suboxone addiction/withdrawal

im not quite sure how old this is but i seen someone say something about there being no withdrawals from suboxone after the ''week'' he was on it, uhhh yeah obv, i took suboxone for 10 days in detox and was fine the 11 12 13 14 and so on....take the sh*t for a year at a crazy high dose that you dont even think is high cause your dumb sh*t doctor tells you its fine and theeen try to get off of it, yah this is a great drug but some days i feel like i feel to good off of it so i try to take a few days off and i only get up to maybe day 3 and thats when the hell begins and then ends because i can't deal, probably shouldn't have stockpiled those 180 8s on top of a script for 42 every 2 weeks. ....thanks for listenin lol- currently at about 2-4 mgs a day and strugglin!!! suboxones great but dont stay on to long it sucks eggs! :-(

I don't want to say it, but OMG, "

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You REALLY REALLY need to stop. Just get off the internet and go back to your doctor and actually learn about what you're trying to talk about. You're information is so wrong buddy and giving out rediculous and false information like that could get someone killed because god knows what else you're posting. Suboxone is a narcotic. I'm on it. It's great. Been on Suboxone twice now and methadone twice. I'm 22 and had been doing heroin for 4 years up until 8 months ago. Just because you're posting a pro-suboxone response doesn't mean that people are going to agree with you because hopefully no-one will. And you're also telling people to go shoot up and to stop whining? What the hell is wrong with you. Just because Suboxone IS a narcotic (semi-synthetic partial opioid agonist) and DOES have withdrawal, does not mean it's bad, which you are trying to express it's good because it supposedly isn't and doesn't do these things.

Well, now that you know buddy, is Suboxone, the NARCOTIC and possible WITHDRAWAL properties still a miracle drug?

BECAUSE IT IS FOR ME. ABSOLUTELY!

P.S. And people, you're not whiners, opiate addiction SUCKS! And don't go shoot up because of this a**-hole. These kind of people bring down everyone's day LOL.

Eight years as a heroin addict,sticking needles in any vein I could find.then one day I got that moment of clarity that alcoholics talk about and decided to go on a home detox through an NHS group called BCAT. After about a 3 month wait I went for my tolerance test over 3 days whereupon I was prescribed 16 mg of subutex once a day. Slowly over the last two and a half years I have gradually reduced in 2 mg doses, using prescribed lofexadine for a few days for slight withdrawls until I adjusted to the lower dose. Eventually I got down to 0.4 mg about 3 weeks ago (which by the way the docs in scotland state that any dose 2mg or under causes very little or no withdrawl - thats bull). After being convinced by the docs that there would be no withdrawls coming of the low 0.4 subbie, I just went for it saying good bye to my last dose on sunday 1 may. Feeling quite confident that after all these years I was finally never and will never let another opiod enter my system ever again.As for no withdrawls I can honestly say that monday was not that bad,but today has not been so good and would imagine the next couple of days wont be much better, But no where near what a full heroin rattle is like.My emotions are all over the place,but I just keep in mind that this it - finally.Luckily I have a loving wife who's there for me which is a huge bonus.The future looks bright for us. Good luck to anyone else coming of subbies or any other opiods.Stick in there.

I was wondering when someone was going to educate him. He really sounds ignorant to Suboxone for someone who knows so much about street drugs. He "may be" pain pill free, however that attitude is from a strait up addict....Go figure. Guess the Suboxone didn't fix everything.

Then always remember: "Never say never", just say, I know today I will not allow another opioate to enter my system. Don't set yourself up! I have seen people beat their disease, however have a bad accident and be faced with some serious challenges. All my prayers are with you, & yes, you are allowed to pat yourself on the back! Give yourself all the credit you can, you do deserve this one! Ever wonder why people just sit and wait for you to fall? Like vultures? They don't give you the respect you deserve in that area. Dang, my kids, daughter 15 & son's 24 & 30yrs old will ask me...."How long now Mama", and I tell them...they tell me how proud they are...but they do say it comes with some noticeable changes...like I act like Im having PMS etc...& we laugh...I know it is a long hanging rope held bridge to cross...and HARD? OMG! However Subutex took all the yuck out of the w/ds, and made me feel normal again. I messed all that up too and am now facing a even bigger challenge. Just gotta keep brushing the dirt off our butts and get up and keep on keeping on.....God luck & Blessing to all

ladyblueii wrote:

ercildounstevie wrote:

