Emperorminge.
As someone told me, Welcome to the Lisfranc club! I read your story this morning and boy do I know what you are going through, as most on this site can...
I will tell you, that the pain after the surg. does get better, but all the other frustrations of being off your feet sure can add up. I am in Kansas City, Missouri- guess how I did this? I just fell, a simple fall. While turning a corner in a resteraunt ( also holding my 2 yr old) I slipped and fell. I also heard the pop, but had NO idea what I had done. I also, could not walk on my foot. I have read that this can happen with a twist during a fall. Thankgoodness my son was not hurt!
I had so much pain after my surgery, seemed to have more while sleeping. I had the soft cast, so getting your hard cast off should help you. I took 2 large pillows & propped up my foot while I slept, it would help a little. I would highly recommend you take it easy & just stay off your foot. Ice helps and keep taking the pain pills!
I went to my Dr. this past week to discuss my foot, my surgery was 4 months ago. My Ortho Surgeron was not in favor of taking out my screws, he pretty much told me that with this type of injury, I will have life long problems. Arthritus I would assume. He also told me that this injury various from each person, depending on the fracuture location & alll the wonderful painfull legimate damage. My Dr. is going to consider removing my screws in Nov ( 6 mo post surg) as I think the 2 towards the top could be touching / it just hurts when I try to wear a shoe that touches that area. I asked him having the screws removed would hurt like the first surgery? He said that it would , but the recovery time would be less, 2 weeks instead of 6. My Dr. said the surg. will not completly help me with the pain, it will take time. ( I've heard a year?? ) I'm stressing about having the surgery again but hopeful that it will help. I'm scared to go thru that again. You have pins right? Do you have screws too?
Hang in there.... keep us updated on how your doing.
As someone told me, Welcome to the Lisfranc club! I read your story this morning and boy do I know what you are going through, as most on this site can...
I will tell you, that the pain after the surg. does get better, but all the other frustrations of being off your feet sure can add up. I am in Kansas City, Missouri- guess how I did this? I just fell, a simple fall. While turning a corner in a resteraunt ( also holding my 2 yr old) I slipped and fell. I also heard the pop, but had NO idea what I had done. I also, could not walk on my foot. I have read that this can happen with a twist during a fall. Thankgoodness my son was not hurt!
I had so much pain after my surgery, seemed to have more while sleeping. I had the soft cast, so getting your hard cast off should help you. I took 2 large pillows & propped up my foot while I slept, it would help a little. I would highly recommend you take it easy & just stay off your foot. Ice helps and keep taking the pain pills!
I went to my Dr. this past week to discuss my foot, my surgery was 4 months ago. My Ortho Surgeron was not in favor of taking out my screws, he pretty much told me that with this type of injury, I will have life long problems. Arthritus I would assume. He also told me that this injury various from each person, depending on the fracuture location & alll the wonderful painfull legimate damage. My Dr. is going to consider removing my screws in Nov ( 6 mo post surg) as I think the 2 towards the top could be touching / it just hurts when I try to wear a shoe that touches that area. I asked him having the screws removed would hurt like the first surgery? He said that it would , but the recovery time would be less, 2 weeks instead of 6. My Dr. said the surg. will not completly help me with the pain, it will take time. ( I've heard a year?? ) I'm stressing about having the surgery again but hopeful that it will help. I'm scared to go thru that again. You have pins right? Do you have screws too?
Hang in there.... keep us updated on how your doing.
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Hello everyone, I have been reading this forum for awhile now seeing how others are coping with this type of injury. I obtained this injury at work...had surgery with 3 screws...nonweightbearing for 8 weeks...in a walking cast type of boot for another 8 weeks at which time the screws were removed. Now approx. 7 months later I still have pain and trouble walking. At my last orthopedic visit, my doctor prescribed a brace and a special shoe. I seem to be walking better but not great. Haven't had any physical therapy. Am surprised from reading other posts that my doctor hasn't brought this up yet. What kind of PT is everyone receiving? Does it help? Although, my foot will never be the same again :-( - I hope it will get a little bit more pain free. I don't want to go through another surgery --fusion--- and start all over again with the recovery process. Hope everyone is having a great day.
