The secret to getting off Suboxone is:

Yes, I go back and forth between sub and OP's... I only take 1 mg most days when do sub. Been doing it for a couple yrs + but past 6 mos been taking 2 wk breaks with OP's :)

Getting off the op was more intense for me but it only last 4 days so it was way easier?

#16took ahalf of a tramadol to sleep, slept 4 hours. I waited till 4 in the morning to take it and now super tired but have lots to do. My energy has come back alittle so I hope the little sleep thing doesn't effect me much today. 

Thats cool. Yah OP or OC WD for me has always been way easier. IDK what Ill end up doing. Ive been looking into Kratom. You ever try it. Best of luck and awesome progress! Hope today goes well for you!

Thanks I know it will days have been good. It's the nights not being able tosleep that suck. 

I've never tried kratom. Read a little about it, it's supposed to work differently for everyone. Everything scares me any more I can't even take excedrin without feeling bad. 

Yah I can totally understand that! When Im sober, Im the same way. Thought you may have tried it before you quit. Well it sounds like you've gotten everything OTC possible. It must be helping you along. At least the days are ok for work or just getting sh*t done. I know not slepping makes the day a bit tougher. Its tough

#17 couldn't sleep took 1/2 tramadol. Woke up okay low energy went to work. Worked about 4 hours then took 5 mg perk. I feel like cause I'm taking one every once inawhile I'm not making progress. I'm now home andtired . I don't care if I can't sleep I'm not taking anything that isn't natural. I have the next 2 days off and a giant $50 bottle of detoxifer I'm going to hopefully ride it out. I'm getting better but the progress is so small day by day it's hardly noticeable. I want some kind of energy and sleep right now! 

# 18 I drank the detoxifier got a headache and my stomach is hurting a bit but I slept 9 hours on my own with no chemical help! It was amazing. 

Day 3 without subs after a year of 2mg/day, except, I'm cheating and using oxy (30's broken into 7.5mg pieces) and using a piece here and a piece there to curb the wd's.  Like the OP, I want to get the subs out of my system then use it only for a couple days to curb whatever wd is left after the oxy's.  Some people may call it stupid...I am going to try it first before I make that judgement.  I'll keep you posted.

The smaller the better. I went to a different doctor and told them what was going on and they gave me a small op to help withdrawals. If you keep stepping down you might not even need to get back on subs. Also thedetoxifiers from GNC  seem to help a lot. The first one I took was a 7 day pill pack and after I was done the stomach ach stopped. I drank a liquid one yesterday and slept like a baby for the first time in weeks. Good luck I hope everything works out. 

As the day goes on I am feeling better as far as my head fog it's coming and going now. Still no energy and it feels like my body doesn't want to move. Like I'm a blob of jello. 

#19 no sleep again. Took half a tramadol got 4 hours. I'm still having bad Rls is this normal? I don't know what to do. I'm going back to the jerk doctor that gave me the devil suboxone today. I have to work tomorrow and I don't know if I can do it I'm so tired at night butcan't sleep when I try. I read alive worked but it didn't. I don't want to do this anymore I can't take it!

Stay strong! Yes you should go to A doctor. They can prescribe something for RLS or sleep, etc. Theres no shame in taking meds that arent addictive. Thats what they are there for!

So went to the sub doc he turned me away cause he doesn't accept my insurance and I'm broke cause I missed so much work. Afterthat went to a regular doctor and they looked at me like I was nuts and gave me the number to a hospital that treats addiction. Called them up and good news I'm not having withdrawals from suboxone cause there islittle to no withdrawals from suboxone and I should just go to a regular doctor! These people don't know anything I chased my tail for 3 hours for nothing. I guess I'm just riding it out again. I am getting better but man it takes so long!

HI There - What do you mean there's little to no WD's from soboxone? You're lucky the sub doc turned you away!

I'm going to try also starting the 1st.. I'm so nervous but SO ready! Iv been on 8mlg for almost a year down from 16 mlg.. What do you think about exchanging numbers so we can keep n touch about how our days are going.. my name is Samantha btw..:)