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bkwrm, your post has made my night. I chose that exact method in a eureka like moment. I went right back to my original doc, lt. At first I was having to dose twice daily and in large amounts in order to function. After 2 weeks I went back on sub for 5 days taking 1 mg a day. I'm on day 3 since the wd started, day 5 since I took sub and I'm feeling sorta ok. Been taking about 12 mg of loperamide a day and barely any gut pain. Btw, I took sub for over two years which I got on the street. No insurance so it was way cheaper. Sorry about my grammer and spelling. My brains in a fog and I don't feel like thinking too much.
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BLOW it out your backside!! Who made you GOD to telkl someone something as rude and WRONG as your post! Please, PLEASE ignore ignorance at it's best!!!
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Its day 6 and since I took a half a 8mg sub. I have 3 kids and its memorial wknd. I flew back from out of town and the day I flew in with my 1yr old was my last half. I was excited to quit IN THE BEGINNING...the last few days have sucked and to be perfectly honest I dont have the energy to type this. Its time to reach out tho because these people just called me and have subs for sale. I said NO in the nicest way possible because those people are family Ive known them since I was 2. Im 34. Ive been doing some kinda drugs since I was 15. THE USUALLY STORY. Middle class brat. had a baby at 18 got 3 babies now. let me tell you WITHDRAWLING WITH KIDS is sooo hard. and then I think it helps because im really starting to think that getting up and stuff is what makes you get better. my body is used to going on ten thousand miles an hour and just like when I worked two and three different jobs my body groaned when I sat still for too long on my one day off lol. day 1 not bad day 2 gettin bad day 3 even worse day 4 the worst day 5 bad in the a.m.!!!!!!!!!! sweats at night on all these days wake up soaked lol like who spilled water on my back and chest. leg cramps bad all these days but not like quitting ocs or pain pills took that HYLANDS LEG CRAMPS stuff but I doubled up on it lol i was scared i would overdose hahaha like i could od puhlease. anyway they do help befor when i quit tho TO HAVE NO LEG CRAMPS AT ALL TAKE NEURONTIN!!!! my gma takes it and i swiped some she has a million of em let me tell you take some its great. nobody ever really posted on here what it is really like and everyone on here is begging saying how long how long its horrible. but we addicts just use use use lol use the site use dope use whatever huh lol i take prozac so i been taking kinda higher dose of that see if it can get my brain going or something. taking advil like crazy and tylenol my mom is a nurse and i remembered her telling me take them together they will help with back pain so i figured what the hell. also the little blue pill ALE VE thats it. good stuff naproxen.  naproxen is what aleve is lol. my mom is a nurse lol also i worked in healthcare. which i hate. i been watching alot of tv GOD BLESS NETFLIXS so ooo great lol try to watch motivational stuff lol day 6 ok so i thought i had miscounted and i was really on day 5 which really made me sad lol but because of memorial day its day 6! before thats the day something always came thru AND IT DID AGAIN. read above. but imma push thru. my husband and kids dont deserve this BS> i just keep lookin at the dirty clothes and the kids wondering why mom hasnt played that much and is just sitting around. oh btw im supermom lol superhighmom was more like it:-) i be back at it again i used to wake up and hit the floor running with nothing i can do it again. people arent meant to live this way. GOD IS NOT THAT CRUEL at least the God i pray to isnt it. yes i pray lol been prayin alot lately. yes you nonaddicts we pray. anyway ill get back and let you know what the other days are like. I PROMISE besooooooos TMUP
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Wow. You don't know anything about what you are talking about, do you?
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THANK YOU NICOLE... you're story is soooo similar to mine,,, it's scary!!! Feeling as a person... after hiding behind an opiate / narcotic for sooo many years is such a different, scary, and painful experience that oftentimes we (addicts/ recovering or otherwise) don't know how to deal with it... we think that it's bad... I haven't had a real headache in 4 years because of my addiction... and now I have a slight headache everyday as I'm am gradually coming back into myself... my body... ME... WITHOUT HIDING BEHIND THE OPIATES!!

