This site is awesome, I feel connected to yall!
My feelings are this
- I want to smoke weed, but everytime I do I get too panicky
- I read that the chances of getting a heart attack are incresed 5 times in the first hour of smoking - uh oh paranoid of that thought - now I'll never smoke again - but I want to ...hmmmm search for new evidence oh yes here...that study was not on point...another doctor talked to that one and they both agreed its shaky, regardless...a major study was done a few years back with tens of thousands of more people and showed no link between death and weed...so heart attacks wouldnt even be a probelm
- I miss when I was 16-21 smoking weed, feeling high relaxed, now I can't achive that high
- oh well I am now in a 4 year relationship with an amazing and beautiful girl who hates weed and alchohol and has improved me, I'm loved up - looking at all my friends who smoke weed - they haven't had girls for over 5 years, so why do I want to smoke weed if thats not what I want
- yes, socially I feel like I'm missing out tempted to smoke again even though its on and off reactions....but you know what Im thinking?
Those people arn't really fun untill their on something
I'm in between wanting to smoke and saying---screw it..link pain to it
like screw it, Not even...I have nothing against weed smokers..I used to be all for it and yes sometimes I wish I can go back, but Im in a dilema...basically I'm deciding not to go back...looking at my life off weed...I got into a relationship thats fulfilling, moved out on my own, going for my goals, I'm healthy, energetic life is good!
Anyhow all you people are great and I feel connected to you...have an excellent day!
My feelings are this
- I want to smoke weed, but everytime I do I get too panicky
- I read that the chances of getting a heart attack are incresed 5 times in the first hour of smoking - uh oh paranoid of that thought - now I'll never smoke again - but I want to ...hmmmm search for new evidence oh yes here...that study was not on point...another doctor talked to that one and they both agreed its shaky, regardless...a major study was done a few years back with tens of thousands of more people and showed no link between death and weed...so heart attacks wouldnt even be a probelm
- I miss when I was 16-21 smoking weed, feeling high relaxed, now I can't achive that high
- oh well I am now in a 4 year relationship with an amazing and beautiful girl who hates weed and alchohol and has improved me, I'm loved up - looking at all my friends who smoke weed - they haven't had girls for over 5 years, so why do I want to smoke weed if thats not what I want
- yes, socially I feel like I'm missing out tempted to smoke again even though its on and off reactions....but you know what Im thinking?
Those people arn't really fun untill their on something
I'm in between wanting to smoke and saying---screw it..link pain to it
like screw it, Not even...I have nothing against weed smokers..I used to be all for it and yes sometimes I wish I can go back, but Im in a dilema...basically I'm deciding not to go back...looking at my life off weed...I got into a relationship thats fulfilling, moved out on my own, going for my goals, I'm healthy, energetic life is good!
Anyhow all you people are great and I feel connected to you...have an excellent day!
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Oh yeah, that thing I read about a heart attack on weed...that was from some anti drug scientology pamphlet.
It's like I want to smoke weed again, but I'm scared to. Then again I want to stop wanting to smoke weed...I just want to stop thinking about it.
I wouldn't mind being able to handel it down the line...but whatever...I've been doing well without it.
I read of a recent study of panick attacks linked to higher risk of stroke/heart attack - but the study was for older women - from 50-80 years old..not based on actual medical tests and funed by the same company that makes paxil.
It's like I want to smoke weed again, but I'm scared to. Then again I want to stop wanting to smoke weed...I just want to stop thinking about it.
I wouldn't mind being able to handel it down the line...but whatever...I've been doing well without it.
I read of a recent study of panick attacks linked to higher risk of stroke/heart attack - but the study was for older women - from 50-80 years old..not based on actual medical tests and funed by the same company that makes paxil.
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Absolutely do not take adderal to cope with anxiety. I took myself to the hosital yesterday because I experienced my first anxiety attack. Tonight I smoked marijuana nad had another anxiety attack. After tonight I am done with all chemicals and marijuana...even alcohol.
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Hey there... I experienced the exact same things as you.
I was a weed smoker for like 3-4 years and then at a christmas party for work I was rushed away in an ambulance because people thought I had a seizure because I just passed out all of a sudden. But before I passed out I had told my friend beside me that everything was started to feel weird and I thought something was happening to me ... I was very scared. (To note we had smoked a blunt before we went into this party).
So long story short... I tried smoking several times after this had happened and I had a few minor panic attacks and a couple major panic attacks. One panic attack was so bad I had to go down during a family party and ask my mother to come upstairs and eventually an ambulance was called because I become hyperventilating so bad I couldn't speak anymore and I thought I was having a heart attack because my heart was beating so fast against my chest.
After that one... I knew it was time to stop otherwise I would have panic attacks all the time.
After quitting the anxiety got to me pretty bad... Id be out for dinner with friends or family and I would start to get very nervous and be worried that Iwas going to pass out or have an episode that Id have to get up and leave and go outside for a walk or go outside with someone and have them talk me down.
Even at the gym I would start to feel the anxiety coming on so I would leave after only 15 minutes of being there because I was worried I was going to have a panic attack in the gym.
It was very hard for me to quit smoking as the luxury of the drug kept wanting me to come back (any weed smoker knows what Im talking about). Everyone around me including my best friends smoked on the regular... and not to mention I use to love getting high because everything was just better when I was stoned. I wouldn't think about problems such a girls or money... I would just be relaxed.
Its been about 10 months that I haven't smoked except for a time when I was vrey drunk and I decided to pull a couple of times off a joint. I was so drunk that I probably got high but I didnt realize it and ended up passing out eventually due to the drunkess.
I am always very tempted to light up a joint with my friends as they smoke all the time when we play soccer or go out to the clubs etc... but I have to remind myself that the panic attacks make it totally not worth it.
anyways... dont feel alone... I did at first but then I realized there are many people out there that suffer the same problem which made them have to quit. Life goes on and eventually you stop having the cravings for the drug itself... the hardest part is the fact that you can't fit into the social scene of smoking pot with your friends or girls and sh*t at parties... at least thats what I felt.
PeacE!