Eight years as a heroin addict,sticking needles in any vein I could find.then one day I got that moment of clarity that alcoholics talk about and decided to go on a home detox through an NHS group called BCAT. After about a 3 month wait I went for my tolerance test over 3 days whereupon I was prescribed 16 mg of subutex once a day. Slowly over the last two and a half years I have gradually reduced in 2 mg doses, using prescribed lofexadine for a few days for slight withdrawls until I adjusted to the lower dose. Eventually I got down to 0.4 mg about 3 weeks ago (which by the way the docs in scotland state that any dose 2mg or under causes very little or no withdrawl - thats bull). After being convinced by the docs that there would be no withdrawls coming of the low 0.4 subbie, I just went for it saying good bye to my last dose on sunday 1 may. Feeling quite confident that after all these years I was finally never and will never let another opiod enter my system ever again.As for no withdrawls I can honestly say that monday was not that bad,but today has not been so good and would imagine the next couple of days wont be much better, But no where near what a full heroin rattle is like.My emotions are all over the place,but I just keep in mind that this it - finally.Luckily I have a loving wife who's there for me which is a huge bonus.The future looks bright for us. Good luck to anyone else coming of subbies or any other opiods.Stick in there.

Then always remember: "Never say never", just say, I know today I will not allow another opioate to enter my system. Don't set yourself up! I have seen people beat their disease, however have a bad accident and be faced with some serious challenges. All my prayers are with you, & yes, you are allowed to pat yourself on the back! Give yourself all the credit you can, you do deserve this one! Ever wonder why people just sit and wait for you to fall? Like vultures? They don't give you the respect you deserve in that area. Dang, my kids, daughter 15 & son's 24 & 30yrs old will ask me...."How long now Mama", and I tell them...they tell me how proud they are...but they do say it comes with some noticeable changes...like I act like Im having PMS etc...& we laugh...I know it is a long hanging rope held bridge to cross...and HARD? OMG! However Subutex took all the yuck out of the w/ds, and made me feel normal again. I messed all that up too and am now facing a even bigger challenge. Just gotta keep brushing the dirt off our butts and get up and keep on keeping on.....God luck & Blessing to all

Thanks for the kind words.It's nice to know that there is people out there who do understand and dont pass judgement. It's been nearly 4 months since stopping the subutex and about three years since I last injected heroin.I can honestly say it's about a month since i last had a craving,but the most important thing for me was getting rid of all the people in my life who said that they were my friends but really were just users or drug buddies.That made coming of drugs much easier.I have an 8 year old who needs a father not a heroin addict and everything that comes with that addiction.That also stops me using now.This time feels different and i feel very confident i will never use again. As you said just got keep brushing the dirt off and get back up.It's good that you have a supporting and loving family who are there for you.With your kids support your big challenge may not be as big.Everything in life is an experience,it's how you turn those things into something positive.Thanks again for the words and good luck for the future.

so stop?whats the better pill ?

If you didn't have withdrawals from Suboxone then you were extremely lucky. Buprenorphine, the main medication in Suboxone, is an opiate. You do get addicted to it. Not only am I just now finishing my withdrawals from Suboxone, but I am a certified medical assistant and deal with people going through withdrawals at work. Everyone's body reacts differently to different medication and how you go about tapering off the medication. You talk about methadone being an opiate based medication while Suboxone is ALSO an opiate based medication... Please don't give advice while assuming that all medications act the same in everyone because they definitely DO NOT!!

