Fordyce On Lips Cure

how much did this procedure cost?

Hi all,I am about to create a new support website for people with Fordyce Spots ON THE LIPS only. I've been through almost every possible treatment. On this website I'll tell you what definetely doesn't work and what you just totally shouldn't go for and what I have hope might work. I will start developing the website tonight. I'll make a forum there and stuff too.Please have hope and pray for me cause I think I really know what's the matter.In two weeks I have a meeting with my new doctor that was suggested to me by other doctor. The reason he send me to another is becasue that guy is the best dermatologic surgeon in my city - if not only and we both think we know what's the reason, but the other guy my do it cause he has the best stuff for this precedure.I will come back here and tell you when the website is done. I am telling you this now not to scam you or give you false hope. I want you to have patience. This message is useful for me, cause I know I am not making this website for me but because I have made promise right now and I have to keep it. Don't do stupid stuff, like using needle, it'll get worse than you think. Seriously. Don't do other crazy stuff... (this goes to depressed and desperate people - you know what I'm talking about!!) Stay f*****g posivite guys, I know what this sh*t is, I am struggling with it for 2,5 years now. In two weeks I should finish the support website. You're not alone. It's just that you think that there's not many of us with that sh*t AROUND you, or even maybe in the whole world, that's why you think you look so different, but you would be surprised if you knew how many people have this c**p, even in your country. Just hang on people. In two weeks I will know more about the new procedure I am waiting for and I'll tell you the details.Have faith!

I have so much I need to say.

I have so much I need to say. Just seeing if my comments will go through

Okay now that I know my comments go through I wanna start by saying, im a 20 year old male, I've done sports my whole life, always active, I've smoked weed, smoked cigarettes, done the whole thing (currently don't smoke anymore, rarely) but I've noticed these dots on my lips maybe a month or two ago, they started off as very small but visible when I really looked in the mirror. I got paranoid like anyone else and looked on google to self diagnose myself, and came across fordyce spots. So I was pretty content in the idea that I had this condition. But either way went to the doctors and got checked for stds, came back negative for everything, so I assumed they were definitely fordyce spots. Til this day they've continually gotten worse. More visible, maybe its because I'm so self conscious about them but they definitely changed the texture and physical look of my top lip. When they were smaller and when I went to go get tested I had the doctor look at them, and she said its probably from just licking my lips too much and too just try lip balm, which I've been using. (Not for years, but maybe a few weeks) then when I noticed them becoming more dominant I went to go to the doctors again, she examined them more closely. She said she wanted to test me for herpes, which I thought they do in the std screening. But I guess they don't if you don't ask. But during the two weeks I waited for my follow up I bought abreva, as the doctor recommended, and used it everyday for about a week and a few days and didn't really do anything. When I came back for my follow up, she told me I tested positive for hsv 1, my heart dropped and I instantly became depressed, not knowing really what herpes was but that it was what everyone made fun of. (Did my research and found out that it is VERY common now a days for someone to have hsv 1, and im pretty sure I've contracted it from my childhood since I've had cold sores before I've even had sex or kissed.) she acted very casual as she told me I tested positive, and I didn't realize to I left. I acted like it was the end of my world, which I still kind of do feel like honestly, because that and these spots are really all I think about. But she prescribed me acyclovir and I started taking them yesterday. But the problem I have is they look exactly like fordyce spots and not a herpes outbreak, (the problem of google imaging herpes is it gives you the worst possible images and makes you teriffied) but all the pictures I've seen look like a blister or single sore, also from past experience, and these dots don't match with what a cold sore looks like. So I'm thinking its not a herpes outbreak at all, but just fordyce spots that are getting worse. But I'm taking the pills still in hopes that it works, highly doubt it though. But now I'm just depressed that I have the worst of both worlds. I've noticed I've become more and more antisocial, constantly looking away when someone talks to me, feeling uncomfortable when a friend or someone is sitting next to me. Constantly cringing my lips, so that you can't really see my lips. My whole attitude and the way I would carry myself every day has changed. I'm really sad that I may have to live like this forever. I always attract girls, but now I feel like I don't want to attract girls anymore for they will sooner or later notice them and think they worst (which I can't blame since I did test positive for hsv 1, which is hard enough on its own trying to get someone to understand) but now all I think about is if someone is looking or if someone is thinking anything about what it is. The only time I don't think about it is when I'm at wrestling practice. I just hate that my life literally changed.. I mean you guys could say (and I've read every single post) that its not a big deal just live your life and be happy and people probably don't even notice it, but that's just bull sh*t to make someone feel better. Not trying to ruin someone day or be a negative as****e but just speaking how I feel.the main thing is I notice it and when I speak to someone I know that they either look at the eyes or the lips and not everyone has the most unnoticeable ones so don't speak for people that do have it noticeably, but I just feel like its a horrible thing that's so damn small but it makes the biggest impact on my life. I pay attention to everyones lips now, I try to see if they have it as a justification for me having it. Most people do, but I then think thwy probably don't even realize they have it and think to wishing I never noticed I had them either. I tell myself to just get over it ans not give a fuk, but I realize I do give a fuk and its not that easy. Im just stuck with the problem that I can't tell people that they're fordyce spots when they can really just be a cause of me being hsv 1 positive. And that kills me, because idk. Does anyone else have the same problem?? Now ill begin on my thought process about what I think about fordyce spots. I think its BS how doctors will say its normal, and nothing to worry about. they have no idea. they have no idea how much of an impact it has on each and everyone of us. They don't know how much of a hassle and drag it is to deal with it everyday. It is everything but NORMAL!!! Like someone said in a previous comment a while ago, aids was unheard of until they founded it. I'm hoping that's not the case with these. In hoping it has no correlation with herpes simplex virus, and for that reason all I think about is how I can't kiss a girl in fear of that being a possibility. I would hate to burden them with this horrible skin condition. But I want to be happy!!!! I want to have a relationship, there's no way I could live without being happy with a girl. But I'm very self conscious and I know all I'd think about is knowing that she knows my lip has small white dots, and it just sucks. I'm just really mad, sad and f*****g mad that this happened to me.. if anyone has a similar experience or would like to further talk about my opinions please reply.

