Where so i start ? i started out with vicodon, for about a month due a herinated disk and found that wasnt working for the pain at all so the DR gave me 5MG percs 84 a month.. then it raised to 7.5mg 84 amonth..i wasn't looking for a high i was looking for plain pain relife so they tries oxycontins 20mg twice a day it worked great i only took them for 3 weeks cause it was rommbie time...so i made a call and get back on the pers 7.5mg and been on them for well over 1.5 yrs,,, i started at 3 aday and jumped to 6 aday due to the pain and tolerance...and i find myself running out every month for the last 3months and talk about hell! withdrawls every month isnt kicking it...i talked to the DR of course they wont fix the dose and im kinda glad they wont...i am really looking at stopping them completely but i also know the back pain is a living hell not being able to get otta bed and so forth...i know what the withdrawls are life and they sure the freak are not the best time of my life...i take trazadone for sleep i guess its ok...who knows i thought id jump in here...i am not addicted more of the dependent on these percs....and i do wish i felt like i did 2yrs ago...i lost my lady i was with for 3yrs due to the mood swings...we are just talking again...people if you dont have to take these dont its easier said then done i understand....im looking at a cold turkey this month coming up and i have been slowly tapering the pills but suffering from bad back pain and the runs the watery eyes nose thing...it sucks sucks bad...but we gotta pay sometimes for the wrong we have done...we all know what chance we took when starting these but didn't look future if i read all this stuff before i started the meds i would have never started them....but then again with back pain who knows....all i know if its not one thing in life its always another...good luck people and i have loved reading your posts they help out a lot....
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I tried to quit oxycodone and hydrocodone 13 days ago. I have been clean 10 of those 13 days. But my slipups seem to have cost me recovery time. My stomach is my main problem. I can barely eat. So therefore I feel weak. I will stay clean this time, I have too much to lose.
I got some promethazine to help with my stomach.
I would like to know is promethazine an opiate? And am I increasing my problem by taking it? It really helps me eat though.
Im hoping to be over all my withdrawals asap. How long does the stomach pains and nausea usually last?
I got some promethazine to help with my stomach.
I would like to know is promethazine an opiate? And am I increasing my problem by taking it? It really helps me eat though.
Im hoping to be over all my withdrawals asap. How long does the stomach pains and nausea usually last?
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Me and my wife are on day 5 withdrawing from methadone and a long stint of other opiates over the past few years. It seems like the later the day goes it gets better, and each day is better then the last. My main problem is the weird depression it gives you especially about sad things in your life. It does help to take tylenol a good 1 1/2 hours after you take it. Take alot of hot baths. I had to take this week off from work luckily it landed on a good time to quit. Im just worried about the people i owe money for this horrible addiction and pills being accessible. Its so easy to go back. It sometimes seems like i should get more to try and taper to lighten the withdrawal. The only way to quit is to quit and take the withdrawals. Just like someone mentioned here you have to pay for doing this to your mind and body. Your brain has to realize its going to have to go back to normal to function properly and that my friends take time. Dont worry we are all going through it or you wouldnt be here. If you can stop someone from taking this horrible addiction on grab the bull by the horns and do something. I have 2 daughters but you first have to want to be normal for yourself. I started doing opiates because im an addict not because of physical pain. It started with the first puff of marijuana then i hurt my ankle when i was 17 and felt the feeling for the first time and its been downhill ever-since. Ive taken everything orally and by inflating from morphine to hydrocodone to methadone. Pray about it as much as you can. Hopefully someone can relate like i have reading this forum.
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I would like to know where this site helps you with withdraws? I keep hearing people ask but there is no where to click for the answer?
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How long can the physical parts of opiate withdrawal last?
