If anyone is still experiencing pain in your teeth/gums/ear/or jaw after having dental work or gum or jaw surgery you may have a condition called Trigeminal Neuralgia (google it) it is caused by negligent dentists or oral surgeons that were either in a hurry and didn't care, bad at their job, or just plain stupid. Whoever signed in as guest and said their dentist told them the pain would go away in a couple weeks your dentist obviously knows he f'ed something up and is trying to cover it up. Dental work should be completely painless in 2-7 days. If anyone suspects they have Trigeminal Neuralgia you need to consult a neurologist and a lawyer, your gonna need a lot of advice about how to talk to your pcp and/or neurologist to get the proper medications because this is a rare condition that most drs only read a paragraph about in school and i've studied it for 2 years. They may try and give you Tegretol, this is a dangerous medicine that needs to be taken off the market, in at least half of people that take it loose a large percentage of blood plate counts within a matter of days and end up sick in the hospital, they use it because it does sometimes relieve pain in people that can handle it but even if you feel ok it could make you randomly drop dead anytime, it causes random blood vessel bursting and random bruising even without doing anything that would cause a bruise and may cause aneurisms or other sudden organ failure. They use it as an excuse to try and not give you proper pain meds especially if you are younger to try and keep themselves from being investigated from the DEA if they are more concerned about themselves and not your life. If your pcp and/or neuro won't give you pain relief try an anethesiologist or pain management clinic. If you have constant swollen glands or constant pain that drives you insane and makes you fantasize about filing your own teeth or cutting open your own glands or cutting off your ear and half your face with no novacaine, you have it. You will need opiate pain meds because long term pain stress that occurs for years at a time may cause random organ failure even if you have regular blood work and are told all your organs are text book perfect, they could just randomly fail. If you have swollen glands it is because the nerve is calling for more blood thinking it is infected and knows it's damaged, the swelling puts pressure on the nerve...which calls for more swelling...which causes more pain...and more swelling, it's a vicious cycle that will not stop until you take an opiate and relieve the pain, prednisone will help if you've been swollen more than a couple days but pain relief is absolutely necessary b/c the glands will overfill and flow into backup glands and then release their toxins into your body giving you flu symptoms. Long term gland swelling may lead to Lymphoma, a form of Cancer, from the long term toxins going through your lymph nodes(glands). If you are one of those people that are against opiates and treat other people that are in pain and use pain pills like they are beneath you, you may want to change your views or lower your life expectancy(I understand hating recreational addicts as most of them are thieves but I never understood why most people treat honest pain patients like they are less than human, that is beyond me, if they don't lie or steal or do anything bad to you what reason do you have to treat them like c**p?). If you need help talking to your dr or getting a lawyer to take your case (they will hang up on you as soon as they hear the word dental even if it says dental on their website b/c they think it's just a small injury that they won't make enough money off of but odds are you already can't work or eventually won't be able to and you may need help getting disability and sueing the dentist or oral surgeon that damaged your nerve. This is actually a huge case for a lawyer b/c you can sue for your income however much you make per year for the rest of your life expectancy plus pain and suffering depending on your age and income, health and other factors you may be able to sue for over 7 figures.) email me with TRIGEMINAL NEURALGIA in the subject line so I know it's not spam. I will help you get the proper medical care so you may go back to living your life normally or at least just not wanting to die everyday like I used to. I have a near 140 IQ with some legal knowledge from real estate and my own personal cases from this condition (it's considered a disease once you have it) I will tell you how to go about getting the correct evidence to win your disability and malpractice cases. Unless you are really lucky you will not find a dr that knows the proper tests needed for a diagnoses, the tests needed for legal purposes I.E. you need an MRI to rule out Multiple Sclerosis to prove your nerve was damaged by your oral surgery and not MS or pressure on the nerve in the brain, how to get a lawyer not to hang up on you when calling about dental malpractice, and the proper drugs you need to live and keep your sanity. Depending on how badly your nerve is damaged you may be experiencing terminal level pain that can be more painful than terminal diseases even though the disease itself is not terminal the secondary conditions caused from the disease could be terminal in extremely rare cases, nothing to worry about if you get the proper care. Email , again write "TRIGEMINAL NEURALGIA" in the subject line so I know it's not spam. I hope you all are feeling better and don't have what I have. I am not a dr but I have years of research on this and and other forms of chronic oral, jaw and ear pain. Also I'm not a lawyer but I do have legal training from working in the real estate business so I know how to look up, research and help you understand the laws you will need to know about. If it's been more than 2 years from your injury date there is a law that says you cannot sue for malpractice after two years but there is a loophole to get around this that you will need to ask your lawyer to look into because this is one of only a few rare diseases caused by malpractice that can overide this law due to the average time it takes to be diagnosed because this disease masks itself as dental/tmj/ear problems even though it is in fact nerve damage caused from malpractice. DO NOT TAKE YOUR TIME GETTING DIAGNOSED AND GETTING A LAWYER TO TAKE YOUR CASE! Symptoms of Trigeminal Neuralgia can be: Chronic teeth and/or gum, jaw, face, gland, and ear pain. It may feel like your teeth aren't fitting together right even though they are. It may feel like a constant or most of the time toothache, ear ache, gum pain, ear pain, face pain. Could be one or all of these symptoms, if you have constant swollen glands in the ear area contact me ASAP. You may have a constant hot, itchy, or burning sensation in any of the areas I mentioned and it may randomly throb in those areas at times when your having a nerve attack. Even if you don't suspect this disease and just need help with chronic tooth,jaw, or ear pain feel free to contact me anyway, I have tons of research on chronic face area pains and can help you deal with it and tell you what to have your dentist or dr check for.
