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Hello again. Okay, so today is Saturday, March 13th. This morning, I did my usual. I took 9 pills. Then another 10. Then a while later another 10. Then we ran a bunch of errands. Got home, made lunch for the kids, baked a birthday cake for my husband. I took 12 pills to get my "one last high" and then napped with my son. My eldest was at a friends house. That was about 12:00 noon. After that, I checked this site and saw the wonderful replies which gave me a renewed strength. I quite honestly had given up.

So it is now 8:00pm and I haven't taken any more. I am anticipating an early night, as we all had horrible sleeps last night. I am almost out of pills (I purchased a bottle of 200 on Thursday afternoon) but won't get them with my kids. My oldest son is nearly 8, and I don't want him knowing what's going on. So, earlier today at the rate I was going, I would've needed more pills. Now it is not a worry until at least tomorrow. And I do have some time without my children tomorrow which is good.

As for this moment, I feel like c**p. My youngest son has a bad bug (cold I think with a slight fever) so I don't know if that is part of it. I had diarrhea about 1 1/2 hours ago and am feeling very hot. I wouldn't say the headache is that bad. The worst feeling right now is that I just feel not right in the head. Really foggy I guess. And I was starting to get HIGHLY agitated. So I took one oxycodone. I researched this today, and it does not contain codeine so I feel okay taking it.

And there's the harsh update. I am an addict. I failed after only 1 week. But I am picking myself up and trying again. And it is in large part due to YOU, the kind people responding to me, and the over 135 people who have read my posts that I hope can gain something from them. Tomorrow is a very busy day, so hopefully that can help keep my mind off of the pills. I will write again tomorrow with the update.... and that is a promise.
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Sunday March 13, 2010. Last night I felt horrible. I hadn't planned on taking anything esle, but changed my mind. I ended up taking 2 aleve along with 5 tylenol 1. The night was pretty good. This morning I had my usual headache, and I took 8 tylenol 1. My mind really wanted to take more, but I resisted. I am feeling okay. We are heading out for a super busy day today, so I won't update until late tonight or tomorrow morning (more likely). I checked and I have enouogh pills for today and possibly tomorrow if I stick to my reduced schedule, so don't need to worry about that today.
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Hi there,

I don't know where you live, but here in Canada, detox is free. It cost me nothing except "confession". I had to admit I had a problem and make that call. It was the biggest relief of my life.

My friends had no idea - my family had no idea. Only my husband knew, but he didn't know the real extent of it.

Once I made the call to detox, they told me to come in that night. Then I called my husband and asked him to come home because I had something to tell him. When he arrived, all worried, I said "I'm going to detox". He said: "Is that it? I'm proud of you honey."

Telling my friends and family was hard, but it was a fantastic relief. They were, and are, all incredibly supportive.

People WANT you to do well. So why wouldn't they want you to get the help you need and deserve?

There is no shame in being an addict. There are many of us. Millions of us.

Also, most of your family and friends, even if they don't know you are addicted, probably notice some changes in you. Once you get clean they will definitely IMMEDIATELY notice a huge change in you.

I stayed in detox for 10 days. It is generally five to seven days but I stayed longer. Guess I liked it too much!!

You can treat it as a hospital stay. I mean, if your appendix burst, you would go to the hospital, right? This is the same thing. A real illness that has real and deadly consequences.

I used to think I was the only person who scarfed 100 pills a day and pharmacy shopped and was turned down by pharmacists etcetera. It was a terrible burden of shame and guilt.

I learned there are many of us and if we are willing to be HONEST about our problem, we can lick it.

Today I feel I have my life back.

I am no longer run by pills - the fear of running out of pills - the fear of not being able to get more pills - the rituals of taking pills - the counting out of pills - the hiding of pills. The fear of the pain of withdrawal.

I took them for endometriosis and back pain. But an addiction doctor or a doctor of any sort will be more than happy to work with you to find alternatives to narcotics. There ARE alternatives out there.

Good luck.
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I think you're doing super! Keep it up! You can do it all the way!