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Hey, My name is Josh, Im 22 Years old, I have played this opiate game for 5 years, its awful how it comes about, I started taking percocet for dental pain, never abused them but one day at work i took 2, then 15 mins later found myself eager to help customers, i realized it was the pills, well it went from that to me shooting up $225 of heroin in a 12 hour period, its a blessing im alive. But i had to make a choice, kick the sh*t or go to prison, i am currently facing a 10 year sentence in a state facility for 1st degree armed robbery, In 4 short years i went from college student pending a flight career( i have a pilots liscence) to junkie pending prison sentence, i put everyone i loved through hell. To get to my point, I had to kick this with all these problems 2 months away. I tried tapering, I tried suboxone, I tried methadone, I tried weed, I tried alcohol, i tried xanax. And to be honest, nothing really works but time. The first few days are gonna be hell. I had hallucinations thinking i was in the show OZ. you can imagine how that went. My skin was melting from my body, bones were shattered, Muscles were ripping apart, and mentally i was broken. But what you need to keep in mind is this is only your body getting itself in order, you have been numb for so long, simple things like the feel of cotton or a slight breeze will feel like razors piercing your flesh. I didn't think i could do it, i really didn't. Everything smelled like sh*t, tasted like sh*t, looked like sh*t, sounded like sh*t, and felt like sh*t. It is basically sh*t. Be strong my friend, BE STRONG, you need to find an inner strength you didnt know you had, but you have it, we all do, This is one of the greatest adversity's you'll probably ever face. When your in horrid pain and you cant take it anymore change your attitude, Think to yourself, Every shiver, every cramp, every explosive sh*t i i take, every ant that bites your skin, is just one cram, sh*t, bite and shiver closer to being ok. Its a rough road, not one easily taken but cold turkey is the best way, quickest, and most assured way to kick it. As far as finding comfort, well to be honest there isnt much you can do, Imodium for the stomach, but what helped me the most was a nice hot shower, i got in the shower and it went away completely, I was awake, aware, and at peace for a good hour, You'll feel a bit refreshed when you get out and ready to tackle the next segment, But don't do it too often, In your state your body will adapt to the shower and it wont do much if you take one every hour, You want this pain, YOU NEED THIS PAIN, Because every second you dive into it is 1 second closer to the surface. When i finally did it all the way through The last night which was night 6. I drank a bottle of vodka, which was bad but for an hour i was rockin out to music, Just move. I ended up tossing up something that was black and very foul, I fell asleep for 2 hours, after being up 5 nights straight, and when i woke up i still felt like sh*t, but that overbearing feeling, the i cant take it anymore went away, i was able to deal with it, and from that point every second it got better and better and better and better. Time will start to go faster, before you realize it you'll be a month clean and days will click off like a tv remote. Most importantly, TAKE THIS ONE DAY AT A TIME, there isn't wiser advice than that, if you have to take in second, min or hour at a time, but set short goals for yourself, when you reach them you'll feel better, You'll feel stronger, I promise you, the goal you want is in your hands, you just have to close your fist and run with it, don't be afraid, after this there will be very few things that will be hard for you and you'll appreciate the strength you attained from this hellish nightmare. I hope this can help. I know it sounds nuts but its the gods honest truth. I am now 4 months clean, a damn miracle.
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iv been on oc and percs for 6 years. 6 days ago i quit cold turkey.
day 1: sweats, sh*t 5 times, skin feels like sh*t cant sleep
day 2: same as above but with a one hour period that i decided to use. got though it didnt use. took sleeping pill, tramadol and valium.
day 3: the tram and val took away the cold sweats, back hurts
day 4: tram & val left the house not feelin too bad
day 5: tram & val time to see where im at. no sleeping pill.
day 6:finally fall asleep at 6:30am wake at 9:00am. cant eat cold sweats are back, back hurts, wrapping my self in blankets or bathrobe turn the heat up. today sucked balls! 6pm i take 2 tramadol and a valium and feeling normal again (with back pain). **nothing wrong with my back, just from the withdrawal.
day 7 tomorrow is first day back at work, will take 2 tramadol and a valium should get me through the day. hopefully only a couple more days of this sh*t left. i can guarentee i will not use. im stronger than this sh*t.
day 1: sweats, sh*t 5 times, skin feels like sh*t cant sleep
day 2: same as above but with a one hour period that i decided to use. got though it didnt use. took sleeping pill, tramadol and valium.