I was a weed smoker for like 3-4 years and then at a christmas party for work I was rushed away in an ambulance because people thought I had a seizure because I just passed out all of a sudden. But before I passed out I had told my friend beside me that everything was started to feel weird and I thought something was happening to me ... I was very scared. (To note we had smoked a blunt before we went into this party).
So long story short... I tried smoking several times after this had happened and I had a few minor panic attacks and a couple major panic attacks. One panic attack was so bad I had to go down during a family party and ask my mother to come upstairs and eventually an ambulance was called because I become hyperventilating so bad I couldn't speak anymore and I thought I was having a heart attack because my heart was beating so fast against my chest.
After that one... I knew it was time to stop otherwise I would have panic attacks all the time.
After quitting the anxiety got to me pretty bad... Id be out for dinner with friends or family and I would start to get very nervous and be worried that Iwas going to pass out or have an episode that Id have to get up and leave and go outside for a walk or go outside with someone and have them talk me down.
Even at the gym I would start to feel the anxiety coming on so I would leave after only 15 minutes of being there because I was worried I was going to have a panic attack in the gym.
It was very hard for me to quit smoking as the luxury of the drug kept wanting me to come back (any weed smoker knows what Im talking about). Everyone around me including my best friends smoked on the regular... and not to mention I use to love getting high because everything was just better when I was stoned. I wouldn't think about problems such a girls or money... I would just be relaxed.
Its been about 10 months that I haven't smoked except for a time when I was vrey drunk and I decided to pull a couple of times off a joint. I was so drunk that I probably got high but I didnt realize it and ended up passing out eventually due to the drunkess.
I am always very tempted to light up a joint with my friends as they smoke all the time when we play soccer or go out to the clubs etc... but I have to remind myself that the panic attacks make it totally not worth it.
anyways... dont feel alone... I did at first but then I realized there are many people out there that suffer the same problem which made them have to quit. Life goes on and eventually you stop having the cravings for the drug itself... the hardest part is the fact that you can't fit into the social scene of smoking pot with your friends or girls and sh*t at parties... at least thats what I felt.
PeacE!
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you guys are right. ive smoked regularly (3-4 times a day) for almost ten years and the correlation between smoking and anxiety is clear as day. the worst part is i know its coming before i smoke but i still hit that bong thinking maybe this time it will be different.
i recently got into a high stress career at age 26 where i have to be "on" while at work. my time is precious and its mentally exhausting. as soon as i get into my car to head home i reach for that pipe and bag. the cycle of abuse is terrible. smoke weed to get away from the stresses of life, which only makes me more stressed. the most frustrating thing is that i feel powerless to stop it. i just procrastinate my quitting and have done so for years.
well now im losing sleep thinking about my next day. i toss and turn, planning my next day while getting even more anxious because im not sleeping. i know its the weed and after reading this posts its clear what i must do. it saddens me because i love the drug. it has been a huge part of my life for years. i have always been a proponent of its use and have not been shy about admitting it. but i think i was wrong.
sure im not robbing houses and mugging people to pay for it. its a relatively cheap drug (at least in canada). but i am making concessions in my life because of it. like many posters here i will avoid social situations for no clear reason, and my body is becoming affected by the loss of motivation that accompanies pot.
ill keep you posted like a kind of case study for my an attempt at drastically reducing my use. i aim to keep it to very occasional situations. i dont need to celebrate every 4:20 with a pipe hit. who knows, i may falter tomorrow and hit one on the way home, never returning to this site again. but i need to try and hopefully i will be able to help someone else with a similar problem.
ill try to keep you posted.
i recently got into a high stress career at age 26 where i have to be "on" while at work. my time is precious and its mentally exhausting. as soon as i get into my car to head home i reach for that pipe and bag. the cycle of abuse is terrible. smoke weed to get away from the stresses of life, which only makes me more stressed. the most frustrating thing is that i feel powerless to stop it. i just procrastinate my quitting and have done so for years.
well now im losing sleep thinking about my next day. i toss and turn, planning my next day while getting even more anxious because im not sleeping. i know its the weed and after reading this posts its clear what i must do. it saddens me because i love the drug. it has been a huge part of my life for years. i have always been a proponent of its use and have not been shy about admitting it. but i think i was wrong.
sure im not robbing houses and mugging people to pay for it. its a relatively cheap drug (at least in canada). but i am making concessions in my life because of it. like many posters here i will avoid social situations for no clear reason, and my body is becoming affected by the loss of motivation that accompanies pot.
ill keep you posted like a kind of case study for my an attempt at drastically reducing my use. i aim to keep it to very occasional situations. i dont need to celebrate every 4:20 with a pipe hit. who knows, i may falter tomorrow and hit one on the way home, never returning to this site again. but i need to try and hopefully i will be able to help someone else with a similar problem.
ill try to keep you posted.
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Hey Rems,
I have just read your baad baad experience in Amsterdam and was so touched by your story, cuz mine is so similar! I tried marijuana only 1 time and had very very similar reaction, I didnt have fun at all!!! my boyfriend was with me when we smoked, and he always has great time smoking it. I had anxiety attacks and depression afterwards for like 3 months! now its about 4 years since and for the most of the time I felt great, but I've just recently got a really strong panick attack cuz the same sh*t thoughts started to fill up my head and I just cant throw them out of my head! I know it'll go away but it's just soo hard sometimes. Anyway, I was wondering, how you doing, are you completely over it or still struggling?..
Cheers,
Lyuba
I have just read your baad baad experience in Amsterdam and was so touched by your story, cuz mine is so similar! I tried marijuana only 1 time and had very very similar reaction, I didnt have fun at all!!! my boyfriend was with me when we smoked, and he always has great time smoking it. I had anxiety attacks and depression afterwards for like 3 months! now its about 4 years since and for the most of the time I felt great, but I've just recently got a really strong panick attack cuz the same sh*t thoughts started to fill up my head and I just cant throw them out of my head! I know it'll go away but it's just soo hard sometimes. Anyway, I was wondering, how you doing, are you completely over it or still struggling?..