As someone who's had migraine headaches since childhood, I can very well relate to your fears of enduring one without pain relief. Have you tried Imitrex or the like? They are non-narcotic and not addicting. For me, imitrex works and keeps me free of the pain. However, I have found a much better source and since I've come to the other side of living on pain pills (not living on any for 3 months now) I changed a lot of other things too, like my diet. I mostly eat raw foods and I avoid pretty much all dairy. I don't eat meat with antibiotics and hormones in it (which is in most everything available); I find other sources. I've not had one migraine in about 3 months whereas before I was having anywhere from 5 a month to 3 a day for days on end... and for the last 3 months I've not spent any money to cure a migraine! Yeah!

Someone suggested caffeine but I have to say, I would avoid that too, as weaning off caffeine is one painful headache WEEK (well for me anyway). Make sure you stay hydrated by drinking lots of pure water throughout the day - it will make a huge difference! Avoid anything sweeteners like nutrasweet, aspartame, (it's in chewing gum-avoid!) etc. These cause lots of problems too.

I really think the key is in diet for headache/migraine relief! It is for me and I suffered viciously with them for over 40 yrs. I don't even carry emergency migraine meds with me anymore, that's how confident I am I won't be getting one - as long as I eat what's best.

One more thing, as I was coming off opiates part of the withdrawal process for me was a series of migraine headaches... but I kept going (imitrex helped) and once I was off the opiates I've never had one since.

Best to you! I admire your courage.
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Thank-you. So supportive and encouraging to hear from others.

As for today, it is now 7pm. I am in quite a lot of pain. We went to the circus this afternoon. My headaches are triggered by lights and noise, and there's plenty of that at the circus! I ended up taking 7 pills at about 2:30pm. So that is a total of 15 today. With the way that I feel, I would normally have 10 right now and probably another 30 before the end of the night. I am fighting to resist it. I took 2 Aleve at dinner. I am really in pain, and I took one oxycodone just a few minutes ago. I really don't know why I keep taking these. I swear they leave me with a worse headache.

If need be, I will take 5 more before bed. We'll wait and see on that one.

As for Imitrix, I cannot take it. I took it once and was extremely allergic. Many of the true migraine medicines are in the same family with the same active ingredients, so I can't take these.

I do really need to start eating better. I LOVE milk, and we go through about 16 litres a week here. I know I need to cut down on dairy (very hard for me) and sugars, white flour, yeast, etc. I have been to a few doctors specializing in migraines. I guess I just never felt like committing because I really enjoy my food!

Well, I am really struggling with shame and embarassment. I don't want to tell my family doctor. If I go to detox for 5 days, that would be okay with my work. But I don't know who would watch my kids. I don't want to tell my husband. I would ideally like an outpatient treatment, if that is at all possible. I have no idea. If this tapering will work for me, I think that would ultimately be the best. I could do it on my own, and not burden anybody else with my problems.

I am in Canada. In Alberta. Is AADAC the best place to contact?

Thanks! I will try to hang in there for tonight. I am curious to see how many of my headaches are true headaches vs. rebound or withdrawal headaches. Maybe my life isn't even as bad/painful as I think it is? I had planned to go exercise this evening, but my head is hurting too much right now. I don't expect the kids back for at least 1/2 hour, so maybe I'll try for a nap!
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NAPS ARE GREAT!!!!! i'm so glad to hear that you are really starting to come alone and are doing a fantastic job pushing your way through this. also i'm glad to see that there are some recovered addict here helping you as well since they can offer tons more help than i can... keep up the fantastic work :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D 8)
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Morning update. March 15th. Well, I broke last night and took 6 pills. A total of 21 yesterday. Not too bad, really. This morning (5:30) I haven't taken anything and won't until I need to. I also made another big step yesterday. I contacted AADAC. As for detox, they do not have outpatient detox. They did give me the number and address to their counselling service where I can discuss other options. So I will try to get there this week. The first appointment is as a walk-in. The hard thing here is my husband is working nights, so I have to be home shortly after work. I don't think lunch-hour will be enough time. Regarding inpatient detox, it is 3-7 days depending on withdrawals. So if I could go on a Saturday I would miss only a week "holidays" from work. But that would mean confessing to my husband and family for child care purposes. I still think my best solution is to do this myself by tapering. We'll see what the counselling service has to say about maybe medication to help out while at home. Even if I could spend all day at detox and just go home for evening and nights, that would be great. Anyways, I'll do an evening update with pills taken, etc.
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I'm sure a lot of it headache is rebound headaches. Those pills are full of caffeine, too, remember. I know when I stopped taking them I woke up with a cracking headache for the first three days or so.