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I just found this site today! I am glad that I am not the only one that has gone for a couple of months without the proper diagnosis. I injured my right foot on July 3. I ended up throwing myself off of a Jet ski. Right away after it happened I had a horrible burning pain in my foot and it didnt look right. So I went into the ER where I work and was told that it was a bad contusion. I did not have weight bearing xrays done as I could not put any pressure on my foot. I was placed in a orthoglass splint and told to follow up in 3 days.
I went in and they had me get a MRI, it was scheduled for the 7th of july. I was told on monday that the MRI was negative. THat following friday I was still hurting so I went back to a different Family practice provider and found out that I had bone contusions and edema in my bone marrow. I was given a cam walker and to keep on using crutches and advance as i was able.
2 weeks later I went back for a follow up and still told that It would take a while to get better. .. TO make a longer story short, the end of August we decided that it was time to see a OS. On sept 8. I saw a gal that specializes in the foot/ankle. She had me do weight bearing xrays and found the Lisfranc dislocation, she thinks that I possibly broke my 2nd metatarsal, and I have an accessory navicular.
I am scheduled to have surgery this week on the 27th. I am not looking forward to it but I know I need it. It sounds like it will be pretty painful looking at all of your posts. Has anyone ever ended up staying overnight due to the pain?? it seems like a big surgery to be going home.
Anyone have any advice?
THanks SHeribear
I went in and they had me get a MRI, it was scheduled for the 7th of july. I was told on monday that the MRI was negative. THat following friday I was still hurting so I went back to a different Family practice provider and found out that I had bone contusions and edema in my bone marrow. I was given a cam walker and to keep on using crutches and advance as i was able.
2 weeks later I went back for a follow up and still told that It would take a while to get better. .. TO make a longer story short, the end of August we decided that it was time to see a OS. On sept 8. I saw a gal that specializes in the foot/ankle. She had me do weight bearing xrays and found the Lisfranc dislocation, she thinks that I possibly broke my 2nd metatarsal, and I have an accessory navicular.
I am scheduled to have surgery this week on the 27th. I am not looking forward to it but I know I need it. It sounds like it will be pretty painful looking at all of your posts. Has anyone ever ended up staying overnight due to the pain?? it seems like a big surgery to be going home.
Anyone have any advice?
THanks SHeribear
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SHeribear,
I, myself did stay overnight in the hosp, though I think it was due to my surgery time. My ortho. surgeon had an emerg. surg that lasted much longer than expected, I would reccomend you stay, if you can.
Raven49,
I also had 3 screws and I am about 4 1/2 months post surg. - are you having your screws removed? You might of read my prev. comments, but my Dr also did not offer me physical therapy. I'm having so many problems finding shoes to wear. What kind of shoe did your Dr. offer you? I'm not walking that great either. I know others really mean well, but I sure do get tired of all the comments " When is your foot going to get better, is it still hurting you, why are you still limping? " So, I'm shooting for the middle of Nov for the screw removal & I am going to insist on physical therapy, though I have no idea what it will consist of.
Take care,
SKH
I, myself did stay overnight in the hosp, though I think it was due to my surgery time. My ortho. surgeon had an emerg. surg that lasted much longer than expected, I would reccomend you stay, if you can.
Raven49,
I also had 3 screws and I am about 4 1/2 months post surg. - are you having your screws removed? You might of read my prev. comments, but my Dr also did not offer me physical therapy. I'm having so many problems finding shoes to wear. What kind of shoe did your Dr. offer you? I'm not walking that great either. I know others really mean well, but I sure do get tired of all the comments " When is your foot going to get better, is it still hurting you, why are you still limping? " So, I'm shooting for the middle of Nov for the screw removal & I am going to insist on physical therapy, though I have no idea what it will consist of.
Take care,
SKH
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Hi all, I've started a new thread on LISFRANC FOOT Fractures as this one is getting a bit unruly. I know its easier to just hit Reply but please click on the link below to get to the new thread and then click on Reply.
Lisfranc Foot Fracture Part II
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#378110
PT Treatments - I got my Family Dr to refer me to a PT in my area (as my OS said "They might do more harm than good"). Still can't believe he said that and neither can they but they are easier to talk to and ask questions of. Anyhow, when I go they give me these treatments (bear with me I can't remember what they're called but you'll get the idea) Light Treatment followed by Electric Shock Treatment combined with Ice. I've asked them not to twist my foot in any way as to cause me pain as its VERY tender so they just ask me to show them how flexible my joints are and what I am doing for exercises and then they guide me from there as to the next exercises and stretching things I should be working on.