Good luck to all... try to remember that there are ssooooooo many of us out there and DEFINITELY keep busy... that has def. been my tool for making the transition work!!!
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If I could have detoxed off the drugs I was taking originally I would have. It was the worst thing in the world for me to have to withdraw from opiates. Eventually I found methadone which solved my problem for the most part. I am back to normal working and not using. I have to drink a dose of methadone every morning from my frig. but big deal, its nothing. I may detox someday but thats up to me. If I stay on it, its no big deal. It works and thats it. I couldn't care less what others think about it. Its my life so I run it and I'm just fine. take care, rodney
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I was on heroin, then moved to methadone, and finally off to suboxone. I have jumped off at 4 mg, and it doesn't surprise me of the chills and awkwardness, but I'm fine, and taking care of my 2 year old and attending school. Yeah it does drag a little, but I do agree people whine,.... but some ppl are just whiny and some have lower tolerance to pain. Thank god for my blessings. On day 4. Long term drug use, and ten times withdrawing from heroin, suboxone..
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I've been on suboxone two years this time on 16mg
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TO LONG TIMER

obviously you have never ben addicted to any kind of opiate and your talking out of your ass I have literally been through more opiate detox and relapse than I can remember and anyone who has experienced this will tell you that exercise and movement is the 2nd best thing you can do for yourself during withdraw right under winning the mental battle with your withdraw symptoms.

Definition of endorphin-an endogenous opiate peptide manufactured in the brain acting as a neurotransmitter in the brain. Produces feeling of happiness and well being.

 FACT!!!! opiate abuse/addiction will cause your body to stop producing endorphins naturally because you are introducing substantial quantities of an artificial version of the neurotransmitter(endorphins) similar to the way long term steroid(testosterone) use will cause a mans testicles to shrink because the testicles have stopped manufacturing the natural testosterone for a man since he is introducing large amounts of an artificial version of the hormone(testosterone)

Fact!!! exercise causes the body to produce the neurotransmitter endorphin naturally

FACT!!! while in opiate withdraw/detox the body/brain is without the artificially introduced endorphin(narcotic opiate) that it has adapted to. Because you have trained your brain to stop naturally producing the chemical the person becomes depleted of all endorphins natural and artificial causing the nervous system goes into shock(withdraw) and beg(crave) for the high level of endorphins it has adapted to

the only way to recover from detox is to get your body to start manufacturing endorphins again naturally. One of the best ways to do this is through exercise. I know this from my own experience. Also anything that you can remember making you happy before the drugs will help in the same way Example: listen to music, watch an inspirational movie, EXERCISE, sex, money. It all works on the same principle you need to stimulate your body into producing the neurotransmitter naturally again if you want to recover. TRUST me laying in bed will only make it worse.

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How are u now? I identify sooo much. Would like to talk.
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these are old post I got that by the dates. but I will say narcotic use or any drugs cocain china white angel dust crack meth peyote cactus all drugs kills babies in these classes heroin PCP Maryjane. if you are pregnant stop using you are killing your kid this comment is for all woman out there who got knocked up. if you are a addict you may use birth control pills and have your man use a rubber if he wants to bang you ladies. its that or he stayes turned on. its that simple. its he uses condoms or he does not blow his nuts. I am a man and if I wish to get laid I always use condoms I do not want kids. sex to me is not worth 18 years of child support and other responsibilities. at least I am man enough to know this and wont leave a unwanted child out there without a father. I like sex with lots of ladies. but I am safe. to damn many men get the lady knocked up and walk away. it is not fair to the young lady. for god sakes she gave up her ass to the man. the man needs to be fair about it and responsible. we are humans not like dogs do the nasty nasty then move on. we are not animals. we are suppose to be classy people. we need to act like it. any fool with a pecker can make a baby. but it takes a man to raise his off spring.
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