ATTENTION EVERYONE. GO TO A COSMETIC TATTOO SPECIALIST. I HAD THIS DONE. SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME AGO. DON'T THANK ME, JUST DO IT. ENOUGH SAID.

 

Can you expand more about it please? What is this lips tatto? does it hurt? How long does it last for? Cost?
How does it look like?

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Ryan, I feel you, I've been there and I totally understand. It seems the condition is slowly surfacing among the crowd:This might be a bias as I am now more focused on people's lips, but I see it a lot more.

Here is my current list of celebrities that might have such condition:

- Olga kurylenko - "Oblivion"

- Mélanie Laurent - "Now You See Me"

- Brad Pitt - "World War Z"

- Khloe Kardashian (latest tabloid pictures)

- Emilia Clarke / Daeneris ("without make-up" pictures)

I've noticed a lot of Jojoba folks trying to push Jojoba oil under pseudos, I would advise people to take all treatments with a grain of salt, as you'll see the recurring posters go through treatments and debunking them (ex: Kobe).  However I would encourage you to create a profile so healthcare professionals can get in touch with you if research is made in that area / so other members can contact you via PMs. I invite any healthcare practitioner to get in touch with me via PM if they desire to explore this further (am in the LA area).

I have tried everything and I'd say that if you're going through a rough rough patch, do a ACV peel. If it doesn't really peel, use fine sandpaper briefly, it will help have the vinegar go through. You'll peel over next 8 days and you will see your old lips back for a few weeks which will provide you with a nice sanity break if you're all gloom. the spots come back within a month or so, if smaller. The same results/timeframe was observed after going through a PDT treatment. I am currently putting Protopic 0.25% on my lips nightly for the past two months and it either has provided some relief or I have gotten used to it (It's been 2 years since I saw it creep over my lips.)

Qs for you all old timers about extra symptoms:

-Does it itch for you? For me the surrounding skin gets itchy, as though the glands located outward were irritated.

-I've started rubbing my eyes a lot more because it itched around my eyes under eyebrow/by the nose bridge- and seeing the skin texture become more textured from previously smooth look (looking like plenty of super small lumps)

-I feel as though my lip is no longer hydrated and constantly dry now. How about you? does it "stick" together too?

 

On a brighter note: I met a girl, told her about my fear of passing it on and how I was obsessing too much about it and me seeing multiple docs (4 ENTS / 3 Derms / 2 GPs) and talked it through. I told her I think it might be something else, and she says I need to get beyond that and that it is barely noticeable to her and her sister has it as well. So it is possible to tell others what you fear and have them accept it, and try to help you move on from there :)

Sup everyone. Im still here reading every post, Gosh ive been on this thread for years and still no cure *sigh* Atleast people are talking and suggesting new methods to getting rid of these bastards. We are all in this together, so keep the comments comming. I feel the pain and embarrassment everyones going through trust me. It sucks and what i do is just push it to the back of my mind and go about my day. Lucky for me no one has made me feel uncomfortable and self concious about them so it makes the day easier. Oh and dont look at any mirrors as much as possible! Doing that will just drive you nuts. @ 1 Wish Do you have any b4 and after pics? Im really curious about this. Cosmetic tattoo might be the only option for me. Im to chicken to get c02 lasered up, plus i cant afford to miss work. But mainly its cus im too chicken lol. Has ayone else tried this c02 method. From what i remember off the top of my head is only 1 person has had success. @ haddster my lips dont itch at all but they do feel dry. If i go a couple hours without chapstick my lips get really dry and jus looks awful. My girl is noticing it now and said it got worse, Frankly i dont know why she is still with me. For me personally im 99.9% sure its from being in the sun on hot days without any lip balm or any water. My theory is the lips get dehydrated and the oil glands wake up and start secreting oil to try to moisturize the lips.