-Jason
P.S. If you have and are taking medication for attention deficit disorder you will need to stop taking the ADD meds and learn how to deal with your ADD naturally. ADD medication will increase oral, face, and ear pain 10 times over! Stay away from strong stimulants especially adderal or ritalin and pretty much any medicine for ADD, this will help get rid of over half of your pain. ADD meds also slightly aggrevate back pain if you have knots in your back muscles. Always consult your dr before stopping these medications as they need to be tapered off slowly.
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-Jason
P.S. If you have and are taking medication for attention deficit disorder you will need to stop taking the ADD meds and learn how to deal with your ADD naturally. ADD medication will increase oral, face, and ear pain 10 times over! Stay away from strong stimulants especially adderal or ritalin and pretty much any medicine for ADD, this will help get rid of over half of your pain. ADD meds also slightly aggrevate back pain if you have knots in your back muscles. Always consult your dr before stopping these medications as they need to be tapered off slowly.
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Forgot to mention, about the possible sulfa allergies, it takes a day or maybe a couple days to build up in your bloodstream sometimes so if you were taking it prior or after having caines, it might be the sulfa and not the caines. I have a sulfa allergy that caused my cheeks to swell, rapid heart beat, chest burning, and numbness in my left wrist and fingers, it took 2 days to get the sulfa out of me and lots of benadryl.
A few years ago I took my mother to the dentist. She was in her 70"s. He gave her epinephrine and she had trouble breathing and was taken to the hospital. Sadly it affected her very badly because as she got older she was never the same. And my sisters and I believe it also started her senelity. I'm having dental work now, and I told him not to give me epinephrine. I also suffer from panic attacks and I don't want to take that and make my heart pound. If I were you, I would tell the Dentist not to give you anymore of it.
48 hours of pain and misery leads into REAL Torture and I’m alone.
Thursday the 16th rolls around and the days leading up to this I have had some pain from a rear tooth that popped a filling….So I call a Dentist office from our insurance provider list and speak to someone to make an apt. They get me in on the 16th cool… I tell them I do not get paid till Friday; they say no problem come in.
So I am there after work and I am filling out the paper work… again the papers say have to have payment up front. Again before I even go in I tell them I do not get paid till tomorrow (Friday) they say no problem….
So I see the lady DDS and she squirts some cold spray on the tooth and I jump in the site with a yelp… I could have told her it hurt without that. So she tells me it’s because of an infection and it’s ok it’s a back tooth and she can pull it… so they prep me and I am laying there and then all of a sudden someone else comes in comes in and this lady and has more papers to sign and says to me…no money no fix… come back tomorrow. So they give me some prescription for the pain....(Notice something missing..? more on this later.)
So I head home to sleep because I have to work that night… I take the pill at 2pm and go to sleep… well that night as I get up for work is the start of the longest night ever… The pill made me dizzy and nauseous. All night at work… so imagine having to struggle through the night on your feet feeling this way and with the pain, this sick feeling stayed with me all the way to the next day and back to the DDS.
So now there I am again at 8 10am on Friday… I pay them their money because I can’t even get through the door till then it seems. Now the fun part….
The lady Dentist comes in and she also has this very young lady as an assistant. Must have been not even 20 yet…I mean she is a kid…more on this later…
Now the Dentist starts the prep and sticks me with the needles 8 times. And we wait… and NOTHING….still hurts. Everything BUT the tooth is numb. So she hits me with 4 more shots…and we wait and nothing.. Now she changes the stuff she is using and says “Ok this is the good stuff…”
So 8 more shots around the tooth and is hurting like there is no tomorrow.
