you know it is really discouraging that on a site like this you can get no response for 3 weeks. for anyone out there who does read this i stopped taking the subs at 7mg. waited till i started to feel withdrawals and started the percs. for the first week i had to take around 70mg a day to stay comfortable. the second week i started to taper down 5mg every day. the third week i took 10mg a day and by day 17 stopped and took some tramadol for a coupel of days. i have now been off everything for 3 days and am fine. so stoked that i didnt have to take the suboxone again. i really do believe that your attitude has alot to do with it. if your expecting the worst your much more likely to get it. i just kept repeating over and over to myself "this isn't going to be that bad,i'm going to be fine" and it was. not that bad at all. good luck out there to everyone. you can do it.