Suboxone withdrawl...any natural thing I can do to avoid it?

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. I was at 8mgs of Suboxone for the average part of 16 months. Decided it was time to kick Subs, they helped get life back in order. After awhile however I decided that I was done. I slept with the help of Benzos (Aka valium, xanax, Clonipin, ativan) Aswell as some seroquel 1mg benzo and 50mg Seroquel. However on the 6 day nothing helped for sleep. Suboxone is a new drug for the market. If you are fine with staying on a drug for the remainder of your life then Suboxone is the one. Me however I just don't like being dependent/addicted to anything. Suboxone is a whole new kind of w/d for me. Oxys and Vicodin were nothing. Heroin is a better option too. My worst by far has been Methadone, however Suboxone comes in a close second. After day 6 I had to combine sleep meds with this new stuff (for me) Neurontin, is about the closest to feeling normal I have been thru my Suboxone wds. I don't really care for Benzos cause well those w/ds are just as bad as a hard opiate kick and just as long as methadone and suboxone depending on length of use. Withdrawals are withdrawals, no avoiding. I have tried tapering and about the best taper was one of my first attempts to kick opiates and that was going from H to Oxy to vics then to nothing. That was about a month long process. Almost went to sleep the whole night my first nite. However if you are an addict and not in some recovery based program you really just are probably not going to make it. And that time I didnt. Suboxone will get your life back together, then slowly let you crumble. After 16 months of use, I started convincing myself more and more after learning more and more that I was sober, but I am not kidding anyone. There are alot of people that say they don't feel a thing when they take Suboxone, to me they are full of sh*t. After 3-5 months of being on Suboxone I was getting a energetic high off them every time I took it. It reminds me more of how opiates were when I started them 14 years ago. And every time I went out on them. If you are lucky enough to read this before you get on Suboxone, my suggestion would be to take Suboxone as little as possible and get off it as quick as possible (2 weeks max). I have seen bad heroin addicts be almost normal with the help of Clonidine in about 2 weeks. All normal meaning is that you can work and sleep. lol. Suboxone is like putting a band aid on a river to stop the flow. It only works for so long until you figure out how to nod on it (not mentioning that how to). My best option would be quit and get to f*****g recovery fast man. . . do what they tell you and make some friends. Cause opiate addiction is a mofa.

I have been on subs now for 3 years taking max four a day and left some crappy docs behind and started with new doc but I make to much money to get help but I found here to help program that paid for my subs for 1year after this past year ending feb 18th 2011 I was on 3 subs and my last sub i took was sunday feb 27th and this is day 4 for me I started cramps today but its been light with everything else I can not wait to be done with this evil freaking drug I almost lost my life, family, and job over it all and because of a freaking tooth ache. GOOOD LUCK everyone i hope the best for you all I made up my mind and it says DONE middle finger to subs and there makers for almost killing my life........................................................................

I'm recently coming off subs. I have been on them for over a year taking four a day also. Its been about a week and a half and already I feel better. I had to do it cold turkey. But the only way I am doing it is support from friends and family. I was taking about a zantac a day and just laying on the couch. One tip that really helps for sleep is chammomile tea. I started drinking a cup right before bed and sleep awesome. But good luck to everyone coming off them. Mentally it is the worst. But I believe if we keep up the good work, It WILL pay off.

Sadly it is nice to find this forum. Im am taking 1mg of Sub. a day and thought the withdraws wouldn't be too bad because i am taking such a low dose. Wrong. I have been taking for about a year now and until recently i thought it was a great thing, I feel now that I have maybe postponed a potentially worst WD for a whole year. Why do I feel like i am going into withdrawals by the end of the day? I know the Sub. has a 3 day half life but that is not what my body is telling me. anyways thanks for the posts. Hang in there everyone