Cheers,
Lyuba
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There's a lot of good points/suggestions here, but the realty is marijuana doesn't help with the problems, it's a depressant, just like alcohol. I've had many panic attacks from weed, particularly my first time as a teenager.
The problem is, if you have a problem to start with and don't learn to deal with it on your own, it doesn't go away. No matter how much you smoke, drink, etc..... you have to learn to deal with the problem. Marijuana induces a euphoria-like (depending on the quality :) ) state which makes you care less about everything (mainly when you are doing it everyday). That includes whatever causes anxiety. However, eventually it catches up to you. Like, going a few days without smoking, your problems coming back and then you try smoke. Your brain is trying to run normal (people notice this as there brain thinking too fast, when it's just the fact your not use to it or you could have AADD) and marijuana is depressing your body (despite making you feel good).
Whether you seek professional help or not, you need to learn a "new way" of thinking than you use to. This is for the better. You can still enjoy smoking once in a while, but remember too much of something is never a good thing. At least not for a lot of people.
Meditate, Exercise, Proper Diet, and new way of thinking will defintely change things for the better.
The problem is, if you have a problem to start with and don't learn to deal with it on your own, it doesn't go away. No matter how much you smoke, drink, etc..... you have to learn to deal with the problem. Marijuana induces a euphoria-like (depending on the quality :) ) state which makes you care less about everything (mainly when you are doing it everyday). That includes whatever causes anxiety. However, eventually it catches up to you. Like, going a few days without smoking, your problems coming back and then you try smoke. Your brain is trying to run normal (people notice this as there brain thinking too fast, when it's just the fact your not use to it or you could have AADD) and marijuana is depressing your body (despite making you feel good).
Whether you seek professional help or not, you need to learn a "new way" of thinking than you use to. This is for the better. You can still enjoy smoking once in a while, but remember too much of something is never a good thing. At least not for a lot of people.
Meditate, Exercise, Proper Diet, and new way of thinking will defintely change things for the better.
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At one point in my life, I was as rock solid as one could ever hope. Stress would never phase me and I lived every moment of what life had to offer. I had a slight weight problem but short of that life was perfect, friends, family, money, couldn't have enough. People use to say I was high on life.
I moved across country, new job, new friends, new life and things only better. I started to get in shape, lost a lot of weight very fast and things only got better. Overnight things got even better and every moment of life became a high like no other.
At first I just wanted to try Cannabis, but it didn't do anything. Then I tried it again and it was like a new world. When on it, things were amazing. Suddenly the morning was a runners high, the days were a natural high on life and the nights were a an artificial high on the stuff. For months a perfect life became the stuff dreams are made of.
Something happened. I don't know when it started or why but things at work suddenly became a bit more difficult. Suddenly stress was in the picture but didn't really bother me, still liked my job and enjoyed everything else about life. One day however, I had probably a fairly stressful day but didn't really care much, then I went out with some friends and drank myself silly, probably more than I could remember in a long time. Afterwards we went to a friends house and got some "good stuff" but something really bad happened that I probably never will forget.
At first I couldn't understand it, thought it was having a heart attack. I felt as if I was going insane, I was afraid and really didn't know what to do. Friends just said sleep it off and I tried but that night just freaked everyone out. Spent the next few hours thinking I was going to die talking to a friend of mine, he just kept ensuring me that I was ok.
The next day, I was exhausted, I felt like I just recovered from a heart attack, mind you I was only 25 at the time. So here I was, for the most part living the high life in NYC and just experienced probably the scariest thing I had ever gone through physically. Someone had convinced me that the "stuff" was just laced so I moved on.
About a week later, I tried it again but this time it was worse. It was so bad, I went to the emergency room. When I got there, my blood pressure was over 200 Systolic and 140 Diastolic. The doc said I was fortunate I didn't stroke out but surprisingly without any meds, in 20 to 30 minutes unlike the first time I was doing much better. When they did a full workup and an ekg, they said there was nothing wrong.
Probably two weeks later, I figured, ok, one more try. Yeah, I know, why but I had to know. Sure enough, it was bad. This trip to the emergency room was a bit different and interesting at that. Part of my anxiety I think was not wanting anyone outside my circle to "know" and when I finally told the ER doc, I actually broke down in tears. I am not talking a whimper but sobbing uncontrollably. They later said it was anxiety and that Cannabis itself wouldn't have caused it.
For me the anxiety was hard. When the attacks happened, they could last hours. The worst one was 6 hours to the point where I just finally passed out. The pounding in my chest would start up and then go away and every time I would think it was over, it would just come back. Everything I've read said they were suppose to last 20 to 30 minutes but these went on for hours, not what appeared to be hours but actual hours that appears to be a lifetime.
Over the next few months, I went to several docs, therapist and nothing. The docs said I was fine and the therapist had no shortage of opinions. While I certainly think there is some value in therapy and tried my best, the results were less than promising with every opinion in the book thrown at me and while I tried to find a resolution in those opinions, they only seem to complicate things more.
This was about 3 years ago. Since then I've left the job and have gone onto bigger and better things and while I do a good job at controlling the anxiety, there are still times it comes back. I've not tried Cannabis since and yet the smallest things can cause an anxiety attack. I still haven't been able to figure out what it is or why and while I can control it to the point where it's not noticeable, there were times without Cannabis it was pretty extreme. Never so much as with it but it was still there, the anxiety that is.
Sometimes I wonder if it will ever go away. I think in time I will be able to control it better but even now I find that sometimes it just hits me out of no where and I don't get it.
The hardest part being that at one point in life, I thought I had it all figured out and now here I am and I keep hoping for the day a doctor tells me there is a medical reason for this so at least then I can get it fixed. I've tried one anti anxiety drug and for a few weeks it worked very well but it wasn't for me. Seemed to have more problems than good. While I want to get better, I just don't know how or where to turn. I've read the books, talked to the experts and the best I've heard is that it really never goes away, once you have experienced it, it just becomes part of you. Even keep hoping I can find the one "good" therapist who can help but to date no luck. Personally nothing saddens me more than to think at one point I was the rock in my circles and while I try very hard to continue that, many of the aftermaths of this situation like depression that comes and goes and the constant lack of focus and concentration are just too much at times.