She waits and decides ok, she is going to go for it….Some in she goes.. she is moving and wiggling the tooth and I am feeling it. Tears in my eyes and voicing an AHHHHHHHWWWWOWOW when I can… she says “Its moving” there is a CRUNCH and it hurt even worse… she leaves the room suddenly, leaving me and the young assistant who looks like she saw a ghost.
The assistant heads out and that’s when it hits me… I start to feel very dizzy and sick I try to lay down more hoping the desperate feeling of sickness and black out coming on will stop. Heart racing like it was going to explode... I called out a couple times and no one came back, One last time I call out “A Little Help Here!”
Several people come in now and there activity, I could not make out faces, I must have passed out a bit at this point, I feel cold towel at my head and tey lay the chair back and I lay on my side, begging for a bucket in case I vomit like I feel like I would…They bring a trash can over to me. They all leave and are a buzz in another room and I could not make anything out… they left the young Assistant in with me again…A few minutes passed and I felt a bit better. The world was still spinning though…
I ask her what happened and she walked out of the room. I hear her in hurried and obviously scared tomes telling someone else that I am asking questions and she does not know what to tell me. Whoever she was talking to spoke lower and sent her back in… the assistant was clearly upset and could not look at me for long. I felt like she was afraid to look at me. I moaned in pain throughout this I could not help it…I tried to ask her if something went wrong…She stared at the floor instead and said I would have to wait for the dentist to come back.
I decided to go into soft interrogation mode. I asked her how long she has done this… With the Dentist office, she said A Month. So this gave me an entry point to her…I sympathized and told her it must be difficult sometimes when something unexpected happens.
So then she paused a second and then opened up on her real thoughts. I could tell she did not like the situation. She started to say over and over throughout this conversation…she did not understand why the dentist did not prescribe an anti-biotic to first get rid of infection before trying anything. She said it was all wrong, and that they are charging me for this and that now they are going to have to send me to a surgeon instead and they would charge me even more then.
Ok now about an hour of lying there (It’s been two hours since I got there in the chair by the way) the lady from the front office comes in, she is the coordinator for the office who I later learn is there to evaluate and fix problems in the office…..hmmm.
So this lady tells me that the tooth is broken to the gun line now and that they have to get me over to surgery… so she packs me off and I am on my way.
Get over to the surgeon, they RE X-ray things and that hurt because now I am swollen from the damage and trauma caused by the needles and pliers…. So the tooth is broke to the gum line and the roots are growing crooked and things are cracked at the jaw too. No wonder it hurts.
This surgeon also says I had a reaction to the mix of numbing agents used. That’s why I am feeling sick. So here we go again…he does 6 shots and we wait… nothing, he does 3 more… PAIN…still.
So now he says… it’s because of the infection the numbing agents have no effect. It’s blocked by the infection. (NOTE no one ever gave me an anti-biotic to get rid of this infection first) So I ask about maybe going on some anti-biotic and just coming back after the infection goes down or gone…He says that no, now with the break I would be in even worse pain than before…He has to take care of it… so he gets a drill….and with me feeling every bit of it… drills down into the tooth and the nerve. I had to wrap my arms under the arms rests and around and all I could do was scream….and I did.
My heart is racing now and I feel like it will burst, tears are flowing freely I have never felt anything like this before in my life… THEN, he goes in with the needle…right into the tooth and the nerve, 4 more shots right down into the tooth… into the nerve and I could do nothing but scream…he waits a few moments more and does 3 more. So more screams…..
I was being tortured and I could do nothing but take it… I felt so alone. I am not proud but I wanted to die right there…I felt I would because I started to have problems breathing, I felt my pulse exploding through my head….
Then he went in with the pliers, more shots of sharp pain. Crunching and breaking... he broke it up and pulled out the pieces…But it was not over.
He then announces he does things a bit different than other dentists and, he had to do a bone graft, so he goes in with this awl thing, and proceeds to crunch away pushing in the remaining bones into each other…he says to heal better.
It’s over at last… I at last get home and call in to work they know the trouble I had been having.
Went to sleep and I kept waking up screaming in a sweat. Having flash backs to the pain and torture. A dental procedure? I am sorry. It was torture, nothing else you can call it.
Even now as I write this I feel hot and still a bit hard to breathe, I feel dizzy still. Somehow I hoped that by writing out this experience, it can make the flash backs stop. Somehow., maybe…All I know Is I am alone and I can’t wait for my wife to get back, maybe the nightmares will go away.