day 3: the tram and val took away the cold sweats, back hurts
day 4: tram & val left the house not feelin too bad
day 5: tram & val time to see where im at. no sleeping pill.
day 6:finally fall asleep at 6:30am wake at 9:00am. cant eat cold sweats are back, back hurts, wrapping my self in blankets or bathrobe turn the heat up. today sucked balls! 6pm i take 2 tramadol and a valium and feeling normal again (with back pain). **nothing wrong with my back, just from the withdrawal.
day 7 tomorrow is first day back at work, will take 2 tramadol and a valium should get me through the day. hopefully only a couple more days of this sh*t left. i can guarentee i will not use. im stronger than this sh*t.
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I have been going through this since Wednesday January 28,2009. I have been on Hydrocodone for 2 yrs now. I recently ran out on Wednesday because I was taking 12 pills a day. I was taking hydrocodone 10/500 do to back and neck injurys. Since Wednesday I have been going through hell. I have to work and it is so hard to get through a day of work because everything hurts so bad. I walk all day at my job and my knees and ankles and lower back hurt so bad. I need to know what should I take for this. I have tried tylenyol and things of that nature with no relief. I am suppose to get another prescrition on Feb 13,2009. I really do not think I want to take them anymore.
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getting ready to self detox from ten years of methadone and hydrocodone pills.... my wife just had our son on December 21, and i promised him i would change my life, for him.... I have seven pills left, plan on taking one a day for seven days at bedtime, and from reading this post i also am gonna get some immodium and some benedryl, i dread it, but please pray for the guy whose doin it for his son..... i need it...... i know what lies ahead of me and its hard.... im not asking for sympathy, i don't know what im asking for, im just scared, ive tried before.... how can seven days feel so hard lol, i mean damn, why cant we all just belly up and beat this stuff.... we are all so tired of being trapped by our addictions.... i have no choice, its like im lost i must stop..... o.O
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Any opiate withdrawal, but especially suboxone withdrawal, is like hell on earth. I've unfortunately been through it like 5 times (for SOME reason) and every time I'm like, "That's it!!! Never again!!!"
SUPPOSEDLY bananas help because of the potassium but seriously, you could munch as many bananas as you could and you wouldn't notice a damn difference in symptoms, which is really frustrating.
When you're in the worst of it, which is usually day 3 or so, and you're like literally losing your mind, try taking, if nothing else, tylenol. It will help a teeny tiny bit with the leg cramps and spasms and such, but nothing too dramatic. Just enough to take a tiny edge off.
Only take Benedryl if you haven't slept in like 2-3 days and you can't keep your eyes open but you can't sit still kind of thing. At least with me, the benedryl made my head spin because it made me more tired but it didn't do anything for the restless leg and in the end it made it worse.
The best thing would be to get your doctor to prescribe you like 10 atavans (spelling?), which is a benzo, and it's really the only thing that can keep you from really losing your mind. It doesn't make everything go away, it just makes it so you don't care as much. And it will help you sleep, which really is a big deal. Lack of sleep=crazy. Crazy+withdrawl=panic. You really don't want to go into panic mode.
The only doctors that will actually give you benzos for this would be the doctor that you're seeing to get the suboxone. If they won't, they won't but most of them will offer it for when you're finally getting off the suboxone.
And from .5 mg a day, it won't be as bad but don't underestimate it. I went from .5 to nothing thinking it would be a breeze and only took like 5 days off of work and it ended up being like 3 weeks of hell and had to end up quitting my damn job over it. But, just think about how much worse it would be it you were going from like 3mg to nothing, or 10mg to nothing. At least it's not that bad. Just keep telling yourself that.
And one last thing...
When you can't sleep, don't fight it. Don't keep trying to fall alseep when you can't. You'll only get frustrated. Try pacing around or taking a bath or stretching. Put some mindless movie on in the background so it's not so quiet and just let yourself be angry. Punch your damn pillow, swear really loud, cry, sob, whatever you have to do.
Drink lots of water, it'll help the toxins leave your body faster.