In Alberta, yes, your provincial addiction facility would be the place to call.

As far as not wanting to tell your husband: may I ask why not? Do you think he doesn't know, or suspect? What are you afraid of? It sounds like you may be "catastrophizing" people's reactions. It is never as bad as you fear. You need to overcome your fear, shame, and guilt.

You can do it. Maybe you can taper. I know I never could, but that's just me. I know a lot of people have tapered off. With me, as an addict, if I could take them, I would take them.

Another thing you might want to think of is pills anonymous. That would be a very supportive group for you. There would be a lot of people there who have gone through exactly what you are going through.

Good luck and keep posting, regardless of how many pills you are taking. You have taken the first step: admitting you have a problem!
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In my experience, coming off opiates was about my relentless commitment to getting on the other side of being on drugs, no matter the cost. What boggled my mind was how no dr. ever told me that opiates actually cause pain!!! Yes, they do!!! And when coming off them, it's like the body is saying, "NO! NO! You aren't taking that away from me!" So just to show you, as you are coming off, more pain than normal kicks in... just to "remind" you of your dependence. But what a lie!!!

So I pushed through the pain... that means, I was in pain and I endured the pain. But actually, it wasn't worse than a lot of other kinds of pain I had... it wasn't worse than the having the flu for a week, in fact, it was comparable. ...and really, only 1 or 2 days made me want to stay in bed. Personally, I'd save your money and avoid detox center. Look how much you've already reduced what you're on!!! I am a little concerned you are taking oxycodone. What is the amount? It's just substituting one opiate for another?

I was taking total of mscontin 60mg/day and 150mg oxycodone/day - on this c**p for 7 yrs - after a serious auto accident that left me with a compressed spinal cord injury, damaging my neck (C3, C4, C5). In 10 days I weaned myself off all of it.

- Here's the Trick to Weaning -

1. Endure more than you think you can.

2. Cut down everything you take every one to two days. (I did it by cutting it in half, or more if I could, over and over until I was left with just a small amount - so small I couldn't practically break it any further.)

If you can't function then take slightly more, but remember, sacrifice is part of the deal to the other side.

I don't know what to tell your family or work, but if you do this at home and have a couple of really bad days that put you in bed... tell them it feels like the flu and you won't be lying. On the other hand, why would they think less of you for getting off pills... you said you had a legitimate reason to start (headaches) and any opiate (and a lot of other drugs including OTC) create physical dependency. Wouldn't they admire and support you for taking control of your life and finding a healthier way to deal with things?

3. Put greater spans of time between taking any pills.

At first I was experiencing withdrawals after 3.5-4hrs. So I extended time of next pill to 6hrs, then 8hrs, then 12hrs, then 14hrs, then I jumped to 24hrs.) Do this at the same time you are reducing the amount you take. The way you judge how much (time and pills) is by asking yourself, "Can I endure the way I am feeling? Am I pushing myself beyond my comfort zone and am I still 'all right'?" It's kind of like working out... the more the muscles burn the more good it does. So make it burn - that's what you want!

4. The last little pill - when to jump off for good: not when you're ready, but when you can... and don't lie to yourself!

You'll never know what it's like to be free and on the other side of dependency until YOU go there. There is nothing so liberating!!! There is nothing like pure freedom!!! (I could write a whole book on this part of the journey alone!)

I whittled down to taking 3mg oxycodone to 24 hrs. and only did that for 2 days and then I was done... never looking back.