I've heard all the clichés and tried my best to figure out the resolution but often times it seems like one of those things I will just have to learn to live with. I don't regret taking the Cannabis, I think that whatever this is, that if it wasn't the Cannabis that caused it to surface, it would have been something else. I do however wish so much I can get back to a life where waking up is like a dream and going through the days is like heaven on earth, I guess until I can find that again, I will just have to learn to deal.
I don't like depression and while I know others don't, for me it's hard because I know it's all in my mind, I truly know that but the mind wont let me think otherwise. I don't like anxiety because it too is in my mind. While there may never be that silver bullet to fixing this, I wake up everyday hoping that I will find the one thing that at least keeps the hope coming back. Personally sometimes I wonder if things would have been better if life wasn't so good, at least then I wouldn't know what I was missing.
Thanks for letting me rant.
I moved across country, new job, new friends, new life and things only better. I started to get in shape, lost a lot of weight very fast and things only got better. Overnight things got even better and every moment of life became a high like no other.
At first I just wanted to try Cannabis, but it didn't do anything. Then I tried it again and it was like a new world. When on it, things were amazing. Suddenly the morning was a runners high, the days were a natural high on life and the nights were a an artificial high on the stuff. For months a perfect life became the stuff dreams are made of.
Something happened. I don't know when it started or why but things at work suddenly became a bit more difficult. Suddenly stress was in the picture but didn't really bother me, still liked my job and enjoyed everything else about life. One day however, I had probably a fairly stressful day but didn't really care much, then I went out with some friends and drank myself silly, probably more than I could remember in a long time. Afterwards we went to a friends house and got some "good stuff" but something really bad happened that I probably never will forget.
At first I couldn't understand it, thought it was having a heart attack. I felt as if I was going insane, I was afraid and really didn't know what to do. Friends just said sleep it off and I tried but that night just freaked everyone out. Spent the next few hours thinking I was going to die talking to a friend of mine, he just kept ensuring me that I was ok.
The next day, I was exhausted, I felt like I just recovered from a heart attack, mind you I was only 25 at the time. So here I was, for the most part living the high life in NYC and just experienced probably the scariest thing I had ever gone through physically. Someone had convinced me that the "stuff" was just laced so I moved on.
About a week later, I tried it again but this time it was worse. It was so bad, I went to the emergency room. When I got there, my blood pressure was over 200 Systolic and 140 Diastolic. The doc said I was fortunate I didn't stroke out but surprisingly without any meds, in 20 to 30 minutes unlike the first time I was doing much better. When they did a full workup and an ekg, they said there was nothing wrong.
Probably two weeks later, I figured, ok, one more try. Yeah, I know, why but I had to know. Sure enough, it was bad. This trip to the emergency room was a bit different and interesting at that. Part of my anxiety I think was not wanting anyone outside my circle to "know" and when I finally told the ER doc, I actually broke down in tears. I am not talking a whimper but sobbing uncontrollably. They later said it was anxiety and that Cannabis itself wouldn't have caused it.
For me the anxiety was hard. When the attacks happened, they could last hours. The worst one was 6 hours to the point where I just finally passed out. The pounding in my chest would start up and then go away and every time I would think it was over, it would just come back. Everything I've read said they were suppose to last 20 to 30 minutes but these went on for hours, not what appeared to be hours but actual hours that appears to be a lifetime.
Over the next few months, I went to several docs, therapist and nothing. The docs said I was fine and the therapist had no shortage of opinions. While I certainly think there is some value in therapy and tried my best, the results were less than promising with every opinion in the book thrown at me and while I tried to find a resolution in those opinions, they only seem to complicate things more.
This was about 3 years ago. Since then I've left the job and have gone onto bigger and better things and while I do a good job at controlling the anxiety, there are still times it comes back. I've not tried Cannabis since and yet the smallest things can cause an anxiety attack. I still haven't been able to figure out what it is or why and while I can control it to the point where it's not noticeable, there were times without Cannabis it was pretty extreme. Never so much as with it but it was still there, the anxiety that is.
Sometimes I wonder if it will ever go away. I think in time I will be able to control it better but even now I find that sometimes it just hits me out of no where and I don't get it.
The hardest part being that at one point in life, I thought I had it all figured out and now here I am and I keep hoping for the day a doctor tells me there is a medical reason for this so at least then I can get it fixed. I've tried one anti anxiety drug and for a few weeks it worked very well but it wasn't for me. Seemed to have more problems than good. While I want to get better, I just don't know how or where to turn. I've read the books, talked to the experts and the best I've heard is that it really never goes away, once you have experienced it, it just becomes part of you. Even keep hoping I can find the one "good" therapist who can help but to date no luck. Personally nothing saddens me more than to think at one point I was the rock in my circles and while I try very hard to continue that, many of the aftermaths of this situation like depression that comes and goes and the constant lack of focus and concentration are just too much at times.
I've heard all the clichés and tried my best to figure out the resolution but often times it seems like one of those things I will just have to learn to live with. I don't regret taking the Cannabis, I think that whatever this is, that if it wasn't the Cannabis that caused it to surface, it would have been something else. I do however wish so much I can get back to a life where waking up is like a dream and going through the days is like heaven on earth, I guess until I can find that again, I will just have to learn to deal.
I don't like depression and while I know others don't, for me it's hard because I know it's all in my mind, I truly know that but the mind wont let me think otherwise. I don't like anxiety because it too is in my mind. While there may never be that silver bullet to fixing this, I wake up everyday hoping that I will find the one thing that at least keeps the hope coming back. Personally sometimes I wonder if things would have been better if life wasn't so good, at least then I wouldn't know what I was missing.
Thanks for letting me rant.
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i have wicked bad anxiety now from weed. smoking weed has driven me to listen to music all the time now. i find it can help. i listen to songs and hear things i was thinking. ones like no rain by blind melon or nirvana songs like negative creep. the best songs i connect with seem to be from people who killed them selves, they were feeling it the worst. like learing that kurt cobain had gay thoughts and messed up thoughts made me feel like it wasnt only me. lol this is just something weird, i feel drugs and music connect
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Its more likely to be a nicotine addiction.
