masturbation and bodybuilding

Great Discussion guys.
I hope that this discussion will finally stop me from do this bad habit.

Since i was child i am masturbating a lot.
Till 19-20 i didn't realize the side effects of masturbation and it was great.
However i was always skinny and week.I couldn't wake the morning and i was sleeping in the class.

After 20 i noticed the side effects of masturbation and i believe that masturbation is worst that smoking weed.

It affects my mood.
I become Antisocial.
I cant look the others in the eyes.
I feel week.
My appetite is decreased.
After masturbation i loose my virility.
Many of my mental abilities are redused.
I become nervous.
My strength is reduced.
My power is reduced.
Life force is decreased.
My eyes are burning.
After ejaculation Dark circles are getting worst.
It takes me more than 10 hours to recovery.


I made some general exams.
I was deficient in many vitamins and amino acids.
My bones were week.
My kidney and my liver was in bad shape.
But my TESTOSTERONE levels was almost DOUBLE than normal

I believe that masturbation is related with the above.
Some people who are stronger than me may not notice all of the above but i am sure that they will notice some of them.

I've been in sports for several years at varying levels of intensity and I've heard this fact/myth several times. It all has to do with your testosterone levels. Some people believe that when you masturbate you are emptying your hormone reserves, other people think it's beneficial because you're forcing your body to produce more.
The bottom line is that there is no conclusive evidence either way. If there is a placebo effect that works for you, or if you personally feel a difference, then I would do what works, however there is no supporting evidence either way.

MASTURBATION IS HORRIBLE!!! Well for bodybuilders. Unless you are female. Because after a make ejaculates he looses alot of testosterone, testosterone is the hormone that tells your body to build muscle. And if you are over 20 it is even more dentramental. Women on the other hand gain testosterone after sex, and therefore is great. I remember layla ali on jay leno saying that her trainer recommended sex before a big fight.

Your PT
-Michael

i´m a weightlifter and just masturbated and googled and found this forum. Man sounds like there has been a few priests here :-DD. "masturbation is nasty evil habbit" lol, i think if you do it before bed it only benefits in bodybuilding, you get better sleep, wich is the most importatn thing in bodybuilding. I think its only beneficial to masturbate, maby not too much of course, but once a day is okay ;-). and not before training.

masturbation causes increased levels of epinephrine and nor epinephrine in the body.both of these cause : 1.tachycardia(increased heart rate )
2.ATP build-up
3.a little addiction cuz the reward center in brain is activated
4.(THIS IS MAIN REASON WHY BODYBUILDERS SHOULD AVOID ALOT OF SEX AND MASTURBATION)
epinephrine causes peripheral vasodilation and FAT MOBILIZATION from fat depots such as adipose tissue and MUSCLES.


muscles increase in bulk because
1.actin and myosin filaments increase
2.Ca conc. increased
3. fat deposition increased

so in other words the main reason a weight-lifting increases our muscle size is cuz of fat deposition .....both cigarette smoking and sexual activities increase that fat mobilization causing a sharp decrease in muscle size thus the person appears thin....even though he can lift a lot of weight he does not have a lot of stamina and his muscles will atrophied very soon ...even if he just avoids two meals on two consecutive days.....


so since masturbation is easy and it has addictive properties a lot of poeple in our world do this that is why most of the teenager boys appear thin......


PHYSIOLOGY GUYTON AND HALL 11th EDITION (ENDOCRINOLOGY >ADRENAL MEDULLA>EFFECTS OF EPINEPHRINE)
LIPPINCOTTS pHARMACOLOGY 2nd edition (CNS STIMULANTS>NICOTINE)

masturbation causes increased levels of epinephrine and nor epinephrine in the body.both of these cause : 1.tachycardia(increased heart rate )
2.ATP build-up
3.a little addiction cuz the reward center in brain is activated
4.(THIS IS MAIN REASON WHY BODYBUILDERS SHOULD AVOID ALOT OF SEX AND MASTURBATION)
epinephrine causes peripheral vasodilation and FAT MOBILIZATION from fat depots such as adipose tissue and MUSCLES.


