just do it and stick out the month of pure hell, to tell the truth i guess the only reason for me even typing this is to share my thoughts, because iam unfortunately one of those people who has noone for support because noone close to me even knows about my dilemma. If anyone does come across this post, just know its about will power, its about the thought of a pure life, the life u had before this garbage took over, that right there is a burning desire to me, i want to beat this so bad i can litterally taste it, its going to be hell for me point blank period, but i will do it, i will win and i will laugh one day and look back at how hard it was, but i will b able to say hey I DID IT!

Took .25 milligrams on the 13th, took .10 (if that) on the night of the 14th and now the evening is just starting to fall on the 15th and I have had no Suboxone. So far it is not that bad, yesterday was worse then today. Yesterday, my joints and legs hurt badly. I woke up and they still hurt, but that has went away. I did a very slow taper from 8 milligrams, been on this stuff for almost a year and a half. Been tapering for about 10 months.

I have been taking suboxone for 7 years now and cannot quit. I was shooting heroin and sniffing oxy's before this for about 4 years. Now that Im on subs I cant get off. Tried many times and just cant. I have also developed a horrible condition due to my addiciton. Apparently it's the subs that are causing it because every specialist I have seen in the past three years cant figure out anything. Even Johns Hopkins has me on a trial study where I am getting injections for a drug they are trying o get approved for the market. Im a guniea pig. But still no better. I suffer from CIU, which is also hives. They are extremely bad. To the point I am now bed ridden cause of them. I lost everything because of this affliction. My apt, my job, my vehicle, my insurance, no money AT ALL, my life pretty much. Unemployement wont help, medical assisstance denied me, and so did disability. This conditon is horrible. Huge hives cover me from head to toe everyday I wake up. Swollen hands, feet, eyes, lips, etc. I hate life. I have no life really. Just a bed and TV cause I cant do anything else. And my Mom and stepdad are sick of me not working even though they know the problem I am dealing with. Im 27 years old and would like to just die if the rest of my life is going to be like this. 3 years now and nothing has changed. Its the same everyday. And the doctors arent even the ones that suspected it was the suboxone, I had to figure it out. And its not even for sure. Not to mention I have had 4 kidney stones also. So yea......................life sucks something fierce and I just cant get off of them, even with this condition. You would think I could seeing as I break out in hives everyday but I cant. And I cant afford rehab. Costs WAY too much. There are no free clinics. That is a myth. Nobody really sees this as an addiction but it is. You can be addicted to suboxone, but because I am addicted to suboxone, the suboxone centers wont take me. And like I said I dont have insurance so centers wont take me. All I have is PAC and that doesnt cover anything. So.............what the HELL DO I DO!

Its a never ending cycle suboxone gets us off the methadone and other opiates and now you want to back on methadone to get off suboxone unfortunately alot of us think this way however it never works. Suboxone is much easier than methadone withdrawal and I have gotten off of it successfully by decreasing the amount daily until you are down to 2 mg a day than after 2 days cut that in half and wait as long as you can to take the half even if it gets a little uncomfortable stick it out as long as you can and continue cutting in half every 2 days and before you know it you will even forget about taking it. I would also suggest a sleeping pill for the first few after completely off subs. I was on subocone for 8 years and now completely off of it and before that 300-500mg of methadone for 24 years so it can be done with a little will power and minor discomfort.
Mike

I am the same guest who's post started out like 

what ever you do, take something for nausea,and take the requip, Gosh,i,ve had restless legs, restless arm,s,,,it will work, try it again,i promise relief, new to this site but a very concerned user and prisoner of suboxone,L.J.M.

I'm currently trying to get off Subs too. I'm tapering with my doctor, trying to take less each day. I have to get off these, I've been in this vicious cycle too long. Its the fear that holds me back,fear of withdraw ESP wanting to use. I haven't even wanted to for almost 2 years. I just need some advice. Also wondering how long subs stay in your system after getting off of them?