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Hey M...

did you go to the Doctor yet man?

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Hi Under, I didn't go yet but I'm going to ring soon and book an appointment. I'll let you know as soon as I do book it and I ll let you know how it goes. I hope to book it in the next 2 weeks but I'm not working at the moment and money is tight. I know exactly how you're feeling and how frustrating this situation is, it is so so -hit. I was thinking if he sends me for blood tests and nothing sticks out the rest of us should get the same tests. Reason is cause I'm in or around 85% better whatever is causing this may not show up and if you're at say 60% it may show up quicker with you or someone else here, but we'll wait and see what he says first. I do think that the whey sets off a reaction in the body and some hormone or chemical is been released out of control by immune system and is causing low libido, cause why does it take so -ucking long to recover?? Take it easy, try not to let it do your head in but I know it's easier said than done, I'll talk to you later M
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Hey M. Sorry to hear your having money problems. It's alright, just take your time. Im not trying to rush you to go to the doctor im just really pissed off. Today I was talking to some of my freinds and they were talking about girls and sex and all that guy stuff. I litterally had to fake everything that I was saying... And also if I ever get into a situation were im about to have sex. What the hell am I supposed to do? That's so embarrassing... But whatever... Also I wanted to ask you, why am I not feeling any better? This has been going on for over a year and I haven't improved yet. You guys keep saying that you feel "this %" better... I can't put a percentage on because I don't feel better at all. Is there any reason why Im not getting better? And I also wanted to ask... I know we probably covered this. But there's no sensitivity in my penis... Like when I masturbate there's no pleasure sensation. And I don't orgasm when I ejaculate... Is this happening to you also?
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Hi under, it takes ages and ages to recover from this. First time it took me 2yrs 5 months to get to 95% until I got cut off again and after that it was a slow slow process only making small improvements now and then, you're going to have to wait, if its a year since your last protein shake it could take a few months or longer before you notice a difference. Also the first time it was only after about 2 yrs that I noticed any change/improvement. With me it was like down below was semi numb, like your not connected to your tackle and that still happens a bit now and then, I did orgasm when I ejaculated but it would nt have been as good if situation was back to normal or if it never happened cause as you know you loose sexual excitement too. However I did loose musculature and vasculinity down below but it did return after a long time. One of the other guys maybe Pete had that also what you're talking about no orgasm sensation. If you're out on a night out and the opportunity arises to have sex you could use viagra but I would nt do it too often as you need to keep your diet clean at the moment. Don't get cheap bootleg stuff cause you don't know what's in it and it could make things worse, go and get a prescription and get proper stuff from Pfizer. Only do this very seldom cause you need to come around naturally. Keep your diet free from whey powder in processed food and watch cheese, a lot of it now has whey and oil in it and they don't write it on the packet.
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hello im part of the club, the first thing to do is an hormone test and pituitary gland test or a MRI, it can hypogonadism.check all the hormones not only the testosterone

i also suggest to slow down the workout,  because things like overtraining affect the testosterone, and believe in your self cause there is no woman which will support you deeply in the fall, being a man is not only being good in the bed: I have been always a bull, zero problems and amazing performance and now I'm here needing help, and it's the moment im left alone. No problem what doesnt kill you will make you stronger.

I will try to do all the test ASAP and let you know

i have been taking whey for 5 years, but although I noticed a slow down in the libido, which was actually helping me to keep going for 1 hr without stopping to come, I never had ED til few weeks ago when it was pretty bad. For the kid going to college, for Christ sake go to a doctor! You are ruining your life and maybe the solution is close! Don't give up!