muscles increase in bulk because
1.actin and myosin filaments increase
2.Ca conc. increased
3. fat deposition increased

so in other words the main reason a weight-lifting increases our muscle size is cuz of fat deposition .....both cigarette smoking and sexual activities increase that fat mobilization causing a sharp decrease in muscle size thus the person appears thin....even though he can lift a lot of weight he does not have a lot of stamina and his muscles will atrophied very soon ...even if he just avoids two meals on two consecutive days.....


so since masturbation is easy and it has addictive properties a lot of poeple in our world do this that is why most of the teenager boys appear thin......

PHYSIOLOGY BY GUYTON AND HALL 11th EDITION ENDOCINOLOGY ADRENAL MEDULLA
LIPPINCOTT"S PHARMACOLOGY CNS STIMULANTS >NICOTINE

make it worth it

and have sex instead... simple as that lol

Masturbation in no way a good act. It badly affects one's body and mind as well. After completely abstaining from it for an year, I can feel the difference. I am now living a more peaceful life. Now I realise that I shouldn't have made such a dangerous act as an obsessive habit... Afterall, "one life, live it". Don't waste it. I chose to say that " Guys better get married if you wanna have sex but don't indulge in masturbation and spoil your life".

PP

Dude! I've been masturbating since 11 I guess...got into lots of problems but got no way out of it! I'm not a hooker to get girls easily and not ready for marriage, what can u recommend me now when I AM in need of sexual action? I know what are the consequences, so far I can see the results in my eyesight and muscles, but what else can I do?

Fred1980 wrote:

ppu wrote:

Masturbation in no way a good act. It badly affects one's body and mind as well. After completely abstaining from it for an year, I can feel the difference. I am now living a more peaceful life. Now I realise that I shouldn't have made such a dangerous act as an obsessive habit... Afterall, "one life, live it". Don't waste it. I chose to say that " Guys better get married if you wanna have sex but don't indulge in masturbation and spoil your life".

PP

Dude! I've been masturbating since 11 I guess...got into lots of problems but got no way out of it! I'm not a hooker to get girls easily and not ready for marriage, what can u recommend me now when I AM in need of sexual action? I know what are the consequences, so far I can see the results in my eyesight and muscles, but what else can I do?

Simply reduce the times you do it.
Tell yourself that you will do it only once a week, decide on what day of a week and wait for that day during the week.

BTW: Some of the post say that ejaculation increases Testosterone levels. This is actually depends again on the frequency of the ejaculation. If you ejaculate every day the Testosterone levels will drop. It was clinically proven that Testosterone levels will be at their highest levels if the ejaculation takes place every 7th day.

being the whole day outside home helps to stop masturbation(replacing masturbation to a probably more productive addiction such as work-a-holism). Achieve a week of this, and you will not be likely to do it for a while.

PS: after that week you should avoid to see all erotic elements around, definitively.

PS2: masturbation is bad ONLY if its an addiction, then many doctors % psychologists suggest you shouldn't try to eliminate masturbation completely, instead, try to remove whatever forced you into addiction. (could be a thousand of things, but all related to mental issues)

That is utter BS. It MAY decrease Testosterone levels, but it's also been proven to reduce the risk of prostate cancer. As far as mental health goes, it is not bad unless it happens chronically, such as several times a day. I do however agree with you that abstaining from it can have an affect on your life in the long run. But the statement, "Masturbation in no a good act", ...well let's just say I DO NOT agree.



IJG

Of course dude..masturbation do have bad effects if u r building up muscles.
When u r building muscles,ur grey matter in your head r completely positive n concentrating on your muscle tisues..thus if u go on masturbating,your grey matters go along with ur sperm carried by proteins n calories thus causing your muscle to have a large retardation in its growing up..

Its true mate..i"ve experienced it..

Thats very nice question.