By the time I got down to 3mg oxycodone 24 hrs apart, it amazed me how good that tiny, little amount could make me feel! It brought me back to life... that wee, miniscule piece! It made me mad that it had that kind of power over my body. I became defiant! Since I had already been going through withdrawal, I wondered how I would feel without taking anything and would it make me feel even worse? Well, it didn't get any worse than what I had already been feeling. It did drag on another week, but I was able to endure it well and my life didn't stop either... I kept doing things every day, leaving my home, working, etc. In fact, "doing" is a great distraction for what you're body is going through - takes the focus off suffering, granting the gift of passage of time.

There are some things you can do to ease the effects of withdrawal. There's a lot of great advice in these blogs. I'm happy to share too if you're interested. One thing for sure, for sure: take good nutritional supplements that work (I take Lifepak Nano and some others from Pharmanex - I can point you to a discount on them if you want) and that was a lifesaver!

Stay strong... strength is a choice.
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I am on day 14 of withdrawal and feel really depressed with unexplained bouts of crying. In addition I have no motivation to do anything. When will I start feeling good or at least like I can function normally?
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Tuesday. Well, I took 7 pills yesterday morning around 8:30am. I went the whole day without any. I went to bed but tossed and turned and got really agitated. So I took another 7 and went back to bed just fine about an hour later. That means a total of 14 yesterday.... my best day yet!

I have Aleve and now Advil liquid gels extra strength to help with pain and avoid headaches. Interestingly enough, my husband noticed these. I told him I don't want to take tylenol 1 anymore. He knows I take them sometimes but not that it has been a problem. He said that he read my codiene addiction thing on the computer. I guess I forgot to close a link. I don't think he read this journal, just that I was researching it. In any event, he knows I have a concern and he is quite okay with it!

To all of my new friends here, have a great day!
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See? He has no problem with it! Not as bad as you thought, eh?

I know when I fessed up to my husband, and told the TRUTH, it was great. I felt relief! Also, he didn't bat an eye. He said he loves me and wanted me to get better!

To the person who's on day 14, hang in there! It does get better, sooner than you think. I know for me it took about three weeks to get rid of all the withdrawal, including the horrible restless leg syndrome.

And as someone else said, once you hit the other side, it is JOYFUL!

Also, 14 pills in a day is fabulous! I could never do that. If I had em, I ate em. Which of course led me down very bad and dishonest paths that I am still trying to overcome. I can't believe the person that addiction turned me into.

Good luck and KEEP TRYING!
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Changingtime - Congratulations to taking ONLY 14 pills! I'm so excited for you. Keep going... you're nearing homestretch!



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Guest of 14 days withdrawal:







I too had extreme emotions... one minute I was laughing and the next crying and sometimes I did both at the same time (however that worked!). Yes, it's a very odd time and YES, YES, YES, hang in there because it ABSOLUTELY WILL SUBSIDE! If you're on day 14 from the last time you took anything, I would think you're getting very close to that part ending.



I read in another post from a man who said each week it got better and better and by week 6 he felt pretty much back to normal. For me I really noticed a big difference by week 5 and I agree with that man, each week was noticeably better than the one before. The absolute worst part of it all for me was detoxing. My liver was bloated and I could barely walk. I couldn't wear anything tight around my mid section due to the swollen liver. I haven't heard anybody else talk about a swollen liver so maybe I had other things going on??? But I don't think detoxing is abnormal. It's like the body realizes that stuff is not coming back and it wants to dump all the poisons its accumulated at once... anyway, that part lasted at least 4 weeks for me.



14 days is record! It won't be long until you achieve relief.
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Wednesday March 17th - Happy St. Patty's Day!
Yesterday was another 14 pill day for me! I held off until about 10:30 am for 7 pills. I was good for most of the day, quite uncomfortable with a headache so I took the other 7 around 6:30pm. I have bought Extra Strength Advil liquid gels to see if that will help with the headaches. My goal today is 12 pills. Yesterday I really wanted another dose later in the evening but fought through it. I am running low on pills and will need to buy some today or tomorrow. But not bad as I originally thought I'd be buying on Sunday and I haven't had to yet!
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Thursday - struggled through a very bad headache day yesterday. A total of 14 again, so no improvement but still good. Haven't bought yet, definitely have to today.
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