this is very moving to me..im am trying to detox myself from subutex..it has been very hard and i keep going back to them because i just cant find the strength to stay away from them...i hope i can take what u have said and apply it to my daily life and get my life back
Day 14 of No Subutex! Jumped off @ 2mg/day after taking up to 24mg/day for nearly two years. Walked down from 16mg/day over two months ... a little less each week. (I am a 6'1", 230 lb male.) Didn't really bother me until I was down to just 2mg/day and then (obvioiusly) when I jumped off completely. In case you're curious, I went on Suboxone/Subutex after a 5 year love affair with Vicodin (all under doctor supervision). Used it to help me feel cheery and feel like a "super" version of myself. Looking back, I should've just asked for help getting off the Vics. Anyway, can't do anything about that now but MOVE ON from all this.
To THANKGOD: Thank you again for your story. You have given me something to "shoot for" each and every day of this journey. The coolest part of what you've done is given many people hope. God rewards that, and you will one day get to know EXACTLY how many people you helped (including myself). All these "thank you" notes are just bonus to the REAL DEAL. You couldn't help this many people had you not been through this whole ordeal. Stay focused on that: This time in your life CAN be used to help people, if you'll let Him work through you.
Final word: You don't hide a candle under a bowl. You put it on a lamp stand for all to see. Be that candle in your family. Don't believe the lie that you NEED this drug (unless you're in danger of harming yourself or others while not on it). It's hard, but worth it. Each day is getting better. Stop reading the negative stories, and focus on the positive. Like THANKGOD mentioned earlier, if you stay in bed all day and think about awful you feel, you will continue to feel miserable. Make up your mind to be done with drugs once and for all, and NEVER. GO. BACK.
God? some people are still living in ancient times...Am sorry but it's all in the head..No such thing as God...Educated intelligent people do not believe in God...You think it helps but it's all in your head...Its pshycological..If you want to believe something you will, and it will make it look God is the savior, while all the time it's all in your mind..
Lucky am I who, lives in a country where my right to choose a religion or spiritual advisor, is one of my own personal choice. Me personally, I am a Spiritual person who pays homage to a personal God of my understanding. Subutex came late into my life after many years of being sober and drug free. I had done many of the exercises to repair the damage to myself and my family and was living a noteworthy life. Like many others, I had several sugeries that resulted in debilitating neropothy. Then addicted to opiods, I found a treatment center to transition me to the Suboxone to atleast reduce the havock in my life and the chronic nerve pain. I am now going through cancer treatment and chemo therepy. I continue a low dose regime of the Suboxone and am in regular attendence at the Fellowship that helped me find a God thet I could trust on a daily basis to walk me through each day as it comes. You of course are free not to have a Power Greater than yourself in your life. The kindest thing I can do is offer you a Blesing and go about my merry way. Peace be wit you.
Im on week 4 now and if it wasnt for God I would not have made it this far. I dont know how many times I wanted to call my old Dr. and God helped me press through.
If it wasnt for the extensively long withdrawl people would learn their lesson. For everyone out there if you can hold tough through the first 4-5 days you will see a huge improvement. That alone can give you the light you need to see to press through the last few weeks.
Melatonin helps with sleep a little bit. It helps replace the seratonin (sorry spelling) levels in brain that help sedate you to sleep. You can take up to 15mg a day/per Dr. but start out 3-4 1mg tablets.
Bananas help with restless leg syndrome.
Fish Oil and Omega 3's help with brain stimulation.
L-Carnitine 500mg help with your low amino acids you are robbed from Suboxone.
I have been off of subutex for 13 days now. I still toss and turn at night, and some nights are definately worse than others. If I take a benedryl on the bad nights, it seems to do the trick. My energy grows a little each day, but overall my body is still tired and sluggish feeling. I am finding though that I am more aware off what is going on, and I am appreciating everything a lot more. Over all my life becomes better and better each day that passes.
I am a 57 year old man. I' ve managed to wean off 6 years of subutex and took my last half mg a week ago. The day before I had my operation. It was bone removal in my hand and screws and pins put in and nerve damage repair. Very pa inful recovery still. Doctors only gave me 5/325 mg of Endocet. I was supposed to take no more than 4 a day but needed to double that to at least have some productive and at least bearable pain relief. I think the subutex is still in my brain receptors? Do you know anything about this? Did the Endocet take over the subutex? I am going to be able, I feel, to stop the Endocet in a couple more days, Already down to only 1 a day so after approx. 10 - 12 days of no subutex (in about 5 more days) and I guess I'll have a couple of day of no painkillers soon. I am in a fog. I have the runs alot. I still need my xanax which I've been on for 2 years 2 mgs a day which I've weaned down to one already. Also take 30 mgs. of temazepam for sleep for 20 years---started on ambien and switched to temazepam 10 years ago because doctor said it's less addictive than ambien. I am depressed and never want to leave the bed. I only go to doctors. I've a macular pucker and am losing vision, I have Hep C. I have crippling arthritis and need more major operations. Hence, more pain meds. When will the subutex leave me so I can have pain relief from the painkillers which I will no longer abuse. Can't sleep even when I take sleep pill. I am sinning in my thoughts again no matter how much I try to pray. I am like a zombie almost. Please advise. God help us all. But I wish Jesus would help me more. Am I selfish? Please God get me out of this so I can better serve You while still here on earth. HELP
Thanks Kim
Hood Rat Matt wrote:
Hi. I've been lurking...doing research on how to get off suboxone for a couple years now. After about 10 years of taking Rx pain pills (then later snorting heroin to save money), I was put on Suboxone. It served it's purpose, but I always felt like I was taking the easy way out. The Dr. put me on 20mg to start and I was pretty numb. Over the next year and a half, I stayed at that dose. I couldn't make it to the classes anymore, so I began to ration my pills and got down to 2mg/day quickly. THERE IS NO REASON TO BE ON SUPER HIGH DOSES OF SUBOXONE!! It was really easy to get down to a reasonable dose. I then began shaving a little off every couple weeks (use a razor). Whenever I'd feel shitty, I'd leave the dose where it was and use marijuana to supplement. Today, I'm on day 10 w/ no suboxone. The first few days were pretty rough, but I'm back at work. I feel sluggish, but I'm not miserable. I yawn and my stomach is pretty unsettled, but otherwise I'm feeling pretty positive.
The horror stories you here are usually from people who didn't taper down slow enough. If you can't ration out your own stuff, have someone else do it for you...whether a Dr. or just a trusted friend/family member. It's very possible to do without missing work (which was always my biggest concern. Get support from good people....the ones who are always there for you without judging.
I got married a couple months ago and my wife and I are expecting a baby girl in January. My wife quit Lexapro and alcohol cold turkey. There are more important things than yourself. My unborn daughter is my motivation, but if God, Satan, Yaweh, Allah, Jesus or your dead grandmother gives you strength...go with it.
Good luck to everyone
--Hood Rat Matt
Now over a month w/o suboxone. I feel great and don't think I'll ever need it again.
Thanks for posting this Hood Rat Matt---This really is a mess to have to go through--hope my end result is a good one--I'll throw a prayer up for you too.