Ensure will probably help with calories. You can't not eat for a week so yeah, if you can't eat anything, drink ensure for sure.
I found that I craved sweets, cold stuff, and just food in general more than when I was on the suboxone so that wasn't a problem for me but everyone's different.
Have someone around to wait on you hand and foot and BABY you. I know I needed to whine and complain like a little kid and I needed someone there to feel sorry for me and baby the hell out of me. It does help. This person CANNOT be someone that knows where to find heroin. You will surprise yourself when you get this desperate. You'll do anything, seriously. And you'll make this person feel so bad that they'll actually go out looking for some for you so yeah be careful of that.
And after you're finally done with it, it'll take a few months to feel normal again. Cravings for dope or oxys or whatever you do will also go up. Mouthwatering cravings. If you can just get through like 6 months it'll get easier. Just try and remember how shitty the withdrawal was. I know that never stops anyone but what the hell.
SUPPOSEDLY bananas help because of the potassium but seriously, you could munch as many bananas as you could and you wouldn't notice a damn difference in symptoms, which is really frustrating.
When you're in the worst of it, which is usually day 3 or so, and you're like literally losing your mind, try taking, if nothing else, tylenol. It will help a teeny tiny bit with the leg cramps and spasms and such, but nothing too dramatic. Just enough to take a tiny edge off.
Only take Benedryl if you haven't slept in like 2-3 days and you can't keep your eyes open but you can't sit still kind of thing. At least with me, the benedryl made my head spin because it made me more tired but it didn't do anything for the restless leg and in the end it made it worse.
The best thing would be to get your doctor to prescribe you like 10 atavans (spelling?), which is a benzo, and it's really the only thing that can keep you from really losing your mind. It doesn't make everything go away, it just makes it so you don't care as much. And it will help you sleep, which really is a big deal. Lack of sleep=crazy. Crazy+withdrawl=panic. You really don't want to go into panic mode.
The only doctors that will actually give you benzos for this would be the doctor that you're seeing to get the suboxone. If they won't, they won't but most of them will offer it for when you're finally getting off the suboxone.
And from .5 mg a day, it won't be as bad but don't underestimate it. I went from .5 to nothing thinking it would be a breeze and only took like 5 days off of work and it ended up being like 3 weeks of hell and had to end up quitting my damn job over it. But, just think about how much worse it would be it you were going from like 3mg to nothing, or 10mg to nothing. At least it's not that bad. Just keep telling yourself that.
And one last thing...
When you can't sleep, don't fight it. Don't keep trying to fall alseep when you can't. You'll only get frustrated. Try pacing around or taking a bath or stretching. Put some mindless movie on in the background so it's not so quiet and just let yourself be angry. Punch your damn pillow, swear really loud, cry, sob, whatever you have to do.
Drink lots of water, it'll help the toxins leave your body faster.
Ensure will probably help with calories. You can't not eat for a week so yeah, if you can't eat anything, drink ensure for sure.
I found that I craved sweets, cold stuff, and just food in general more than when I was on the suboxone so that wasn't a problem for me but everyone's different.
Have someone around to wait on you hand and foot and BABY you. I know I needed to whine and complain like a little kid and I needed someone there to feel sorry for me and baby the hell out of me. It does help. This person CANNOT be someone that knows where to find heroin. You will surprise yourself when you get this desperate. You'll do anything, seriously. And you'll make this person feel so bad that they'll actually go out looking for some for you so yeah be careful of that.
And after you're finally done with it, it'll take a few months to feel normal again. Cravings for dope or oxys or whatever you do will also go up. Mouthwatering cravings. If you can just get through like 6 months it'll get easier. Just try and remember how shitty the withdrawal was. I know that never stops anyone but what the hell.