SKH - I am also getting the comments on "Isn't your foot better yet?" Urghhh - I wish everyone could read this site and hear the complaints from everyone about how painful this injury is! Anyhow, as to your shoe question (this probably won't help but I'll share it anyhow), I'm wearing Reebox Beach shoes everywhere I go. I've just recently started to walk around the house (like from the livingroom couch to the fridge and back to the couch in the livingroom) just to get the strength back in those muscles but prior to this I was in my REEBOXs EVERYWHERE. Oh, and I do it late at night so that I can deal with any inflamation when I sleep.
Personal Update - I see a SLIGHT improvement every 2 weeks or so. To stay positive, I just remember where I was 8 weeks post injury and think "Yeah, its definitely better than it was so I must be getting better." I must say however, recovery sure is SLOW.
In future, I'll be posting my response on the above Link for the Lisfranc Foot Fracture Part II.
Hang in there everyone, Kelly :-)
Lisfranc Foot Fracture Part II
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#378110
PT Treatments - I got my Family Dr to refer me to a PT in my area (as my OS said "They might do more harm than good"). Still can't believe he said that and neither can they but they are easier to talk to and ask questions of. Anyhow, when I go they give me these treatments (bear with me I can't remember what they're called but you'll get the idea) Light Treatment followed by Electric Shock Treatment combined with Ice. I've asked them not to twist my foot in any way as to cause me pain as its VERY tender so they just ask me to show them how flexible my joints are and what I am doing for exercises and then they guide me from there as to the next exercises and stretching things I should be working on.
SKH - I am also getting the comments on "Isn't your foot better yet?" Urghhh - I wish everyone could read this site and hear the complaints from everyone about how painful this injury is! Anyhow, as to your shoe question (this probably won't help but I'll share it anyhow), I'm wearing Reebox Beach shoes everywhere I go. I've just recently started to walk around the house (like from the livingroom couch to the fridge and back to the couch in the livingroom) just to get the strength back in those muscles but prior to this I was in my REEBOXs EVERYWHERE. Oh, and I do it late at night so that I can deal with any inflamation when I sleep.
Personal Update - I see a SLIGHT improvement every 2 weeks or so. To stay positive, I just remember where I was 8 weeks post injury and think "Yeah, its definitely better than it was so I must be getting better." I must say however, recovery sure is SLOW.
In future, I'll be posting my response on the above Link for the Lisfranc Foot Fracture Part II.
Hang in there everyone, Kelly :-)
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Just an update - been doing physical therapy and it has helped me a lot already - some of the exercises he gave me I would have never thought would help your foot. Going to get fitted for my orthotic inserts tomorrow - which my physical therapist says will be the biggest help right now in recovery. For the time being he bought me some Dr. Scholl's Arch Supports (3/4 length Red ones with a blue top is all I know, but they work great) and I bought some new comfortable shoes for work in 1/2 size bigger than I normally wear, which I think has helped more than anything. I am walking without a limp now but I still do have some achy pain every once in a while, mostly the morning and evening, but is getting better each week. I go back the 2nd week in October (5 weeks post screw removal) and if everything looks ok I should be released to do what I want - of course conservative at my own pace. I might be able to scan the exercises and post a link to them if anybody is interested.
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Timmy - I would love to view the exercises. However, please post them on this thread:
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#378110
Thanks, Kelly
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#378110
Thanks, Kelly
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Hey, Timmy, happy to hear you're doing well! Question: where does your foot hurt morning/night ? I've been walking around in sneakers for about two weeks - should have my screw removed some time next week. I wore shoes (flats) twice, and though my foot did not really hurt that much, my ankle swelled. I was wondering if that is normal. I have not started p.t. yet, but I did start working out with a trainer a couple of weeks ago, and the balance ball exercises he has me do have helped me to learn to use/trust the entire sole of my foot, which also helped lessen the pain and limping when walking. SO, when do you think you'll be able to wakeboard again ? :-)
Wtrskid
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Hi everyone! I have found an excellent website that gives 495 different exercises. You can search for exercises on these filters:
Equipment - 17 different pieces of equipment listed
Categories - 22 different body areas to work on
Go to Lisfranc Foot Fracture Thread II for the url. Thanks for switching to the new thread!
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#380077
There should be something there for everyone. Don't forget to check with your doctor before you embark on an exercise program.
