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i was on subs 3yrs @ 16mg... i just tapered down pretty aggressively which i do not recommend; from 16-0 in just under a month. on day 25 of being clean, still feeling like a piece of sh*t.. feel like im dragging a freaking boat anchor around with me. here is my experience w/ stopping subs.not until you get down to 2mg or so does it start to become pretty uncomfortable. so take your time and dont rush i believe is the best option(1-2mg ever 2-4 weeks). unlike me but i had enough and just choose to man up and bite the bullet.

wd didnt set in till day 2 - wasnt terible i guess

day3 sh*t hit the fan couldnt not stop shaking no appitite  and so on

day4 -8 sick as a dog RLS, no sleep, anxiety, skin crawling, no end in sight

 day9-15-slowly things get better hardly noticeable while going thur it, but it does get better looking back.

day25 still feeling occasional anxiety (comes and goes) still pretty fatigue, still making friend with the toilet.

over-all starting to like life again listening to music again reading alot more. but 4sure not out of the woods yet. as so may other have stated get ready to feel like sh*t for A LONG TIME.. it seems like it goes in stages like every 7 days you feel alot better and believe this is due to the stupid long half life. you will get better and rebound just a matter of how bad you want it.

again this is my experience and i was on for 3yrs straight and short taper and im sure my w/d were worse than they had to be but i was done being a slave to this pos med. (taking a subs to just feel normal doesnt turn me on)

i dont think that this is not a long term drug(at least in the doses these doctors prescribe), and should only be used for a month max(detox drug only not maintenance). docs and pharm company this misrepresent this drug so wrongly as no wd blah blah. they want your money is what is comes down to. in my own opinion the doctors dont understand or dont recognize how potent this drug actually is - 40-50x stronger than morphine and completely blocks your opiate receptors not allowing any other natural made hormones or full opiate for that matter to be received until id say 72 hours of no use because of half life is so long(32hrs) and subs adhear so strongly it overrides everything. so your bodys hormone production just completely shuts down. longer your on it the longer the w/d.

anyway ive been looking and havent found much info on this. ive had such weird headaches and neckaches ive had no injuries there and cant figure them out. is it due to paws, due to stress or what. it started as soon as i started detoxing and been there since. not as bad but still annoying. can anyone else shed some light of this please.

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From what I have read from other posts, suboxone is the devil and the wds from it are worse than from  the drugs themselves. I cannot afford to feel this bad for that long. I have only stopped heroin for 3 days and roxy yesterday. I feel like sh*t. I could not go to work. All I want to do is sleep and I can't even do that. I have not gone to the bathroom for 2 weeks. I cannot live like this since I have a job and a family that needs me. I have done every drug imaginable and have never had a problem just quitting, including meth. I was put on hydrocodone after a really bad car accident and don't know how I can perform my job duties or daily household chores without the pain medication. I don't know what to do. I am really scared.

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i know the feeling all too well. its not a fun experience but we all have been there. so are you taking the hydocodone for the pain still or just because? if its now just become recreational use and you want to quit, it shouldnt be all that bad if you came off all the other stuff.

heres the thing with suboxone. it maybe able to help you if you do it right as a DETOX med. and id only take it for a week or 2 / month tops. DO NOT fall into the trap of continued long term use or there will be hell to pay. most doctors want to keep people on it for a long long time. id say start with 2-3 mg for few days then cut it by .5-1mg every 3 days. maybe give it 1 week then start the taper.

you really can do it with only 16mg and thats all you need if you space it out correctly. dont get me wrong youll still have w/d but not as bad i guess is what they say. i felt like c**p for so long b/c i was on it for 3years. everytime i came off pain pills it wasnt fun but was a walk in the park compared to the long time effects of subs and only lasted 4-5 days for me.

i have never done methadone but from what i could see when i was coming off subs compared to meth users they got off easy. but sometimes when your going through it, it always seem like you got it the worst.

hang in there you can do it.

if you got any question feel free to msg me.
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