If you smoke regularly, cigs, spliffs etc. and then you quit, you go cold tturkey from nicotine. Ask a heavy smoker who quit what it feels like a few days later, and how long it takes before they feel normal again. Your body gets serious withdrawal symptoms from a lack of nicotine anything from a few hours to a few days after stopping....and it can last for months.
ride it out, or just steadily decrease your dose....as opposed to quitting outright.
If you smoke regularly, cigs, spliffs etc. and then you quit, you go cold tturkey from nicotine. Ask a heavy smoker who quit what it feels like a few days later, and how long it takes before they feel normal again. Your body gets serious withdrawal symptoms from a lack of nicotine anything from a few hours to a few days after stopping....and it can last for months.
ride it out, or just steadily decrease your dose....as opposed to quitting outright.
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this sounds similar to me. when i first got high i had a very sevear panic attack. but the next time i smoked i was fine and had a great high. i feel in love with the drug and started doing it more and morei smoked daily for probobly 2 or three years and last year, probobly smoked several times a day. about four months ago i started having little mini panic attacks that would last for about 15 minitus or so, i just figured these it was no big deal. then three weeks ago, while dealing with a particularly stressful event, i had a major anxiety attack, and since then, it seems like my entier mental out look has changed. i havent been smoking for thoes three weeks, and i still feel like my whole life is an anxiety attack. my chest is tight and often hurts, and ive been having trouble eating and sleeping. i really wanna get back to normal but i dont know how. ive tried reasoning through it and thinking things through, but nothing seems to work. im not sure what i should do. im not even sure if it was my habitual smoking that contributed or if its something separate. i would be considerate of any advice
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Im really glad i found this forum. I was just google searching and i came across it. A lot of what everyone on here is talking about I can relate to 110%. I feel like i owe it to everyone to tell my experience and how i got over this.
I started smoking when I was about 16-17. The first time i tried it i didnt get high (who does?) then the next few times when i smoked i fell in love with it. It was an awesome euphoric feeling and made everything look and sound so much more intense. Things like listening to music were amplified and the coolest thing ever. Not worth it though in the end. Then randomly i would start to get almost a feeling of a "bad trip" when i was high. I would start to notice my heart beating faster and feeling like i was gonna have a heart attack. I always got the mental urge of "i dont want to be high anymore..i want to come down..panic panic panic..feeling gets worse" So i would immediately eat a ton of food (because we all know smoking gives you the munches and it makes you come down).
This started happening everytime i smoked. I hated it and decided to throw in the towel. I saved a lot more money, and became a lot more productive after i quit. Everything was going great until about a week after i quit. One night i just all of a sudden felt incredibly tired and had a weird almost dizzy like feeling in my brain. I wasnt physically dizzy i just felt so WEIRD and i had never experienced anything like this so i freaked out and thought maybe i was just really over tired. So i came home and took some excedrin and tried to go to sleep. I woke up the next morning and immediately felt even weirder. I started to question whether anything was actually "real". Like are the things in my room and house real? Why do they look kind of weird? or do they look weird or am i just going crazy?
This feeling got worse over the next few days and people started to look as if they were 2 dimensional. It kind of felt like i was high..even though i hadnt smoked in over like two weeks at this point. The feeling got so bad that i couldnt sleep. I would wake up with sweats and chills and nightmares. I would wake up and turn on the light in my room to try and calm down and everything looked fuzzy and distorted. It was almost like hallucinations..but not the crazy stuff you usually associate with hallucinations..like seeing people or hearing weird voices. I knew i needed help and i needed it asap. So i went to see a pshyciatrist. He explained what was happening to me and that it happens to a lot of people. The THC in marijuana stays in your system for up to 30 days in some people. The reason being is it attatches to your fat cells and you sweat it out. I also forgot to mention that i had the worst panic attacks at random times..and i was also afraid to go places or drive because i was afraid i would have to pull over and deal with the crazy attack. The doctor gave me a medicatin called xanax. Its a tranquilizer that abused a lot as a street drug. But in my case it really helped my panic attacks. After a few weeks the panic attacks went away forever and i havent had one since. He also gave me an antidepressant to help with the anxiety and derealization i was experiencing. After a few months and some therapy i started to feel completely normal again...or close enough.
Its a hard road to deal with..especially since most times this anxiety and panic attacks hit you when you arent even expecting it..or even know whats happening to your body. The best thing i can offer is to go see a professional pshychiatrist. They deal with tons of people who go through stuff like this and they will most likely be able to offer a medication to help. Sure some of the medications have side effects. But I would rather deal with the occasional headache or nausea then to deal with the panic attacks and anxiety anyday.
Hang in there guys. Theres a light at the end of your tunnel..just look for it.
I started smoking when I was about 16-17. The first time i tried it i didnt get high (who does?) then the next few times when i smoked i fell in love with it. It was an awesome euphoric feeling and made everything look and sound so much more intense. Things like listening to music were amplified and the coolest thing ever. Not worth it though in the end. Then randomly i would start to get almost a feeling of a "bad trip" when i was high. I would start to notice my heart beating faster and feeling like i was gonna have a heart attack. I always got the mental urge of "i dont want to be high anymore..i want to come down..panic panic panic..feeling gets worse" So i would immediately eat a ton of food (because we all know smoking gives you the munches and it makes you come down).
This started happening everytime i smoked. I hated it and decided to throw in the towel. I saved a lot more money, and became a lot more productive after i quit. Everything was going great until about a week after i quit. One night i just all of a sudden felt incredibly tired and had a weird almost dizzy like feeling in my brain. I wasnt physically dizzy i just felt so WEIRD and i had never experienced anything like this so i freaked out and thought maybe i was just really over tired. So i came home and took some excedrin and tried to go to sleep. I woke up the next morning and immediately felt even weirder. I started to question whether anything was actually "real". Like are the things in my room and house real? Why do they look kind of weird? or do they look weird or am i just going crazy?