Wtrskd - I would be interested to hear if you can find your Balance Ball exercises on the url.
Cheers, Kelly :-D
Equipment - 17 different pieces of equipment listed
Categories - 22 different body areas to work on
Go to Lisfranc Foot Fracture Thread II for the url. Thanks for switching to the new thread!
https://www.steadyhealth.com/topics/lisfranc-foot-fracture-thread-part-ii#380077
There should be something there for everyone. Don't forget to check with your doctor before you embark on an exercise program.
Wtrskd - I would be interested to hear if you can find your Balance Ball exercises on the url.
Cheers, Kelly :-D
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My injury ocurred while i was in New Zealand. I merely stumbled on a rough dit of pathway. It was diagnosed within 24 hours anbd operarted on within 36 hours. They are certainly not vacjkward down there! I had 3 screws.
I was told to keep the foot above my heart for 6 weeks with absolutely no weight bearing - not even resting the foot on the plaster at the heel when sitting.
I did as told and started physio at 7 weeks after teh cast came off. I was on crutches for about 6 more weeks and had the screws removed back in the UK after 6 months - and then was on crutches for another 3 weeks.
I can now walk easliy and even run (a little) and dance (carefully). I do not risk sports like tennis etc as it would be silly to risk another twist and break.
There is still a fair bit of pain first thing in the morning and if it hurts to go downstairs, I turn round at the bottom and repeat the up and down till it loosens up.
Always remember it is 'not an inconsequential injury' as all the doctors quoted to me ! Respect your foot and it will cope with normal life. It will never be 'good as new' but hopefully will serve you well enough. Remember that Lisfranc used to amputate at that joint when Napolean's spldiers fell off their horses with their foot still in the stirup. Unfortunately, there are still many cases where the surgery happens too late and there is not a good recovery - treat that foot with respect and care.
I was told to keep the foot above my heart for 6 weeks with absolutely no weight bearing - not even resting the foot on the plaster at the heel when sitting.
I did as told and started physio at 7 weeks after teh cast came off. I was on crutches for about 6 more weeks and had the screws removed back in the UK after 6 months - and then was on crutches for another 3 weeks.
I can now walk easliy and even run (a little) and dance (carefully). I do not risk sports like tennis etc as it would be silly to risk another twist and break.
There is still a fair bit of pain first thing in the morning and if it hurts to go downstairs, I turn round at the bottom and repeat the up and down till it loosens up.
Always remember it is 'not an inconsequential injury' as all the doctors quoted to me ! Respect your foot and it will cope with normal life. It will never be 'good as new' but hopefully will serve you well enough. Remember that Lisfranc used to amputate at that joint when Napolean's spldiers fell off their horses with their foot still in the stirup. Unfortunately, there are still many cases where the surgery happens too late and there is not a good recovery - treat that foot with respect and care.
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I must say that as I read the replies, I do not feel very optimistic about how everyone is doing with their fractures and future diagnosis.
My son broke both his feet in a motorcycle accident (9/1/06) and is non- weightbearing for a min of 8 weeks. He is feeling great frustration in being totally immobile and in wondering what he will be capable of in the future. He has 3 screws per foot and 2 pins. The pins will be pulled out, but has been told that the screws need to stay in. His one foot had major tissue loss also, so would not be a candidate for future removal of screws.
He has been told that he would have arthritic pain, but it sounds like everyone has trouble with shoes. Being an active person, he participates in motocross and skiing. I hate to think that both of those activities are out of the question for him. Is there anyone out there who had this type of injury and surgery awhile ago and has comments about recovery.
My son broke both his feet in a motorcycle accident (9/1/06) and is non- weightbearing for a min of 8 weeks. He is feeling great frustration in being totally immobile and in wondering what he will be capable of in the future. He has 3 screws per foot and 2 pins. The pins will be pulled out, but has been told that the screws need to stay in. His one foot had major tissue loss also, so would not be a candidate for future removal of screws.
He has been told that he would have arthritic pain, but it sounds like everyone has trouble with shoes. Being an active person, he participates in motocross and skiing. I hate to think that both of those activities are out of the question for him. Is there anyone out there who had this type of injury and surgery awhile ago and has comments about recovery.
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Paul,
I was in immense pain for 2 weeks post screw insertion and had to keep my foot elevated for about 2-3 weeks after that or my foot did the purple/swelling thing.