Thursday the 16th rolls around and the days leading up to this I have had some pain from a rear tooth that popped a filling….So I call a Dentist office from our insurance provider list and speak to someone to make an apt. They get me in on the 16th cool… I tell them I do not get paid till Friday; they say no problem come in.
So I am there after work and I am filling out the paper work… again the papers say have to have payment up front. Again before I even go in I tell them I do not get paid till tomorrow (Friday) they say no problem….
So I see the lady DDS and she squirts some cold spray on the tooth and I jump in the site with a yelp… I could have told her it hurt without that. So she tells me it’s because of an infection and it’s ok it’s a back tooth and she can pull it… so they prep me and I am laying there and then all of a sudden someone else comes in comes in and this lady and has more papers to sign and says to me…no money no fix… come back tomorrow. So they give me some prescription for the pain....(Notice something missing..? more on this later.)
So I head home to sleep because I have to work that night… I take the pill at 2pm and go to sleep… well that night as I get up for work is the start of the longest night ever… The pill made me dizzy and nauseous. All night at work… so imagine having to struggle through the night on your feet feeling this way and with the pain, this sick feeling stayed with me all the way to the next day and back to the DDS.
So now there I am again at 8 10am on Friday… I pay them their money because I can’t even get through the door till then it seems. Now the fun part….
The lady Dentist comes in and she also has this very young lady as an assistant. Must have been not even 20 yet…I mean she is a kid…more on this later…
Now the Dentist starts the prep and sticks me with the needles 8 times. And we wait… and NOTHING….still hurts. Everything BUT the tooth is numb. So she hits me with 4 more shots…and we wait and nothing.. Now she changes the stuff she is using and says “Ok this is the good stuff…”
So 8 more shots around the tooth and is hurting like there is no tomorrow.
She waits and decides ok, she is going to go for it….Some in she goes.. she is moving and wiggling the tooth and I am feeling it. Tears in my eyes and voicing an AHHHHHHHWWWWOWOW when I can… she says “Its moving” there is a CRUNCH and it hurt even worse… she leaves the room suddenly, leaving me and the young assistant who looks like she saw a ghost.
The assistant heads out and that’s when it hits me… I start to feel very dizzy and sick I try to lay down more hoping the desperate feeling of sickness and black out coming on will stop. Heart racing like it was going to explode... I called out a couple times and no one came back, One last time I call out “A Little Help Here!”
Several people come in now and there activity, I could not make out faces, I must have passed out a bit at this point, I feel cold towel at my head and tey lay the chair back and I lay on my side, begging for a bucket in case I vomit like I feel like I would…They bring a trash can over to me. They all leave and are a buzz in another room and I could not make anything out… they left the young Assistant in with me again…A few minutes passed and I felt a bit better. The world was still spinning though…
I ask her what happened and she walked out of the room. I hear her in hurried and obviously scared tomes telling someone else that I am asking questions and she does not know what to tell me. Whoever she was talking to spoke lower and sent her back in… the assistant was clearly upset and could not look at me for long. I felt like she was afraid to look at me. I moaned in pain throughout this I could not help it…I tried to ask her if something went wrong…She stared at the floor instead and said I would have to wait for the dentist to come back.
I decided to go into soft interrogation mode. I asked her how long she has done this… With the Dentist office, she said A Month. So this gave me an entry point to her…I sympathized and told her it must be difficult sometimes when something unexpected happens.
So then she paused a second and then opened up on her real thoughts. I could tell she did not like the situation. She started to say over and over throughout this conversation…she did not understand why the dentist did not prescribe an anti-biotic to first get rid of infection before trying anything. She said it was all wrong, and that they are charging me for this and that now they are going to have to send me to a surgeon instead and they would charge me even more then.
Ok now about an hour of lying there (It’s been two hours since I got there in the chair by the way) the lady from the front office comes in, she is the coordinator for the office who I later learn is there to evaluate and fix problems in the office…..hmmm.
So this lady tells me that the tooth is broken to the gun line now and that they have to get me over to surgery… so she packs me off and I am on my way.
Get over to the surgeon, they RE X-ray things and that hurt because now I am swollen from the damage and trauma caused by the needles and pliers…. So the tooth is broke to the gum line and the roots are growing crooked and things are cracked at the jaw too. No wonder it hurts.
This surgeon also says I had a reaction to the mix of numbing agents used. That’s why I am feeling sick. So here we go again…he does 6 shots and we wait… nothing, he does 3 more… PAIN…still.