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I am addicted to oxys and percocets. On average, I have been using around 80 mgs a day. I have been trying to get clean but the withdrawl is hell. My problem isn't the stomach issues but the extreme irritability and anxiousness. I feel like I'm crawling out of my skin. In addition to the jitters I get like a burning feeling in my chest. I can't lay still but I feel incapable of getting up and doing anything. I also get aches and pains and can't sleep at all. If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Ur definitely right about telling yourself that "It will all be over soon""And that it is all going to be worth it"..Unfortunately this is my 2nd time withdrawing from these OC 80'z..I was able 2 deal with all tha horrible withdrawl symptoms that you all talk about n kicked a habit of four 80mg Oc'z a day for about 2 years ina 9 day cold turkey withdrawl letz jus call it HELL!! Anywayz i got off them and everything was good i finally had myself back until i thought maybe i could just do them every once in awhile because im not addicted anymore..haha right?? i started back up and have been using everyday for about 8 months..I was able this time to wean myself down 2 about a 80 a day but "still feeling sick" for about a week then just stopped completely..I haven't done anything for about 48 hours to be exact n I feel like blowing my head off..I cant believe i let myself get back 2 this point ive arrddyy been thru it n beat it now i gotta fight it again..Tha only wayy to get off these tho is to just stop takin them whether ur weaning or not..I have friendz that went tha suboxone route n are still on those things maybe even worse then they were on tha 80'z..Im done for good this time n im fightin this baby till tha end. Smokin Treez does help but 2 be honest the 1st time i quit these thingz i didnt ever smoke n i did smoke a lil bit 2 help with tha withdrawlz n never stopped..I dont have a reason to yett i kinda like it actually haha anywayz good luck out there whoever is battling this addiction jus remember it will all be over soon n jus deal with it..Consider it pain for all tha badd thingz that you've done unless urr a saint. Usually about after day 6 ur heading into the clear so i got 4 more "which are tha worse" to go.
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I have a fiance that wants to get clean for me for two years she has been on morphine patches and taking atleast four percocet 10's it's only been one full day since the last patch came off and about half a day since the last percocet went down already we are going thru sweats and muscle spasms is there any thing i can do for her at home
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I was on methadone for the past several months. The first time I tried to get off, I had stopped taking the methadone for only 48 hours before taking a 8mg Suboxone pill. I immediately went into Precipitated Withdrawal, which was one of the most horrifically atrocious experiences in my life. There are no superlatives that could describe the torture I went through during that hour, but I'm sure many others have unfortunately went through it as well. My doc gave me a few Oxycodone's to balance things out and the Precipitated Withdrawal went away.
This 2nd time around, I've researched things more thoroughly, and I'd like to hear feedback about my process from all of you. I brought myself down to taking 20mg of methadone per day before I stopped taking methadone altogether, about 2 weeks ago from today. Right after I stopped taking the 20mg of methadone per day, I started taking Oxycodone every day for about 10 days. I didn't experience any of the methadone withdrawals after I switched to Oxycodone. I got myself to transition from Methadone to Oxycodone without experiencing any significant withdrawals or side effects. I heard the transition from Oxycodone to Suboxone is much more pleasant than the transition from Methadone to Suboxone so my goal was obviously then to go from Oxycodone to Suboxone. After I stopped taking Oxycodone on Day 10, I began taking Suboxone the day after. I started by taking 2 8mg Suboxone pills. The heavy withdrawal symptoms came for about 30 minutes, but luckily I fell asleep. I woke up about 1 hour later and felt much better. I got the chills/goosebumps a lot but that was the only side effect. On Day 2, I only took 1 8mg Suboxone instead of 2, and things were a little better than on Day 1. I still had the chills but not as bad. Day 3 was better. And Day 4 is even better, still at 1 8mg pill.
I haven't taken any methadone in more than 2 weeks and haven't taken any oxycodone in more than 4 days and have not experienced any significant withdrawal symptoms so far. I've been taking Suboxone for these past 4 days. As of now, I'm taking 1 8mg Suboxone pill. I am planning on taking the 8mg pill once more tonight and again tomorrow night, but then after that, split them in half and take 4mg a night for a few nights, and then 2 mg a night, and then come off suboxone. So basically I would've only been on the suboxone for a few weeks, hopefully not long enough to experience any significant withdrawal symptoms when I get off of it in (what I hope is) 2 weeks.