This feeling got worse over the next few days and people started to look as if they were 2 dimensional. It kind of felt like i was high..even though i hadnt smoked in over like two weeks at this point. The feeling got so bad that i couldnt sleep. I would wake up with sweats and chills and nightmares. I would wake up and turn on the light in my room to try and calm down and everything looked fuzzy and distorted. It was almost like hallucinations..but not the crazy stuff you usually associate with hallucinations..like seeing people or hearing weird voices. I knew i needed help and i needed it asap. So i went to see a pshyciatrist. He explained what was happening to me and that it happens to a lot of people. The THC in marijuana stays in your system for up to 30 days in some people. The reason being is it attatches to your fat cells and you sweat it out. I also forgot to mention that i had the worst panic attacks at random times..and i was also afraid to go places or drive because i was afraid i would have to pull over and deal with the crazy attack. The doctor gave me a medicatin called xanax. Its a tranquilizer that abused a lot as a street drug. But in my case it really helped my panic attacks. After a few weeks the panic attacks went away forever and i havent had one since. He also gave me an antidepressant to help with the anxiety and derealization i was experiencing. After a few months and some therapy i started to feel completely normal again...or close enough.
Its a hard road to deal with..especially since most times this anxiety and panic attacks hit you when you arent even expecting it..or even know whats happening to your body. The best thing i can offer is to go see a professional pshychiatrist. They deal with tons of people who go through stuff like this and they will most likely be able to offer a medication to help. Sure some of the medications have side effects. But I would rather deal with the occasional headache or nausea then to deal with the panic attacks and anxiety anyday.
Hang in there guys. Theres a light at the end of your tunnel..just look for it.
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ive been smoking since i was 14 now i am 25. i never use to have a problem with anxiety untill i reached a ruff part in my life and started useing other drugs and very hevily started useing coke which later turned into me using rock (crack became much easier to find). once i got to my lowest point in life i met a girl who i can say rescued me in a way. she kept me busy lol and i soon changed everything i my life that revolved around coke in any form.within weeks of quitting the harsh sh*t i started having crazy anxiety attacks and felt like i was dying, my heart would pound so hard that my chest would bruise to a point. i got put on meds for a good 2 years and they did seem to help but only to an extent. instead of haveing 8 hours worth of anxiety a day id only have a few attacks a day. during all of this time i still smoked a hell of a lot of pot. my beliefes in legalizing this stuff has made me not want to ever give it up for good and i probably never will. i very rarely have anxiety now but when i do its always when im high. ive been clean from the other sh*t now for 4 years (as long as ive been with my girl) and have not been on med for a year and a half. i know this may not work for most people but now if i start getting anxiety from weed i just stop smoking for a month and i will do this at least twice a year. when i go back to smokeing i never smoke more then a pinner and its like the first time doing it. i get so baked and eat cookies all day lol like i said this will not work for everyone but this is what i do to controll my attacks and still get the enjoyment of smoking pot.
MAN MADE BEER, GOD MADE POT.....................WHO DO YOU TRUST?
MAN MADE BEER, GOD MADE POT.....................WHO DO YOU TRUST?
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I used be a pothead and I guess I still am a little, but I realized lately that my tolerance is super low due to the fact that I get anxiety attacks. The first time I had an anxiety attack was one night when I was stressing over school and losing weight. I couldn't go to sleep and found myself thinking that my heart rate was way too high and I might be having a heart attack. Weird right... but none the less the symptoms were so convincing I was calling my boyfriend trying to ask him advice to see if I really needed to go to the doctor.
Actually, when I think about it I have probably had bits of anxiety and depression since high school and I always seemed to think they were just normal phases of life.
With the way society is structured today and all the demands on our intelligent and physical activities to meet standards it is no wonder that millions of people suffer from anxiety. We are not living peacefully or close to the earth as we used to be. We are eating tons of processed foods that are putting all sorts of mind altering drugs into our bodies. We are running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to impress people and make more money. We all know that 4% of the population own all of the worlds money, but for some reason we think that someday we will be happier if we get even just a little slice of the pie. So we conform, go into debit and let others contol our land and our lives. And the subconcious is quite aware that we are not supposed to live this way as human beings.
We are AFRAID of being different from these standards and therefore the battle between right and wrong, real and not real and create a type of reaction commonly called schezophrenia ... usually induced by an overload of anxiety. Anxiety, I think, is something that can only be controled in a higher level of conciousness. If we can come to terms with the things we wish to change in our lives and make a way to manifest these changes in order to make ourselves truely content I believe we can rid ourselves from anxiety. I believe our manifestations must first be within and then work their way out. You will notice that wealthy people are either completely evil or insane, or they are the most peaceful giving people you have ever met. I would rather be the later WITHOUT anxiety.
We all agree on the simple principals of a peaceful life, but the problem is if you're peaceful you can't minipulate people to get what you want. Therfore you can not force your own fortune or control the minds of others. You can not produce anxiety in the minds of people and you cannot use agression as a form of political and economic control. This is why we will never see world peace, because there is a growing population of people who are greedy enough to force their standards on you in order force a subconcious anxiety about your own existance ( whether is is your weight, clothing, financial status, knowledge, health, spirituality, etc.) in order create a pyramid where they are in control and everyone dreams of getting to the top (which is made inaccessable).
Most of us consider anxiety a problem. A bad gene or a malfunction in the brain. When in fact anxiety ( i.e. fear) is the only mechanism that relates us as humans. We all fear things. Most of us fear the same things and some of us fear more things than others. If you wish to let go of a fear you have to come to terms with why you really fear them and get down to the bottom of what the problem is. With Drugs this can often be difficult because we tend to believe that psychoactive drugs are controling us and we cannot alter there affects on us.
Your mind is stronger than you think. Think about how many times you woke up from a bad dream and thought... "it's just a dream, it's not real."
Or a time when you something tramautic happened and you kept your calm. You were contolling your anxiety. This can be applied to anything, especially drugs.
Now let's first get on the subject of marijuana.
Marijuana doesn't stimulate the brain to release dopamine like ectasy or meth.
It clings to cells in the brain that control memory, pain, and movement. Here's a quote form one of the many online articles about marijuana.