I work on a boat. Gone 40 days at a time. My first hitch I was on 8mg sub a day, weened to 2 over 30 days days. Not much of a problem besides acasional night terrors. I had no idea about suboxone withdrawal so when I ran out at 2 mg a day. Thought I was going to be ok. That was very stupid. Worst withdrawal experience of my life. Wanted to quit my job and run to the oxys. Or kill myself. It was bad. Didint sleep at all the last 5 days. Said I had a flu. So I got home, got oxys them went back to doc. Now I've been working here a year, I'm stuck at work again and I've weened down to like .2 in the 4th day of withdrawal. Hardly sleeping. I'm cold as f**k. But it was a thousand times worse at 2mg drop. It sucks but excersize size helps. I only know as I'm a deckhand on a boat and I really don't want to lose my job. Hot showers are your best freind. Vitamins music or w/e makes you happy.... And suboxone does get you high. Not the same as oxys but for me I loved it. It got me really hyped. But I hate how hard the sh*t is to get off.

Ha ha get your facts right sub is a opiate agonist and a opiate antagonist. And the agonist is buprenorphine and the antagonist is naloxone. The buprenorphine in suboxone is 50 times stronger than morphine and is extremely addictive. That's what eases your withdrawal symptoms from opiate withdrawal hints why u feel better. The naloxone blocks ur opiate receptors so if u use a opiate it doesn't have as strong an effect and urges the user to not use because it's not going to have the desired effect that you want. So thankgodforsuboxone u are completely and uttlerly incorrect suboxone is extremely addictive and should only be used for a short term period to get off of opiates. And do a quick taper, otherwise yes u do get addicted to the suboxone and it is just a bandaid for what u were addicted to before now your just addicted to suboxone.. So that doesn't sound like a successful or right way of going about sobriety!

Sorry but u r so wrong. If you are taking suboxen for too long u have horrible withdraw that is worse than regular opiate withdraw and last 2-5 weeks. If you Google it its all over the internet. I'm sorry to be rude but do your research b4 u write things. It is embarrassing for u and the public needs to know the truth. If u have a good doc like it sounds like u did that keeps u on a small amount for a small amount of time it does work good but too many docs and rehab are putting people on it for long periods of times and they all say they usually go back to drugs because the withdraw is worse than normal opiate withdraw. In conclusion congratulations and the way to use it is short term and it should work well.

I agree with you 100% and people who do not want to are on other drugs.

just to let you know your crazy, there deffinately is withdraw from suboxone. suboxone is made up of two drugs naloxone and bup. the bup. is a slow acting opoid and you can become addicted.

I have been on suboxone for 2.5 years ( after 10 years of opioid abuse) and i can tell you it ABSOLUTELY is a narcotic, that is why it is now called "replacement therapy" and if you stop it abruptly with out the taper(even with a taper) you DO go thru a withdrawal that last longer than opioid withdrawal from regular pain meds. I stupidly stopped the suboxone abruptly and went cold turkey and the withdrawal was HORRIBLE! i had to go on short term disability for 2 months from work, i made it thur the physical part but still my brain hasn't started to produce enough endorphins to give me the proper amount of energy, i am still completely fatigued. What you posted is completely inaccurate, have you even tried to quit suboxone for more than 5 days, if you have your opinion may be different

I agree that suboxone treatment should not be for a long treatment. I learned the hard way. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia for 15 years and was on Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, Fentanyl and other medications for contstant pain over those years. Went to rehab for 8 days. When I got home I was sick still. In bed for two and half weeks. Went on suboxone thinking this was the answer. I should of stayed on it for only two or three weeks but I ended staying on it for 3 and half years because my Doctor said keep taking it to manage your pain. It helped for the first two years but then the third year I got hightly tolerant to it. I started with 16mg a day to 24mg a day. I would get so sick before each of my doses throughout the day. The suboxone was taking over my life. It was just a trade off. So after three years I decided to taper off for 6 months. I went from 24 mg. to 1/2 mg. in six months. After I dropped off three days later I got sooooo sick. The anxiety was even worse than getting off the other pain pills. I stayed home with the help of my husband and son. I could not sleep, very restless, severe pain, etc. I did not want to live. If it was not for the Doctor that my husband took me to that treated me with short and long acting Benzodiazepine for 10 months I would not be alive today. Suboxone is just another drug that is very addictive!!!! Do not go on it. You will be better off. If I just of give it time after

I got home from the hospital and ride it out I would of been better off. Going on suboxone made the withdrawals a lot worse. I am glad that I can say it has been two years now off all narcotics.