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Hi All,

Ive been reading into all the different topics on quitting the weed as i am at the beggining of my journey but my main cause of 'withdrawl' is hitting me hard and its the only one ive truly feared happening which is the actual getting to sleep..

I feel a bit stupid as i have only been smoking for 4 years and reading comments from people who have been smoking longer than i have been on this planet but i feel that if i can get it out on here it may help and i look forward to hearing back anything about it and to all the real long term users i respect you massivley as i think another 15years of smoking weed would put me in a looney bin.

Over the last four years ive probarbly had less than a week in days where i havent smoked that day and especialy before going to bed. I'm on holiday visiting an older half brother at the moment (who does not know that i smoke, nobody in my family does... although they probarbly do as they are not stupid) and its the first time my habbit has ground to a halt. Before i left i mannaged to get some Zopiclone (7.5mg) from my friends sister as she was perscribed them for help with sleep i've taken them most nights but now i have run out, on my first night i took one pill which didnt really have a massive effect and i still had that 'tight chest feeling' if you know what i mean when trying to get to sleep and even though im tired my mind is racing, the second night i took two and that did the job i was gone, excessive alcohol was enough for the other nights but i dont want to turn into an alcoholic! I know that i shouldnt really be taking this stuff as it hasnt been perscibed to me and with my weed habits i dont want to turn to meds as i feel that i will become addicted to them.

My problem as i said is getting to sleep, when i was 15 i thought id found the cure when weed 'helped me get to sleep' but now i realise that it has only made the problem a million times worse and on a night like tonight im wide awake and dont feel that i will be able to sleep at all. Ive not been missing the smoking yet but i fear when i get home the first thing im going to do is score. Urges to have a spliff pass quickly for now and i can 'distract' myself from that kind of thing but i cannot get into a frame of mind where i feel like i can sleep. Does anyone have any techniques or ideas that might help me when it comes to the end of the day. I feel like i want to be finnished with weed now and i just want to be able to sleep like a normal person. I have tried relaxation techniques but to no avail.

Last night i had one of these vivid dreams that people often bring up, i can remember coming into a room and having my family/work colleages (i think) and i felt like i was on trial, i remember screaming out that i was a addicted to weed and that i needed help but it was as if everyone turned their back, i cant really remember 100% but thats the jist of it, i felt kind of confused when i woke but it was just becuase i could remember a dream for the first time in a very long time and after the innitial horror of being rejected by the people in my dream i felt happy about as i hadnt really remembered anything from my sleep in years. Its 2.30 in the morning now and im going to read a book... more than likely until the rest of the world gets up to start their day
Thanks for reading and any help will be greatly appreaciated and keep up the good work to everyone who's trying to defeat this nasty habbit.


Jimi D, 21, From Uk

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Basically, you're smart enough to write a lucid post, and young enough that it's in your strong interest to sort your life out - I'm neither. Got into dope with a girlfriend at 30, got bored of dope, but never quit the cigarettes. At first it was nice to have my brain shut down, which I interpreted as relaxing, until I realised that all I've really done is prevent my brain being able to take any rational action.

See Johnny Depp, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Ending is scary: as he realises no one's going to save him.

Forget 'trying' to quit, veterans came back from Vietnam, where they'd been on heroin, and walked away. Life changed, they changed.

I'm a schm*ck - nothing right now in my life to make not smoking that appealing, so it's one long slide... but I'm fifty, had a great life, and apparently (so my friends seem to feel) still have enough brain cells to impress - for how long, I have no idea, but I certainly don't 'feel' excited about life after twenty years addiction.

Want to be that stupid? Go ahead - want a life - forget what you can't do - focus on who you are - who you've forgotten to be. Forget the lack of sleep, focus on the lack of life. That's another issue I'm all too familiar with. Degrade your body, the energy and motivation aren't there to exercise, the body doesn't do anything, the mind isn't present to do anything, so there's no actual need to sleep, as you haven't yet done anything.

There are a million ways to walk away, if you want to: only one way to keep going: keep buying.

For the second time tonight, I'm reminded of Paul Simon's: 50 Ways to Leave your Lover.

Well, your lover's week, mine's a smoke: cheaper, more convenient than a girlfriend, doesn't complain, but gee, maybe there's a few things I miss.

Go on a world trip - shoes, shirt, wallet, watch - or as they used to say in WWII - spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch - if you have those, you're alive. You can leave. For a race that's gone to the moon, we're incredibly lazy about life, and barely walk to the store.

Come back and right a book about it: around the world on a motorcyle, in a canoe, in a microlight, in a balloon, on foot, shagging stewardesses on a jumbo - who cares - just get out there and be alive.

Or not. Your call.
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... and one of these days I'm going to figure out whether my spelling goes to sh*t when I'm on this site or some dweeb of a programmer (like me, among other things) has got some bizarre US spell checker going ... that, at least, isn't down to weed (with a d, let's see if it makes it this time)
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