"THC is absorbed by receptors in the brain that interact with the element, causing the body and mind to react in various ways.There are two types of receptors in the brain that play a role in the effects of marijuana.
CB1, CB2 and anandamide, a substance naturally produced by the body that acts at the cannabinoid receptor and has effects similar to those of THC"
Also, I would like to bring up the fact that many of my elders who used to smoke mounds of weed say the substance has changed since the 60's and that there are a lot of people adding things to the plants, or changing them in order to create different effects. This is why weed strain has gotton to be somewhat like wine... you will never know all the different types and some of them you might not like. If you want a clean high go to Jamaica and get some home grown outdoor buds, grow your own with care or get a medical marijuana card and choose a clinic that seems legit. I think some of these clinics are doing a little bit of experimenting themselves, because I ate a banana bread from one of them and I freaked out. I was only supposed to eat half, but it didn't exactly say that on the package. Here's a quote from the same article...
"The main difference between medicinal marijuana and recreational marijuana is the quality of the drug. (8) Purchasing recreational marijuana can subject the user to various side effects due to the purity of the product. Because marijuana is an illegal drug, products sold outside government regulation are subjected to various types of additives to just for profit. These additives can cause serious side-effect in the brain. Because much research on marijuana and the effects of THC on the brain have been conducted, medicinal marijuana is provided in a controlled environment and the product given is of the highest quality. The controlled environment includes careful monitoring of the substance."
Now. I don't ever advise anyone to try those synthetic marijuana pills... A report I read a while ago said that the only time any one ever died from something with supposed THC in it was when taking too many of those crazy pills. Remeber... pharmaseutical drugs are often experiments that are worse for you and just having whatever you got. Like if you have high cholestoral.... the statin drugs they give you actually kill your liver and you usually die more painfully than having a heart attack.... that's why if you have High Cholesterol use natural products from Bios Life and Cinnamon pills and you will see a dramatic decrease in your bad cholesteral and improvement in your good cholesterol.
Anyway, my personal observations are that people who exercise a lot tend to have a VERY high tolerance for weed because they often feel good about themselves, have less toxins in their body to react with THC, and generally have more mental endurance and focus ( wich helps them be anxiety free ). I notice one thing that helps me when I smoke pot and start to feel an onset of an anxiety attack is to analyze the situation I am in and why I might be feeling this way. Usually it goes something like this ... " well, I am alone in a room with my boyfriend's friend who decided to smoke me out because they let and the situation seems awkward. I am probably having anxiety because I don't know what to say and am a little embarrassed about the fact I don't have any to share and may be I am even anxious about the fact that it is possible I might have an anxiety attack. In all reality none of this matters and whatever he thinks about me doesn't matter." Then after I think things through a little I initiate a conversation and focus on something else.... and guess what. The symptoms go away.
I have never had any withdrawal symptoms from THC and I have always had a kind of take it or leave it attitude toward it. I have only ever bought it when I had a little extra cash and don't really have a hard time passing on it. I have had extremely intellectual converstations while using the drug and met some amazing people. I think phsychoactive open a portal for which we can see the world differently and some people are simply afraid of that difference or too uncomfortable with themselves to let those fears go. With me, I think I have been personally disgusted with my own conforming to society and my loss of physical health because of it and there for have begun to doubt my own self-esteem wich is causing a mental state similar to phases I have experienced before in life only the use of marijuana sometimes magnifies these thoughts in my head and brings them to the fore front for me to solve them. Just like your body warns you of things that are unhealthy, your mind warns you of thoughts that are unhealthy and it your choice to overcome them.
My suggestion,
get healthy, love yourself, love your life, and then try a little bit of marijuana again and see what happens. Try to work through your subconcious issues and you will be a happier person. Get a medical marijuana card, grow your own buds and reward yourself with a relaxing brownie once a week.
You can also try marijuana substitutes too. We have one here on the islands ( hawaii) that never fails to give you a nice calm mellow mood, but doesn't feel at all like marijuana. I like it... it's not addictive at all.
Actually, when I think about it I have probably had bits of anxiety and depression since high school and I always seemed to think they were just normal phases of life.
With the way society is structured today and all the demands on our intelligent and physical activities to meet standards it is no wonder that millions of people suffer from anxiety. We are not living peacefully or close to the earth as we used to be. We are eating tons of processed foods that are putting all sorts of mind altering drugs into our bodies. We are running around like chickens with our heads cut off trying to impress people and make more money. We all know that 4% of the population own all of the worlds money, but for some reason we think that someday we will be happier if we get even just a little slice of the pie. So we conform, go into debit and let others contol our land and our lives. And the subconcious is quite aware that we are not supposed to live this way as human beings.
We are AFRAID of being different from these standards and therefore the battle between right and wrong, real and not real and create a type of reaction commonly called schezophrenia ... usually induced by an overload of anxiety. Anxiety, I think, is something that can only be controled in a higher level of conciousness. If we can come to terms with the things we wish to change in our lives and make a way to manifest these changes in order to make ourselves truely content I believe we can rid ourselves from anxiety. I believe our manifestations must first be within and then work their way out. You will notice that wealthy people are either completely evil or insane, or they are the most peaceful giving people you have ever met. I would rather be the later WITHOUT anxiety.
We all agree on the simple principals of a peaceful life, but the problem is if you're peaceful you can't minipulate people to get what you want. Therfore you can not force your own fortune or control the minds of others. You can not produce anxiety in the minds of people and you cannot use agression as a form of political and economic control. This is why we will never see world peace, because there is a growing population of people who are greedy enough to force their standards on you in order force a subconcious anxiety about your own existance ( whether is is your weight, clothing, financial status, knowledge, health, spirituality, etc.) in order create a pyramid where they are in control and everyone dreams of getting to the top (which is made inaccessable).
Most of us consider anxiety a problem. A bad gene or a malfunction in the brain. When in fact anxiety ( i.e. fear) is the only mechanism that relates us as humans. We all fear things. Most of us fear the same things and some of us fear more things than others. If you wish to let go of a fear you have to come to terms with why you really fear them and get down to the bottom of what the problem is. With Drugs this can often be difficult because we tend to believe that psychoactive drugs are controling us and we cannot alter there affects on us.