So now he says… it’s because of the infection the numbing agents have no effect. It’s blocked by the infection. (NOTE no one ever gave me an anti-biotic to get rid of this infection first) So I ask about maybe going on some anti-biotic and just coming back after the infection goes down or gone…He says that no, now with the break I would be in even worse pain than before…He has to take care of it… so he gets a drill….and with me feeling every bit of it… drills down into the tooth and the nerve. I had to wrap my arms under the arms rests and around and all I could do was scream….and I did.
My heart is racing now and I feel like it will burst, tears are flowing freely I have never felt anything like this before in my life… THEN, he goes in with the needle…right into the tooth and the nerve, 4 more shots right down into the tooth… into the nerve and I could do nothing but scream…he waits a few moments more and does 3 more. So more screams…..
I was being tortured and I could do nothing but take it… I felt so alone. I am not proud but I wanted to die right there…I felt I would because I started to have problems breathing, I felt my pulse exploding through my head….
Then he went in with the pliers, more shots of sharp pain. Crunching and breaking... he broke it up and pulled out the pieces…But it was not over.
He then announces he does things a bit different than other dentists and, he had to do a bone graft, so he goes in with this awl thing, and proceeds to crunch away pushing in the remaining bones into each other…he says to heal better.
It’s over at last… I at last get home and call in to work they know the trouble I had been having.
Went to sleep and I kept waking up screaming in a sweat. Having flash backs to the pain and torture. A dental procedure? I am sorry. It was torture, nothing else you can call it.
Even now as I write this I feel hot and still a bit hard to breathe, I feel dizzy still. Somehow I hoped that by writing out this experience, it can make the flash backs stop. Somehow., maybe…All I know Is I am alone and I can’t wait for my wife to get back, maybe the nightmares will go away.
Okay, I have trigeminal neuralgia, and not only the pain
but also the spasms can be enough to want to die.
You said you know of medications other than Tegretol
that relieved your misery. PLEASE RESPOND AND LET ME
KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE ARE!
TIA!
roywunderlich
but also the spasms can be enough to want to die.
You said you know of medications other than Tegretol
that relieved your misery. PLEASE RESPOND AND LET ME
KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE ARE!
TIA!
roywunderlich
Trigemenal neuralgia. Hello i read ur post. Want to know what doctor to see for proper diagnosis and what meds are best for this. Pls contact me thanx
I had that happen on 2 occasions after Novacaine. Seriously thought I was dying. Shaking so bad had to sit on my hands trying to control shaking. Doctor said I'm allergic.
I had my 2nd lower molar extracted 10 days ago by a local dentist. It was a difficult extraction without anesthesia and the area was difficult to numb I kept having to stop the dentist because I could feel it. He was pushing my jaw from side to side over and over causing jaw popping and extreme headache, finally the tooth came out, but had 3 roots and one was left in place. The dentist continued to work for apps 30 more min to remove this small root, using a drill and any tool he could get to work. I could feel him scraping into my bone. It finally came out. He commented that this was his hardest case yet. After a suture and packing u left. 2-3 days later started having increased pain radiating in ear I called dentist and made an appt to see him on Monday (5 days post). He packed it and said hr thought it had a dry socket. Pain seemed to improve but on Wednesday night I started experiencing the worst pain of my life. Burning sharp pain radiating in left jaw and teeth and gums. Waking me up at night coming and going. Im a nurse and working s near impossible. I've called my dentist many times and he seems stumped as to what's going on. He's offered me nothing for pain and told me I could go to emergency room an hour away to see an oral surgeon if I wanted. I believe I have post traumatic trigeminal neuralgia but I don't know what yo do.. I can't live like this. sincerely, Cathy
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Try sensodyne toothpaste. It worked for me. It takes about 3 days
Just left the dentist with the right side of my face completely numb. Finished smoking a fat blunt not 5 mins ago. Feel good. No negative reaction. Just intensifies the numb a little. When I smoke before novacaine I actually got numb faster and had less pain during the filling :) don't be scared of marijuana friends.
You can be allergic to absolutely anything. Several people I know have that allergy. Your body produces epephenrine also not actual novacaine
I had the same thing since the spring! I have intermittent gum pain, sensitivity, etc.. and the dentist said there is absolutely nothing wrong with my teeth or gums. I am afraid I will have this pain forever!
i think so you have to contact your doctor immediately.
I had an old filling replaced lower right molar, 3 shots of novacaine to numb the area, a week later the tooth is ok but I feel pressure and pain in my right ear, and can't open my mouth without pain to eat!
I had dental work recently and was given anesthesia with ephedrine. Right after the shot I began to shake for about 15 minutes and then it stopped. I went back to do the second part of the procedure and that time they used anesthesia without ephedrine and I didn't shake. I though it could've been anxiety but it wasn't because it didn't happen the second time. I was told that it's a side effect.