I think masturbating 2-3 times for a week is OK. More than that will harm a lot.

* No, it's not bad for you, and anyone who would tell you otherwise is either uninformed or mean spirited (or they're standing outside the bathroom door waiting to get in.)

* It all depends on your personal beliefs. Some religious people consider it bad for your spirit.

* Come on, it feels good! It's not bad. I hear it's actually good for your health sexually. Seriously. Do it. Things start to stress you out less. And who likes stress? Not me!

* Any thing in balance is not likely to be taken as bad. But overindulgence or masturbating too much would definitely harm your health, and other activities related like education, extra-curricular & relations. For parents, its always very necessary to periodically watch for the activities of their child, and keep communication line open so that can properly guide them to a better prospective view of sex & awareness.

* Only if you are doing it so much that it stops you doing your schoolwork.

* There is nothing about masturbation that is physically bad for you. There are some religions or parts of some religions which look down upon it, but most thinking individuals realize that is just a scare tactic to gain control over others.

* No. It is definitely NOT bad for you. It is a medically proven fact that any sort of "normal" sexual gratification leads to a happier person as long as it doesn't interfere with you everyday life. In addition to purely psychological satisfaction, the human body produces endorphins - the hormone in charge of elevated spirits and positive perception of the environment. Prior to the culminating moment of orgasm, the brain emits a dose of oxytocin - the hormone of the posterior lobe of pituitary. Oxytocin results in the production of sedative endorphins - natural analogues of morphine. Moreover, an orgasm spurs the production of estrogen with women - the substance, which eases premenstrual pains.

* There is nothing wrong with masturbation AT ALL! It's your body and you can do what you want with it as long as it is in private and doesn't affect anybody else. It relieves stress and tension, surely that's good for you? Happy self-loving!

* Agreed. It's all perfectly normal and good, clean fun. What's more, the fantasies you have during masturbation can provide useful pointers to your sexual orientation. :-) So, merry masturbation! Relax and enjoy!

* There is nothing wrong if you masturbate but over-indulgence on anything is bad. Like eating is good for health; it gives you feeling of satisfaction but over-eating kills you. Same way masturbation will satisfy you, re-energize you, but addiction of masturbation will make you maladjusted with your environment. You will not be motivated to study hard, work hard or find a good girlfriend/boyfriend for yourself as you are already getting high-satisfaction with less effort. Masturbation serves a basic need but it should not interfere with your basic duties of life.

* Masturbation consumes you and takes your spiritual energy, this energy called "LifeForce" you may heard of it, the more you waste this energy the quicker you get old, the life force is vital to maintain your body healthy, in ancient times it is referred to one of the secrets of Immortality.

* life force is the urge by a being to go forth and multiply and some times masturbation is a healthy and Invigorating method of relieving this natural pressure God build us with open eyes and mind.

* Don't feel ashamed when you do it. Because everyone does it.

* Masturbation IS mentioned in the bible, and usually prohibited (see Onan), which is as good a reason as any to enjoy doing it. We stopped stoning witches (well, most of the time) or killing our daughters that kissed a non-Hebrew man, and most people eat fish these days as well, so I don't see any reason why you should concern yourself with whether or not the Bible mentions it.

* Masturbation is healthy for both males and females; it allows a person to experiment with what arouses them and makes them feel more in control of their sexuality. While some people just aren't interested in masturbation, there's no reason to have feelings of guilt or shame if you do masturbate.

* Apparently, for men, it reduces the chances of getting prostate cancer. Holding it in just makes it worse.

