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I was taking 2 to 3, 8mgs subs for 2 years and I quit last week. Of course though, I had to because I was actually never prescribed them and I was arrested with 7 of them in a cigarette pack. Anyways, the point is that I just got bailed out of jail yesturday and I am court mandated now to drug test this comming week and until case is settled. So point is that I have quit these things and I never tappered off them. I will be on day 7 tomorrow. The funny part of this is that I have tried to do this before but never made it past 3 or 4 days but of course I wasnt court mandated to be clean. The symptoms come and go. I will be wicked sick for like half hour and just keep telling myslelf that it will end and be over and better in few minutes. So I just sit and wait and close my eyes and consentrate on the pain and keep telling my body to remove the pain and the drug. IT f*****g WORKS NO JOKE but you have to have serious will power and want to change. Trust me I never tappered I honestly was taking up to 24mgs a day and spent the whole week in jail (ohh also locked in the f*****g gang unit---middleton jail unit 120-B no joke there man... sh*t I was wd all week in a god dam cell with CO's banging on the door telling me to do a head count. Anyways, these symptoms come and go but god dam when they come some times they come sooooooo strong like when I started typing this I was seriously f*****g like river dancing in my seat--no joke but now I feel better and i am smoking a butt. IF you put your mind to it you will get through it your mind is more powerful than you even know you have the ability to make yourself do this. Its all in your head and that is the truth. The last time I tried to do this I made it 3 days and I failed because I didnt concentrate and stay focused, also every day I woke up I wouldnt just get up take a shower and go out and socialize, i would just stay in and f*****g sob and act like I was a place mat or some sh*t. Dont listen to anything that people say about it lasting 6 months just know that you will have breaks in the symptoms after 5 days that last longer and longer with every day that goes bye. You will also start to feel happy again now and then as you start to wake up and realize you have been in a fog for the duration of your journey with these wonderful things---lol. Na but seriously I woke up today and felt a little sick at first then it went away completely and I felt so normal so I took a shower and went for a walk in the sun. I honestly wouldnt take any other drugs to help because that is only giving in to addiction and eventually it will lead you back to your drug of choice or just to taking subs again. Dont be weak be strong your mind is so powerful and when you start to get the breaks in the wds you will start to feel like you are winning and from there its down hill trust me I wouldnt write this if I wasnt the best test pilot. I have never know anybody who had it as bad as me I dont even have a doctor and never tappered even slightly, I had an addiction to oc for about year and one day I just decided I was going to start taking subs instead. I have like 5 friends that do dope and they sell thier scripts for cheap so they can get dope, and i would piss for them in exchange for the subs, anyways point is that even the doctor is an enabler if they agree to keep prescribing drugs to you knowing that your an addict. clear your mind and in turn it will clear your system-- no joke. and remember my fav quote that I made up myslelf -- we all posses the keys to success but few find the doors to which they belong--apm
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i don't know how old this post is but METHADONE has a +50 year proven record. Suboxone (name brand) is like 10 years old. I just remember when I was rehab the pregnant girl got methadone.....and EVERYONE else got suboxone. So I'm no medical professional but go with the methadone.....just tell ur doc. it's not just your life it's the baby too.....

not to mention they'll probably give the baby an opium tincture (once it's born of course) if withdrawal symptoms are noticeable or if the baby is stressed and then ween the baby off the opium tincture. As far as I know this is how they do it....or at least how they used to do it. IMHO go with the drug with the established track record.
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I am on Day 13 and I feel great - a good portion of the time. I sitll have my moments where I feel temperature fluxuations, depression or insomnia (even on 2mg Kpins I woke up at 3AM last night), but most of the time, I actually feel good. When I go out into the world, sometimes I feel like I'm on acid. I think this is because I've been dulled down for so long. Everything looks bright loud & scary, but I adjust. I was on suboxone for 4.5 years, starting from 24mg and weened down to .5mg before I jumped. Before that I was on "any and all" opiate addict doing 240mg+ of Oxy every day along with hdryos, junk, whatever. I wanted to post now that I've made it through. The first 10 days were hell for me and I had wished I had detoxed off something else. I didnt' think I would make it, but I did and I wanted to share this because I almost slipped back (many times) because of all the negative feedback I had heard. The things that helped me recover the most were music, exercise (as soon as I could), sex, sleep aids, 5htp and L-Tyrosine. Let's face it, getting your natural endorphins going is the best thing for recovery. Now, weening off the sleep meds is gonna be a pain. I'm not sure how that's going to happen, but I've been cycling through Ambien, Kpins and Xanax. Good Luck! I hope I keep going... I feel like I don't even know the world anymore, but the more I go out, the more it helps.
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The wirthdrawl symptoms are pretty killer. Im glad you have made it this far. If you know anyone who still needs help getting off methadone, Heroin, opiates or suboxone which is just replacement therapy please look into Ibogaine.

