great article thank you. I hate suboxone and it's ruining my life, i may give this a try. My brother used kratom another withdrawal preventer but it caused some delusional thoughts so nothing seems perfect. im happy you're off great job man
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I was on hydros for 9 years, 4 years on sub, and stopped sub 3 months ago... I went onto morphine for 5 weeks and then cold turkey. It sucked. I'm still clean 2 months later. However, I do think that a super low dose (like .5 mg) of sub for 4-5 days would've helped when I went back off the morphine. That's the way suboxone should really be used - short-term transition off of other opiates. Suboxone is SOOOOOO much stronger than hydros/percs/morphine, etc... BEWARE! These sub docs have no idea what they're doing or the long-term effects on your brain & body. Good luck getting off it all!
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good article about getting off those damn strips. i was on them for a year started at 8 went to half the last 4 months. after that 2mgs for a while then 1mg for about 10 days. i used 4 vicodin 5/500 the 1st day and otc meds for sleep and i started walking as much as i could to tire me out so the rls aint bad. 3 the next day. then 2 then 1. then i would take adderall to get me going in the am. i would jog on the track & play basketball. after about 4 more days of adderal in the am and benzo at nite i switch to b12 & tyrosine in the am and trazadone at nite. i kicked a 10-12 a day 30 bomb habit at detox. that was pure hell. this is a joke compaired to that. so dont believe these people when they say suboxone is harder to kick than oxy. it is 100% B.S. suboxone is a lifesaver. it gets you halfway back to normal if you let it. you'll know when your ready to quit. when the benefits of being off sub outweigh the benifits of being on sub.
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Its unfortunate to see anyone suggesting that someone take pain medicine when they are trying to get clean. suboxone is good and healing and does its job. If that treatment works for you, good. But you shouldnt suggest to others a pain pill regimen.
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exactly. who ever took vicodin 5's to get high anyway? maybe in the begining, but we all graduated to bigger(actually smaller) pills.
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Hello all - Don't we all wish we could go back to the days of getting a p 512 and feeling on top of the world? I know I do! This is just MHO & experiences... Ultimately, although it seems rediculous, I think you shld get back on something stupid like perc 5's and try to do as little as possible as the original poster said. Then wean for 4 days. Will it work? IDK and this is why...
I've done perc's, oxy's, dope, morphene, methadone and soboxone. Actually I'd even love some dones right now or dope but I have been refraining for yrs. My actual DOC is straight oxycodone. While sniffing oxycodone for a yr or 2, then going to oxycontin, I just cldnt afford and didn't want "the life" anymore. Looking back now, I actually used to always be on for a couple wks then off. So, I've gone through oxy/perc/oxycontin withdrawl countless times. Mostly intentionally b/c paranoid about having a habit which looking back on I had anyways but kicked each time but simetimes involuntarily w/no loot or connects out. Prob kicked (a bit) easier b/c of not doing it every day for months or yrs. I wld just get stoned, take cloney's, adderral or xany's even drink for a few days which I don't usually do and I was alright. Don't get me wrong some times I'd use for a couple mos straight but always forced myself not to get too roped in, so I thought.
I started going to the clinic after never taking methadone, even when sick & cld get it, just b/c I thought it would be digging me in deeper. Then I went through some shitty personal times, lost a great job that I had for 4 yrs, BF of 4 yrs, apartment, car, etc. As usual I went into who gives a f**k mode. Which is when I just want to get screwed up w/out any cares like I previously had. I started going to the methadone clinic b/c it was a free high! I knew what I was getting myself into w/that fully though. While I was going, since I already "stooped" (in my mind) to methadone, then sh*t, why not just get some H. So I did both every day. Ultimately, I had to WD from noth together but had only been on them for a few mos straight. That was a terrible WD way worse than perc's/oxys/OC/OP. Again, thats considering it was only a few mos but of using a sh*t load. So, I can only imagine longer.
Since then I started using street sobo. My life improved and went back to my "normal" aside from taking sobo obviously. However, I had no idea of all I know now about it. I shoulda looked into it more. Had I known what I do now, I woulda never started taking it this long. However, even after I guess about 2 yrs of sobo use (only need 2 MG day & cld prob get by w less & thats what I've always used). A bit off topic but FYI - I've taken dones or oxys whatever the same day as taking that amount of sobo in the morn. and you CAN feel it, not as much as u wld when sobo wears off... but still enough as to where I've done it a few times so its worth it. If you take more sobo then it prob won't work at all though. Even when the sobo is out of my system, I pop 80 MG of OP (oxy), after very rarely using "real opiates" for 2 yrs+ and I don't even get that energy or the feeling I loved so much. Therefore, there's no point anymore. IDK how much I wld need but I know I'm not gna waste all my $ chasing something that will never fully satisfy. I'm positive I don't wanna get in deeper w H or dones even though I know those wld still f**k me up w (relatively) small amounts used.
So, at this end of the shortest version of my experiences which is still long as hell SORRY LOL, comes my real point of writing. Aside from giving an additional perspective, I decided one day that I don't want to be on ANYTHING anymore. When that happens to me, that means I have the willpower to quit based on previous experiences. I wanna stop taking sobo and take oxy's as the original poster suggested. I know 1st hand, sobo WD is WAAAY worse than Oxy WD so I thought, I've been through that countless times so I got everything OTC possible after taking OP's for only two wks. You're body can tell when the sobo is out b/c you get WD in the morn pretty early off Oxycontin/OP's, its a diff feeling from waking up on sobo. I used the last OP Thurs. and took tiny piece of sobo late Fri night. I'm gonna try and do this sobo for four days and I'll let you all know if this sh*t truly works short term like that. God Bless!
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Good luck! I feel ya - I've been off sub for 3 mos and morphine for 2 after 4 years of 4 mg Sub and 10 yrs of hydros prior.
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You are a f*****g id**t please no one listen to this dumbass they have no idea what they are talking about. Taper down on suboxone like I did and you will have no withdrawals 8mg to 6mg to 4mg to 2mg to 1mg to 1mg every other day to 1 mg every 3 days then you can quit taking it and have no trouble obviously stay on each tapered dose at least 1 to 2 weeks. Don't use other opiates again it is not smart you will go in to addiction again. Someone please smack the sh*t out of the dumbass that posted this original post.
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RE: GUEST - Thanks! Yes, you can taper down and down w/sobo over the course of an extremely long time. Have you done that successfully and now off everything? Just curious b/c you still get WD's that are tolerable but extremely defeating w/ day-to-day challenges. Like having the energy to even do what you need to for the day. To go through that for 6 mos isn't my preference. Anyone on any other drug should use sobo for a wk tops and be fine. Anyone who used longer, It really depends on the person. I didn't feel like spending all that recovery time vs just switching and riding it out for a few days w limited sub use. Thanks for the insults. If it was that easy to taper, all these posts wouldn't exsist. People wouldn't feel so screwed who have been on sub for years. Glad it worked for you though, possibly. God bless!
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Hi there, i was an avid opiate abuser and was taking morphine and norxo, finally habe had enuff and went and got on suboxone, it has liyerally saved my life, NOW... its only been a month but i feel great and now want tonstop the suboxone, i had NO idea it is going to be hard to get off that! Seems like a vicious cycle... i would love to chat w u or speak w u by phone... if u would like look m,e up amd ill see what kind of tips and other vitamins that will help alao. BEST OF LUCK! Hang in there, we are all on the same boat :)
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you might want to try the subsux website with tons of posts on how to taper, get off of the Sub.
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