Sup everyone. Im still here reading every post, Gosh ive been on this thread for years and still no cure *sigh* Atleast people are talking and suggesting new methods to getting rid of these bastards. We are all in this together, so keep the comments comming. I feel the pain and embarrassment everyones going through trust me. It sucks and what i do is just push it to the back of my mind and go about my day. Lucky for me no one has made me feel uncomfortable and self concious about them so it makes the day easier. Oh and dont look at any mirrors as much as possible! Doing that will just drive you nuts.

@ 1 Wish Do you have any b4 and after pics? Im really curious about this. Cosmetic tattoo might be the only option for me. Im to chicken to get c02 lasered up, plus i cant afford to miss work. But mainly its cus im too chicken lol. Has ayone else tried this c02 method. From what i remember off the top of my head is only 1 person has had success.

@ haddster my lips dont itch at all but they do feel dry. If i go a couple hours without chapstick my lips get really dry and jus looks awful. My girl is noticing it now and said it got worse, Frankly i dont know why she is still with me. For me

personally im 99.9% sure its from being in the sun on hot days without any lip balm or any water. My theory is the lips get dehydrated and the oil glands wake up and start secreting oil to try to moisturize the lips.
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Ok Everyone, so unfortunately, the spots came back about 2 weeks after I had the cosmetic tattoo done. I guess the added pigment can't really stay in the oil glands permanently. I have heard that in order to get the desired look, you have to get this done several times. But there is not guarantee. I have tried tazorac, the hyfrecator and now the cosmetic tattoo. I am seriously so pissed off that we can fly a man to the moon, but we can't figure out how to cure fordyce spots.

 

hey guys

 

ive been reading this thread cover to cover over the past few weeks since i really started noticing the white spots on my lips.. went over some older photos of me too and behold, the spots where there 3 years ago too. altough not as bad.. i just recently noticed em when i looked to closely into the mirror. man i wish i never did that... haha. anyways, im sure you all know how i feel so enough with the self pity..

my spots are not so "announced", theyre mostly visible because theres so many of em, deeper down, creating this white band over my upper lip.

i went to see a dermatologist/plastic surgeon and he looked at em, told me what it was, also recommended not doing anything about em, but i insisted.. so we tried the co2 laser on the most visible spot. He ended up lasering about 1cm x 5mms (sorry americans but im sure you can figure the metric system out) and he did 3 passes. first off he injected local anestethic by needle, then three passes. i do not know what spot size or power he did em on, but he told me he had done it before with various results. mostly he'd treated the more protruing dots and to quite some success in doing so.

a few hours after the surgery i started freaking out, because it looked like he went way too deep and created a little "crater" in my lip.. never having done any procedure like this before, and stupid as i was i didnt ask what it would look like (we only talked about scarring and heal-time) but i'm trying to tell myself that this crater will heal and that there is no other way for it to look after a procedure like that. after all the laser does remove tissue, so it would seem strange if you could remove something inside your lip without removing some actual part of the lip too. right?

 im putting on anti bacterial ointment couple times daily and its been 3 full days now. day 2 started to form quite a sturdy crust over it, i guess thats what people are calling scabs and i try not to touch it at all.. but its hard. i honestly cant imagine doing this to your hole lip at once. if he would go this deep all over my lip, creating such crusts. i would be screwed. seriously, it would be really hard eating, brushing teeth or even talking too much with a crust you dont want to crack all over your lip..

 

ill keep you guys posted. im gonna register an account here too so i can upload before and after pics..

fingers crossed this damn procedure didnt create a big dent smack middle on my lip.. that would suck worse than these damn spots. but having this wound/dent/crust next to my spots on the lips kinda makes me realize things could be much worse than this white discoloration on my upper lip.. it actually kinda makes me look at the white spots and not give a f**k as long as this heals..

 

sorry for any misspelling, english is not my first language.

 

oh yeah. the test run with the consultation ran me about $250 american, done in sweden on a private laser clinic. the full lip would probably go about 5-700ish..

 

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Hey guys. Try lip tints/stains to hide those spots. Been using Lip Ink. It works :)

Hi guys,

I've been reading your posts all the afternoon long! I'm really depressed because of my lips.Why none of you talked about the Anti-sebum cream?Would you suggest it? Someone tried it?

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Hey guys I'm 20 yrs old my birthday is in two says these white small spots are taring me apart I also thought of suicide but never tried to I would almost cry every night about it Nd be mad of the fact they appeared no one can see them not even my mom she thinks I'm going nuts but when I stretch my lips that's the only time u can see them theyre very small but its loosing myself confidence I don't focus on school nd feel like if the world is out to get me I pray to god so they can Igo away nd no hope doctors tell me forget about it it goes aWays I respond to them easy for u to say u don't have any they say live ur life nd don't use make up I go to the pharmacy everyday nd all o get is don't use makeup for a while or live ur life but only one recommended me to gargole hydrogen with peroxide I havent done it cause I'm scared of the cause I've set so many appointments but same Answer its ruining my future life can anyone help please