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Hey, I started on 16mg's of Suboxone back in October of 2007 and decreased my dosage very gradually to 8mg's per day where I stayed at from 2008 until Jan. 2010. I had the unfortunate experience of ending up in jail in Feb. of 2010 where they give you ibuprofen to come off opiates...anyway the first two or three days weren't too bad but then it hit me, literally, like a ton of bricks. The shivers, chills, hot and cold flashes, the goosebumps, runny nose, watery eyes...then the worst of it, the paralyzing anxiety and paranoia, the depresion and then at night, the insomnia, the pain in my legs, the cramps in my stomach. It lasted almost 40 days total before I felt any real relief. I'm a different , untypical case though, having been on the stuff for 3 years total and then kicking cold turkey. I will say that this stuff is the devil. It's just as bad as heroin or any other opiate, maybe worse. It always gave me a pleasant euphoria that was different from heroin or other opiates but was still very nice. And it lasted a long time which was a bonus. If I felt depressed, I would pop a Sub and feel like I was superman all of a sudden, it has instantaneous anti-depressant effects like no other! Recently out of jail and clean I got back into crack cocaine and heroin and then back on suboxone right away. The 1st use was heavenly, but now I'm right back where I was before I went to jail and I'm trying now to kick suboxone with xanax bars and heroin...which is difficult as coming up with 3 or 4 bags of dope a day is much tougher than shelling out 5 bucks on the street for an 8mg suboxone. But I would rather have the heroin withdrawal any day than the suboxone withdrawal and I know that soon I will have to kick everything (I was just found guilty on trial and am facing almost definite jail time in a month). I have 30 days now to come off everything as best I can so that I don't have to go through hell in jail again-which is what I definitely don't want but I don't know if I have the willpower to do it. This stuff is the devil..suboxone...methadone...just kick the dope cold turkey with some xanax or valium like Renton did in Trainspotting and be done with it. That's the best idea. That's the best way. Forget these mainienence drugs! :$
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Hey, I am 39 days clean off of Suboxone and just wanted to give my 2 cents. I have been on Subs for the better part of 3 years. Before that, it was any opiate I could get my hands on. I have gone a few days here or there, when I couldn't find or afford them, but kept relapsing. On day 39 I feel great, but being unemployed and not having much to occupy my days makes it a little harder. I am not tempted at all to use and know that I am very different then I was on day 1. There is no way around it, withdrawal is withdrawal. The worst is prob day 2 to day 6. After a week, you feel better, but a lot of it is your mind getting energized again and telling your body that you feel better than you really do. On day 8, I had a family wedding to go to. Honestly, all I wanted to do was just lay down all day, but I managed to get through it and had a good time, because I was just on this natural high.

Don't overdue it, but enjoy telling yourself how proud you are. Those goosebumps you get when you tell yourself "I've made it one week", "two weeks", etc. can give you energy to do something productive or get through something you know you don't want to do.

As for withdrawal tips, the only things I found that helped were baths (take LOTS of baths), pot, and water. My worst symptom was RLS. Yes, it is the worst, but it will go away. As much as every symptom sucks, just know that they all go away. The 2 weeks or so of withdrawals (or whatever it is) is worth the rest of your life. It is such an amazing feeling to use your mind and body the way you want to, when you want to. If I am tired, I can psych myself up and get through whatever; if I am depressed, I can think myself through it and be happy. I highly recommend reading "Peaks and Valleys" by Dr. Spencer Johnson. I read that about 2 weeks into WD and it really helped me. I'm not much of a reader, but this book is what allowed me to start making moves. In the beginning, the priority is getting through physical withdrawals, but eventually you have to start rebuilding your mind. If you don't think differently, you will not act differently. To anyone that is looking to get off or is in the first cpl days of WD, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get clean and keep going. You will look back and thank yourself for dealing with this now instead of later. For people who have been on this shiz long enough to forget what life was like without it, life gets so exciting when you re-realize what its like to live.