I have been detoxing off of about 1 mg of suboxone now for four or five days without any...it has been really rough...i work double shifts waiting tables...ten hours on my feet...i had a few days off and thought i had this licked....it is next to immpossible to perform my work duties for more than a few hours without feeling like i am about to fall out...i took subs for almost two years and weened down to about one mg over a one month period before stopping completely...my advise to anyone out there that feels like they could not handle being "dope sick" for a few days because of the severity of the  symptoms i suggest you suck it  up because if you  use methadone or suboxone for any  extended period amount of time your withdrawl which you could have ended in three or four days will last for two weeks...and the part that makes most of us relapse and use opiates again is our stamina to handle withdrawl symptoms...if they only last for a few days you might make it...good luck

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It is inspiring reading this post, most of what I read online is that is a nitemare! I have never had a dependency on pills/opieds/etc but started taking subs cuz all my friends had them and honestly it gave me a buzz whichi liked. Its now been several months and I need to stop. I was scared to death of how I am going to feel and I am going to taker my last 2(8mgs) and streect them out over 4-5 days, maybe try to skip a day inbetween and take nothing that day, followed by a quarter or a half. Alot of my friends have been to rehab for H and are prescribes subs. If anyone has any advice or suggestions the best way to come off this s**t please let me know. Ive been taking roughly 1 a day for a while now, but I am not going to waste my $$ on it anymore. Im just nervous what is going to happen next. My plan is just suck it up and rough it out for however long the misery is going to last.

i just ran out of buprenorphine

I had fairly good luck coming off subs taking one 1mg every other day for two weeks and taking .5mg of xanax twice a day on the days i did not take sub. a long with the usual fish oil, vitamin C, etc. I have only been on sub for 6 months. Prior to this i was on methadone for 5 years. WD from sub is unpleasant but IMO does not even compare to WD from methadone. I have been clean from opiates for a year on may 12 2011. The worst part, for me at least was after WD, and it still feels like what is the point of being sober? Through all of this i decided there just isn't much benefit to being off subs.But i keep gutting it out.Good luck everyone.

To all,

this is my first reply to all of the blogs and sites that I have read which is numerous.  I must metnion that my choice was Vicodin or Perc's whatever I could get and as much as I could handle, boy it was bad news.  I orgnially convinced my self I needed it for pain but later it was I just needed!!  I started taking Subs and everything on the market was to driven towards dont deal with the WD's from Opiate.  I am a business guy and I do very well, no one knows about my issue and I am on day 8 cold turkey after taking between 24-32mgs a day of Subxe.  My supply dried up and I am to proud to go to a doctor as everyone in my life will find out.  I did this to myself and I will fix it and get out of it. What has been key for me is my diet and hydration and exercise.  I have been almost like starving myself for a week now partly because I have no appetite and drininking as much water as my body can handle everyday.  I am flushing my system trying to elimate the recptors attached to my brain to block opiate.  Also key is getting through the half life, that means when at least 50% of the drug is out of your system.  It is differnet for everyone, but most important MENTAL, you have to stay mentality strong and stay positive.  I always say to myself, if you people can do it, SO CAN I.  I know if sounds arrogant but guess what this is a fight and anyone who tells you that it has nothing to do about will power is full of it and has never dealt with something as hard as we all have.  Listen the water and hyrdation is key, it will help to reduce the tired feeling you have, also the sleep thing will take time, I am dead tired, cant hold my eyes open b/t 7-9 I go to bed at 10:30 and 11:30 I am tossing and turning, I calm myself downa dn tell myself that this is part of the process, be patient, we all abused for years did we think it would get better in 2 days.  Punish yourselves kick your own ass, next time you want to put a pill in your mouth you will laugh and say no thanks.