this thing opened my eyes....but this part will explain to you later

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Hi Under, hi Vendetta, I've booked the appointment, this Wednesday 4th at 1pm. Under dont get your hopes up yet cause I've gone to regular doctors and they don't have a clue but this place deals with ED and might be able to figure out what's going on. Under vendetta is right, I was going to say it to you earlier, you need to go to an ED doctor and get checked cause as I was saying earlier if you're at 50% it will show quicker in a blood test, I had testosterone checked before and it was ok and as I said earlier I think the whey makes your body go into some kind of state where you release some hormone or chemical which stops erection power and we have to discover what it is. The more of us that go to doctors or specialists and get blood tests the better chance we have of finding out, some doctors or better than others and a doctor that someone else goes to just might figure it out where another doctor might not. I'll let you all know how it goes on Wednesday, chat you later
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Hi all, Went to the ED doc today and he basically said an erection is wiring and plumbing. Signals from the brain to penis and blood flows in blah blah. Told him all about whey and he said well there's no study on that and it would be very difficult to find out what's going on. He ordered blood test on testosterone, DHT which I had already and was ok, he's testing estrogen, I then mentioned homocysteine what Adrian was talking about, then he said he'd test that too and I told him how my glands in neck swell and redness in throat so he said he'd test for pro inflamitory proteins which can also have an effect on libido as well as kidney and liver function which I had done before and was ok so all in all was not a good result as I was hoping that him been an ED doctor might have an answer straight off. I also spoke to him about THF alpha which can be present with inflamation and decreases libido but he said its only present with arthritus etc and you'd be very sick if you had it. I think with this situation you need to think outside the box, he said the hospital where I'm supposed to have the tests can't do it but I think that's bull_hit and I'm going to go to regular doctor and see about getting that done. As I said before most doctors are c**p and if what you have isn't in their diagnosis book they have no time for you. I'm not getting tests done for another 2 weeks and then results will be 10 days after that. And afterwards I m going to go for TNF alpha test, then after that more research and if I can't come up with anything else I ll donate blood again. He also mentioned getting injections for getting proper erections which I didn't want but I am nearly better anyway. Under and everyone else can you go to an ED doc too and see if you can get a result?? It has to be some hormone or chemical that STOPS erection not low levels of hormones unless it turns out that either pro inflamitory proteins or homocysteine is the culprit, something has to show in a blood test cause the level of ed whey can cause is too severe so everyone get testing. Prolactin is another one that causes low libido, years ago mine was slightly high but that may have been from medication I was taking at the time, must test it again. Has anyone any suggestions??
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Check out cytokines which are part of the pro inflammatory proteins. We need to get cytokines panel test done.
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Hey my test results came out:

blood check Ok just little bit low red cell of my blood but still within the range

my blood pressure is low and as well it took me a while on the cardio to reach the heart beat necessary to complete the test...they said is normal for athletes

testosterone is low but within the limits, free testosterone is very low, growth hormone is low and insulin is damn low. Other hormones are good.

amazing thing I started holidays and my ED disappeared, and I had regular sex even twice a day with no problems except it take me a lot of time to finish.

it Has been a while without supplements and whey protein and my body before a short period shrinkage it started to grow and get in shape, 6 pack included.

funny thing is the doctor said the low testosterone shows with fatigue, low performance in sport, ED, and easy fat gain.

im not showing these symptoms..except for a short period when also I had ED.

I'm very confused because is asking now to do more check but this is 700USD each time! 

Its not like I feel super libido or turned on, but when provocated my body react immediately and I don't feel numb at all.

not sure what to do and if I should continue with the test, 700USD for more hormone check and 1500USF full body MRI.

the there is other....

gosh

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Hi Vendetta. I'm just wondering, what do mean when you say you feel "numb"? What exactly do you mean by that?
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Means the brain doesn't trigger the excitement and the touching there doesn't send signal to the brain, like if the connection brain and penis is lost.
Strange cause it happens really randomly. I noticed in the morning happens more often than at night and I was thinking that maybe it's because when I wake up with an erection it's already in that status not because of the excitement but because the morning nata erection.
Another point is the orgasm in these situation are damn weak, not strong feeling and not from testicles.
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Sharing my experince
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Nitro-tech can cause some side effects such as increased bowel movements, nausea, thirst, bloating, cramps, reduced appetite, tiredness (fatigue), looses the erection and headache.

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how old are u n for how long u used it
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Hi Under, how are you? Any improvements at all yet?? Pete, B, Vendetta, how are you getting on??
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