Listen to good, happy, inspiring music. Listen to cheesy 80s or 90s pop songs. As a musician, music really helped me. I remember in the first week of WD, I listened to the song "Kandi" by One Eskimo on repeat all day. Can't really relate to the song, but the music made me really happy. "Lovely One" by MJ did the same thing. Listen to Brubeck. Listen to Phish. Listen to anything that makes you a little happier. It has a strong effect.
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Im in the process of weening myself off of taking 4 a day now for about 2 1/2 years..I haven't felt much of a difference yet in taking half as much as i've taken since I started on them..Im going on day 7 now and planning on cutting that in half too..I would try to do it slow if you can...That way your body can adjust to the change.
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I was a fool with my suboxone. Let me tell you how it started. I checked into in-patient rehab after 5 previous failures at out patient facilities, and countless relapses with a heroin and fetanyl patch addiction. I would smoke the gell from 1-2 fetanyl 100 mcg patches a day andor do up to 100 dollars of heroin a day up my nose, and the law caught up to me after the addiction starting from a prescription of hydrocodone for wisdom teeth removal at age 16. I am now 21, and 3 days clean from being put on 8 mg a day of suboxone for 6 and a half months, I weened myself down to 4 mg a day for awhile, but then for some reason I decided to start snorting them... I quickly went back up to 8 mg a day and sometimes more, and would trade them for xanax. Little did I know my suboxone was almost out, since my mother would give me them, and sometimes id be able to steal them. I ran out of refills very quickly, I had enough to last me at least another 2 months, and I feel worse than when I was dope sick in jail before going into in patient rehab and getting put on suboxone. I really hope this is a week of hell and not a month, or I will be right back on the street within another 2 weeks without a doubt. I never used opiates for the purpouse of the nodding out high effect, I use it because it is the only med or drug that diminishes my social anxiety so well that ive never been as talkative without them my entire life, to the point where, I am almost afraid to leave my house without taking opiates. I have been on numerous anti anxiety meds, and Id be better off taking aspirin for anxiety than all the trash the doc put me on. I dont know what to say, but I have basicly been in one spot for the past 48 hours, and borderline insane, but faaaar too sore to do anything crazy or stupid. I just wish I could get tranquilized for 2 weeks and just wake up feeling like I did when I was in middle school...
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I feel like the words that I just read are words that I wrote myself...Minus the fetanyl and heroin..For me it was percocet and lortabs.But im taking up to 5 8mg suboxone a day
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My gf has been using suboxone for two years b/c she was going through roxycontin and percocet withdrawals. She decided that she wanted to stop taking suboxone and has been off of it for two weeks. She slipped up and took opana for the past couple of days. Will taking the opana send her back to day one of the suboxone withdrawals. She says she feels like it has. I'm just curious, can somebody help me with this question please. Thank you.
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I am on day 11 of my WD process.  I wish that there weren't so many horror stories on here about SUB WD.  I have a detailed description about my process with WD that I am updating all the time on this site.  Look it up under "Hope for the Subutex Suboxone user in withdrawal from someone in withdrawal".  I think it will offer you hope as it is the whole truth about my personal journey to jump off of Subutex.  God Speed!  Good Luck.  Drop me a line and I'll reply under that post. -ThankGod
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this is my fourth night of being off subs.. just like everyone else i was lead to think this would be no BIG deal when i was ready to get off.. in over about a months time i went from taking 1/2 strips a day down to 1 strip every 3 days.. once the day came i was out i was forced to STOP, i thought that since i had "tappered" i would be ok NO WAY!!!! for the first 3 days my legs wouldnt stop hurting and no sleep.. the legs have stopped but i still can not sleep at all..looking back i wish i would HAVE NEVER taken this drug.. plz THINK about what ur doing before u get urself stuck.. its hard but u can do it.. STAY STRONG HAVE SOMEONE THERE FOR U TO TALK TO..this isnt over for me but im sure in due time I WILL BE THE PERSON I ONCE WAS OVER 2YRS AGO...GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE HURT N.. U WIL MAKE IT :)

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thank you that helped. I am self detoxing after about 4 months on Suboxone...that first dose was heavenly in the doctors office...one article said it should only be use to detox from narcs over one month. Over.

I weaned from 16 to 8 and then even skip some doses..Not recommending that and I have suffered.

This is about day 5 without...hard struggle. But better I think?

thanks,

S.,

M
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Hello, ive been on suboxone 8mg tabs for a few months and then I had to switch to strips for the remaining period. All together, ive been on this drug prescribed for almost 2 years. I just recently jumped off. Except I had no choice. I moved to p.a. so that I knew I didnt have a way to get subs anymore. I was taking a half strip everyday. Today is day 5 for me. The only thing I'm having a problem with is the blood pressure. I have hot and cold sweats that keep me from sleeping. I went 3 days and nights with no sleep BC I was tossing and turning and twitching while being burning hot or freezing cold. I'm always colder then the actual temp now. Does anyone know home remedies to subside these symptoms? And since I was taking a half strip everyday for almost 2 yrs, does anyone know when my blood pressure and sweats be back to normal again? Please help. I'm doing this all by myself with nothing to take to get through this.
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Your post is a year old, but maybe this will help someone else. You have to wean off Suboxone like you would oxy if you could, but most find that impossible to do, so that's why they invented Suboxone. Taking any codone while on Suboxone will not help you since your nerve endings are already coated and therefore protected from the codone pill. From what you said about the 1mg for a week, has made your tolerance level at 1mg., you have to wean down much farther than that before going cold turkey. Since you are down to 1mg. now take that 1mg, and cut it in half. Use the scissors on a little swiss army knife. It's a great tool. Then after taking a half of a 1mg. dose for a few days then take 1/3 of a 1mg. dose for a few days. Then after taking 1/3 of a 1mg. dose for a few days then take 1/4 of a 1mg. dose for a few days. That will be .25mg. .. That .25 dose will help. After doing a .25 dose for 3 days, then cut that little fleck in half.Take that much for 3 days. Your body, believe it or not, will adjust to that. It's hard to cut anything smaller than that., but if you can cut it in half, do it, for a few more days. Then quit, and feel the blues for a day or two....Then you will be on the road to recovery....
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