The swelling is definitely dangerous in that it puts pressure on the nerve running down to your big toe (that's the searing pain you feel). The more the nerve is irritated, the more of a chance you will have long-term nerve damage and will be living with that searing pain the rest of your life. When I first started this thread, there was very little I could find out there about Lis Franc fractures and the few things I did read were people who, years later, were still suffering this pain. One person couldn't even stand to have the sheets on the bed touching their foot.
I followed my doc's advice to a T and I kept my foot up and iced until it stopped swelling when it was down. It's now been 20 1/2 months since my injury and most of the time I'm fine. My LF joint pops out of place every once in a while but my chiropractor readjusts it and I feel immediate relief. Most recently, I went to a line dancing workshop where we learned 8 dances in 5 hours. The last dance had a lot of twisting and turning on my bad foot and I felt it pop out of alignment. That was the most pain I've felt in a long long time. I'm also noticing now that it's turning Autumn here in Maryland, it's starting to ache a bit on the colder mornings.
Good luck with your injury and speedy healing!
Anne :)
I was in immense pain for 2 weeks post screw insertion and had to keep my foot elevated for about 2-3 weeks after that or my foot did the purple/swelling thing.
The swelling is definitely dangerous in that it puts pressure on the nerve running down to your big toe (that's the searing pain you feel). The more the nerve is irritated, the more of a chance you will have long-term nerve damage and will be living with that searing pain the rest of your life. When I first started this thread, there was very little I could find out there about Lis Franc fractures and the few things I did read were people who, years later, were still suffering this pain. One person couldn't even stand to have the sheets on the bed touching their foot.
I followed my doc's advice to a T and I kept my foot up and iced until it stopped swelling when it was down. It's now been 20 1/2 months since my injury and most of the time I'm fine. My LF joint pops out of place every once in a while but my chiropractor readjusts it and I feel immediate relief. Most recently, I went to a line dancing workshop where we learned 8 dances in 5 hours. The last dance had a lot of twisting and turning on my bad foot and I felt it pop out of alignment. That was the most pain I've felt in a long long time. I'm also noticing now that it's turning Autumn here in Maryland, it's starting to ache a bit on the colder mornings.
Good luck with your injury and speedy healing!
Anne :)
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My daughter fell down the stairs. She has been in a cast for three weeks and needs to return to the hospital on Friday. We did not know there was suspected Lisfranc until a letter a few days ago. Reading this site has made me panic! She has only broken one metatarsal and may need scans. Her foot is still swelling when she spends too much time on it which is making me think the worst. She is in her second year of university. Will she cope? If it is Lafranc and as serious as you are all saying should she defer? Are you saying she will never be able to use her foot properly again? If she doesn't have the operation what will happen?
Help, from a worried parent?
Thank you
o.O
Help, from a worried parent?
Thank you
o.O
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I suffered an injury to my foot because due to a car accident during labor day weekend. I was later diagnosed with having a Lis Franc injury. From the 2 foot doctors I went to see, the only 2 options seems to be surgery or do nothing at all and experience arthritis later in the future which will lead to bone fusion. I wish this injury did not have to involve such an invasive procedure. It seems like Physical therapy will do little to help the pain I am experiencing. I am finally deciding to have surgery in December. :'(
Did anyone have an overnight stay in the hospital or was it an outpatient procedure?
What is the differences having the following 3 inserted in my foot?
Wires, pins and screws
What medication were you on after the procedures?
How do you cope for 8 weeks with a cast?
After the pins are removed, how long do I wait before I start my physical therapy?
How long will physical therapy last?
I am scared, :-( Camille
Did anyone have an overnight stay in the hospital or was it an outpatient procedure?
What is the differences having the following 3 inserted in my foot?
Wires, pins and screws
What medication were you on after the procedures?
How do you cope for 8 weeks with a cast?
After the pins are removed, how long do I wait before I start my physical therapy?
How long will physical therapy last?
I am scared, :-( Camille
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well it's been a couple years since my surgery and the pain is deffinatly still there. I spend alot of time on my feet during the day and I find it almost more than I can handle.I had my surgery 08-02-04 after a car accident. Had screws put in and taken out(it did feel better when the screws came out) I've been on pain medication the whole time, 3 to 4 times a day. The Doc tells me the next step is to fuse bones, but I can't imagine spending another 4 months off work. has anybody had this fusion done and is it worth it?
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