The only otjher thing that is messing with me a bit are the funky smells that are eminating from my body.  I take care of myself and shower twcie a day but on my hands, I get this aweful smell almost like a metal, this ia nother reason why I am drinking water galore to get trid iof the smellls.  Over all I feel better but still have WD's but each day does get a bit easier,in some way or shape.  Hang everyone, I am really excited to have my life back and not be beholden to a chemical.  I just want it back to my copllege days when I could go out and drink a ton of beer and really enjoy myself and then not do it again for another week until the weekend comes.   Oh yeah I almost forgot, take 1000 mgs of L - Tyrosine, it is an amino acid that helps to brain and neverous functions, it will help your brain to bridge the gap between with the receptors as they are broken right now and need to be fixed.

 

HANG TIGHT AND STAY STRONG EVERYONE!!        

I'm currently coming off Saboxone, today is my 4th day. My dr would take me down so on my own I went from taking 2 full 8mg strips a day down to 1 for a month then down to half a one a day for 2 weeks then cutting 1 8mg into fours for a week. It has been rough for sure but not as bad as coming off oxy's. No sleep tossing and turning restless legs tingling skin lower back is killing me. I have tremadol for my neck and flexural that I take during work to get through that. I feel like a crack head but it is a litle better today than it was yesterday. The real struggle for people is the sleep!! The restless misseravke sleep really effects your day and makes it impossible tohave a good day. I have a 7 month old son so that keeps me going I even have 25 Saboxone left but refuse to take it. I wanted some left incase I mess up at some point.

I used Suboxine for about 5 years.  Here is a hint for you all trying to detox off of it....  There is no physical reason to use more than 8 mg ever after the first two weeks of being on it.  It will not make any difference if you use 8mg or 2mg.  It only makes it MUCH harder to detox off.  Keep slowly tapering down.  Im talking about really really slowly cutting down.  Not every two weeks going lower but perhaps going from 2mg to 1mg over a two month period.  Then going from 1mg to 1/2 mg over a two month period.  Do this until you are literally taking 1/2 mg and feeling ok.  If you taper too quickly you will feel slightly bad and feel like you need more.  The very slow taper is the key to successful dtox.  Once you are able to taper a little bit more then that is the best time to quit.  Don't take any except at night take a tiny tiny bit.  Im talking a few crumbs. Its mostly for mental reasons.  And taking a small miniscule amount sort of helps with sleep......sort of!! Over the next week try not using any at all.  You should only feel a little bad for about 3 days.  Overall don't try going from 2mgs + to cold turkey....it won't work well.  You have to get down to at least 1/2 mg then go cold.  I've detoxed off sub's twice and both times I've been totally cool with it.  Sleep is the only real issue and to fix that take antihistamines like benedryl.  I had no sweats or chills.  For help I used vitamins, and joint pills (glucosamine) and advil.  I was a H addict so I know what WD is truely like and I can tell you the super slow taper off subs is the key.  Good luck everyone :)  Hope it helps.      

kratom...it's and herb look it up..the bali helps with withdrwals from opiates.

I am 22, I was on Sub's for 2 years. I started out at 8mg a day and just went slowly down to 2mg's a day for a long time. After waking up every morning feeling awful and needing the Sub to make me feel normal, I got tired of it. I just wanted to be my old self again, and have natural energy. So I did some research online, and found a doctor on youtube; he was giving mega doses of vitamin C to Heroine addicts. All the patients that were slowly going up on doses of vitamin c would have less withdrawal pains.So I went to walmart, Bought 1,000 mg's immune health vitamin c and started to take 1 a day for 2 days, then 2 a day for 2 days, then 3 for 2 then 4 for 2 then 5 for 2. It did help out for me. I stopped Sub on September 14th. I was doing 2mg's a day. today Is my 19th day off of them, and I have slowly lowered back down to 1 Vitamin c a day. My natural energy and old self is slowly coming back. Also on the 9th day I started to take Benzo's to help with the sleep, I am no longer on those either. you just have got to make sure you eat protein, fruit etc... drink lots of %100 grape juice, take green tea pills, stay active, laugh a lot and pray. I am not a doctor and I do not recommend this. I just wanted you guys to know that their is ppl out there who has done it. Good luck guys.

Lol I've done that a few times.

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