Your mind is stronger than you think. Think about how many times you woke up from a bad dream and thought... "it's just a dream, it's not real."
Or a time when you something tramautic happened and you kept your calm. You were contolling your anxiety. This can be applied to anything, especially drugs.
Now let's first get on the subject of marijuana.
Marijuana doesn't stimulate the brain to release dopamine like ectasy or meth.
It clings to cells in the brain that control memory, pain, and movement. Here's a quote form one of the many online articles about marijuana.
"THC is absorbed by receptors in the brain that interact with the element, causing the body and mind to react in various ways.There are two types of receptors in the brain that play a role in the effects of marijuana.
CB1, CB2 and anandamide, a substance naturally produced by the body that acts at the cannabinoid receptor and has effects similar to those of THC"
Also, I would like to bring up the fact that many of my elders who used to smoke mounds of weed say the substance has changed since the 60's and that there are a lot of people adding things to the plants, or changing them in order to create different effects. This is why weed strain has gotton to be somewhat like wine... you will never know all the different types and some of them you might not like. If you want a clean high go to Jamaica and get some home grown outdoor buds, grow your own with care or get a medical marijuana card and choose a clinic that seems legit. I think some of these clinics are doing a little bit of experimenting themselves, because I ate a banana bread from one of them and I freaked out. I was only supposed to eat half, but it didn't exactly say that on the package. Here's a quote from the same article...
"The main difference between medicinal marijuana and recreational marijuana is the quality of the drug. (8) Purchasing recreational marijuana can subject the user to various side effects due to the purity of the product. Because marijuana is an illegal drug, products sold outside government regulation are subjected to various types of additives to just for profit. These additives can cause serious side-effect in the brain. Because much research on marijuana and the effects of THC on the brain have been conducted, medicinal marijuana is provided in a controlled environment and the product given is of the highest quality. The controlled environment includes careful monitoring of the substance."
Now. I don't ever advise anyone to try those synthetic marijuana pills... A report I read a while ago said that the only time any one ever died from something with supposed THC in it was when taking too many of those crazy pills. Remeber... pharmaseutical drugs are often experiments that are worse for you and just having whatever you got. Like if you have high cholestoral.... the statin drugs they give you actually kill your liver and you usually die more painfully than having a heart attack.... that's why if you have High Cholesterol use natural products from Bios Life and Cinnamon pills and you will see a dramatic decrease in your bad cholesteral and improvement in your good cholesterol.
Anyway, my personal observations are that people who exercise a lot tend to have a VERY high tolerance for weed because they often feel good about themselves, have less toxins in their body to react with THC, and generally have more mental endurance and focus ( wich helps them be anxiety free ). I notice one thing that helps me when I smoke pot and start to feel an onset of an anxiety attack is to analyze the situation I am in and why I might be feeling this way. Usually it goes something like this ... " well, I am alone in a room with my boyfriend's friend who decided to smoke me out because they let and the situation seems awkward. I am probably having anxiety because I don't know what to say and am a little embarrassed about the fact I don't have any to share and may be I am even anxious about the fact that it is possible I might have an anxiety attack. In all reality none of this matters and whatever he thinks about me doesn't matter." Then after I think things through a little I initiate a conversation and focus on something else.... and guess what. The symptoms go away.
I have never had any withdrawal symptoms from THC and I have always had a kind of take it or leave it attitude toward it. I have only ever bought it when I had a little extra cash and don't really have a hard time passing on it. I have had extremely intellectual converstations while using the drug and met some amazing people. I think phsychoactive open a portal for which we can see the world differently and some people are simply afraid of that difference or too uncomfortable with themselves to let those fears go. With me, I think I have been personally disgusted with my own conforming to society and my loss of physical health because of it and there for have begun to doubt my own self-esteem wich is causing a mental state similar to phases I have experienced before in life only the use of marijuana sometimes magnifies these thoughts in my head and brings them to the fore front for me to solve them. Just like your body warns you of things that are unhealthy, your mind warns you of thoughts that are unhealthy and it your choice to overcome them.
My suggestion,
get healthy, love yourself, love your life, and then try a little bit of marijuana again and see what happens. Try to work through your subconcious issues and you will be a happier person. Get a medical marijuana card, grow your own buds and reward yourself with a relaxing brownie once a week.
You can also try marijuana substitutes too. We have one here on the islands ( hawaii) that never fails to give you a nice calm mellow mood, but doesn't feel at all like marijuana. I like it... it's not addictive at all.
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This might sound strange but personally when I'm high on weed, my anxiety disappears. I become talkative and talk to other people I normally would never talk to. It got rid of my shyness, which made me more confident about myself. In the past I would become extremely nervous on presentations and start fidgeting but when I'm high I can do presentations, exams, sporting events with ease.
However there was a period when I would start thinking about stupid things but I realized that if I just chill out and act normally there was nothing to worry about. I've been smoking weed for about 4 years now, not everyday (only during the summer). I think if you just do a good amount of exercise for at least an hour you'll be fine and the key is not to overdo it. Cannabis/marijuana addiction is a psychological one similarly to someone being addicted to watching TV or becoming a shopaholic.
I'm an athletic type of person so when I smoke a .4 joint I get ripped, usually when I'm smoking with friends I try to stop halfway on the blunt or else I start zoning out, but due to peer pressure I tend to finish the whole blunt and zone out sometimes XD
However there was a period when I would start thinking about stupid things but I realized that if I just chill out and act normally there was nothing to worry about. I've been smoking weed for about 4 years now, not everyday (only during the summer). I think if you just do a good amount of exercise for at least an hour you'll be fine and the key is not to overdo it. Cannabis/marijuana addiction is a psychological one similarly to someone being addicted to watching TV or becoming a shopaholic.
I'm an athletic type of person so when I smoke a .4 joint I get ripped, usually when I'm smoking with friends I try to stop halfway on the blunt or else I start zoning out, but due to peer pressure I tend to finish the whole blunt and zone out sometimes XD
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