* Actually according to Robin Baker, author of Sperm Wars: The Science of Sex, masturbation is the body's mechanism for getting rid of geriatric sperm. As explained in the book only 1% of an ejaculate population is actually designed to be egg getters (young). The other 99% are either killer sperm (young) or sperm-blocking sperm (malformed geriatric sperm that clog the passageways in cervical mucus so that other sperm cannot get by). The body produces 10,000 sperm per second eventually populating the lower portion of the epididymis with older sperm at the front of the line. For single men, masturbation is a sound sexual strategy because it gets rid of the geriatric sperm and creates a new young/old ratio. Younger sperm have a higher chance of defeating any populating army they may encounter. Males in relationships will usually keep a population of sperm of 500 million in their mate at any given time (depending on certain factors). This population will have a higher mix of geriatric or defensive sperm to fend off an invading army. The author also suggests that behavior that discourages masturbation in society (which happens often) in effect increases the sexual productivity of persons discouraging the act because it increases the chances of their own sperm army against any invading army.

* For women, masturbation is also a sexual strategy and has added health benefits. The speed of which cervical mucus flows will directly effect how strong their cervical filter is. The increased speed of cervical mucus not only fights off infections due to foreign invaders, but it also regulates the number of sperm that passes the cervix and invades the womb. In this way, if a woman has multiple partners, she can either help or hinder one of the partners sperm army against the other.

* Its perfectly normal to start masturbating at 14 despite what the id**t below has written. Some think it is a bad idea and so will come up with lots of things to stop you doing it, they might say your hands will become hairy or your eyesight will grow bad, etc. but trust me Ive been masturbating for years now and I'm fine. it says below that 2 years after beginning to masturbate you will stop growing yet more than 2 years after starting I'm still growing and I'm one of the tallest in my class and yes my arms are the same length. ignore the crazy dude below hes just a fanatic but listen to the others, they have good advice. but if by this question you meant that you are worried you are starting too late or early rather than being worried about starting at all, then don't worry. it is perfectly normal to start at any age. i know someone who started when he was 11, but i also know someone who started when he was 15. trust me, there is no "right time" to start apart from when YOU feel you want to. trust me.

* Masturbation is very normal. It is not a bad thing and nature's way. Of course I wouldn't make a career out of it. Younger men often masturbate and men will masturbate almost throughout their lives. Sometimes it's a necessity (if a man isn't with a woman at the present time) to just wants to feel the pleasure it produces. To masturbate constantly and not have a life is not healthy. Masturbation will often take the place of the actual sex act, and it also can be used during the sex act with your partner to excite each other.

* Masturbation can be used to help one relax or even fall asleep during periods of insomnia. It can also be used to help rid depression.

* It's addicting, and the addiction can become worse until you can't live without doing once or more a day.

* It causes you to produce more sexual desire than you normally would (in males, more semen), and thus your addiction is furthered

* It is usually accompanied by pornography, which has been shown to reduce or hamper intimacy with others if you decide to have a steady girlfriend or boyfriend, or get married.

* If you are addicted, it's really bad for your health, other activities, sports, studies or work. Involving in other activities which soothes you is a best option so that it don't become your habit.

* According to a recent study on the subject of masturbation it was found that the percentage of people that masturbated regularly to replace normal sexual intercourse had a lower incidence of prostrate cancer and other problems when they grew older. people who like sex want to have sex often and when they don't they masturbate this settles the mind and gives them a good nights sleep. the only biblical reference that relates to this is a matter of interpretation put forward by killjoys.

* Frequent masturbation is now linked to increased prostate cancer risk in young males (within their 20's) by as much as 79%. However, masturbation in older men (age 50+) lowers the risk. See the WebMD link below

* The study referenced above that purports to link frequent masturbation to prostate cancer also says that "different studies of this question, done in different ways, have reached different conclusions." The researchers were not able to conclude the reasons for their results, but speculated that perhaps "young men genetically predisposed to have hormone-sensitive prostate cancer will be at higher risk if their bodies naturally produce high levels of male hormones -- the same hormones that give them an intense sex drive." So, they point out, "it's not masturbation itself that's increasing prostate cancer risk in young men. More masturbation may just mean more sex drive -- and more androgens bathing prostate tissues."

Mr Ian

i just wanna know how to stop it- im body building but i find it hard to stop for atleast 3 days. help HELP HELP!