MY QUESTION TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP: I've been on 8mg of Suboxone for 4 days now and haven't experienced any significant withdrawals - how should I get myself off of Suboxone now? Should I follow what I just talked about in the previous paragraph? Everything I've done has worked so far so hopefully this will too.
Thanks! I appreciate your feedback!
Jeff
Atlanta, GA
This 2nd time around, I've researched things more thoroughly, and I'd like to hear feedback about my process from all of you. I brought myself down to taking 20mg of methadone per day before I stopped taking methadone altogether, about 2 weeks ago from today. Right after I stopped taking the 20mg of methadone per day, I started taking Oxycodone every day for about 10 days. I didn't experience any of the methadone withdrawals after I switched to Oxycodone. I got myself to transition from Methadone to Oxycodone without experiencing any significant withdrawals or side effects. I heard the transition from Oxycodone to Suboxone is much more pleasant than the transition from Methadone to Suboxone so my goal was obviously then to go from Oxycodone to Suboxone. After I stopped taking Oxycodone on Day 10, I began taking Suboxone the day after. I started by taking 2 8mg Suboxone pills. The heavy withdrawal symptoms came for about 30 minutes, but luckily I fell asleep. I woke up about 1 hour later and felt much better. I got the chills/goosebumps a lot but that was the only side effect. On Day 2, I only took 1 8mg Suboxone instead of 2, and things were a little better than on Day 1. I still had the chills but not as bad. Day 3 was better. And Day 4 is even better, still at 1 8mg pill.
I haven't taken any methadone in more than 2 weeks and haven't taken any oxycodone in more than 4 days and have not experienced any significant withdrawal symptoms so far. I've been taking Suboxone for these past 4 days. As of now, I'm taking 1 8mg Suboxone pill. I am planning on taking the 8mg pill once more tonight and again tomorrow night, but then after that, split them in half and take 4mg a night for a few nights, and then 2 mg a night, and then come off suboxone. So basically I would've only been on the suboxone for a few weeks, hopefully not long enough to experience any significant withdrawal symptoms when I get off of it in (what I hope is) 2 weeks.
MY QUESTION TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP: I've been on 8mg of Suboxone for 4 days now and haven't experienced any significant withdrawals - how should I get myself off of Suboxone now? Should I follow what I just talked about in the previous paragraph? Everything I've done has worked so far so hopefully this will too.
Thanks! I appreciate your feedback!
Jeff
Atlanta, GA
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To the person who said their chest hurts and they have terrible anxiety-- me f*****g too. It sucks and I don't think there is a fix for it except making smoking weed or taking klonipin.
To the person who is quitting Suboxone-
I would HIGHLY recommend TAPERING AS FAST AS YOU CAN. Normally I would say go really really slow, but since you haven't been on it that long I would get the hell off asap because that withdrawal sucks. I would get yourself like 3 codeine pills. After you take your last suboxone and you are in considerable withdrawals, take one of the pain pills. Break the other two pain pills in half and slowly take them over the course of like three days. You are probably still going to have withdrawals. Who knows? You just took 3 drugs in a row that have horrible withdrawals so its bound to happen. Its unavoidable, but if you follow my advice it should really help. You just have to stay in control. Remember, if you dont experience the withdrawals at all, then nothing is going to stop you from relapsing. You have to hate it.
To the person who is quitting Suboxone-
I would HIGHLY recommend TAPERING AS FAST AS YOU CAN. Normally I would say go really really slow, but since you haven't been on it that long I would get the hell off asap because that withdrawal sucks. I would get yourself like 3 codeine pills. After you take your last suboxone and you are in considerable withdrawals, take one of the pain pills. Break the other two pain pills in half and slowly take them over the course of like three days. You are probably still going to have withdrawals. Who knows? You just took 3 drugs in a row that have horrible withdrawals so its bound to happen. Its unavoidable, but if you follow my advice it should really help. You just have to stay in control. Remember, if you dont experience the withdrawals at all, then nothing is going to stop you from relapsing. You have to hate it.
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