suboxone withdrawal: how long is this going to last...I'm mi

AnyoneAnyone wanting off subs don't listen to the negative post. I'm like 53 days clean and am completely better.  You can do it

Listen to me - YOU WILL GET BETTER. The damage is not permanent. Yes - you will feel withdrawal for a while but you WILL recover. I personally know 2 people that tried suicide will in detox and they are both now clean for over a year. They thought the same thing - that life was over and that it couldn't possibly get better. That is simply not true. If you'd like, I can give you the number of someone who has been down the same path. DON'T GIVE UP. FIGHT, DAMMIT.

I was on benzos for 15 years, opiates for 4 and subs for 4 years. They told me in rehab that the 15 years of benzos could have years of lasting effects. I'm can honestly say that I'm nearing my 1 year anniversary and I feel almost completely healed. I will never be completely healed which is why I still go to NA meetings, see a therapist and pray to a God of my understanding. You can't back down from this disease. Please continue to post and let us know how you are doing. We are all hear to help you. Please read the poem below. It was my father-in-laws favorite poem. He did a few weeks ago:

"When things go wrong, as they sometimes will,
When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
When the funds are low and the debts are high,
And you want to smile, but you have to sigh,
When care is pressing you down a bit-
Rest if you must, but don't you quit.

Life is gay with its twists and turns,
As every one of us sometimes learns,
And many a fellow turns about
When he might have won had he stuck it out.
Don't give up though the pace seems slow -
You may succeed with another blow.

Often the goal is nearer than
It seems to a faint and faltering man;
Often the struggler has given up
Whe he might have captured the victor's cup;
And he learned too late when the night came down,
How close he was to the golden crown.

Success is failure turned inside out -
The silver tint in the clouds of doubt,
And you never can tell how close you are,
It might be near when it seems afar;
So stick to the fight when you're hardest hit -
It's when things seem worst that you must not quit. "

I personally 1 person who killed themselves because coming off suboxone was hard for them. Nobody has ever stayed clean for more then 1 year after stopping suboxone. Your right it damages your brain forever and theres nothing that can be done. You cant also stay on suboxone because it makes you just as bad.. All you can do now is help newbies to get off sub ASAP if they been using it for 2 days, and warn others not to touch suboxone..

LMAO your so indenial and what a fantasy speech you made there.. Am sorry but suboxone will destroy you. Mark our words.

Does anyone else think this is a suboxone CEO or something...trying to make everyone stay on subs? This guest has been on here numerous times..none of the symptoms he/she describes are consistent with sub withdrawal. I dont think this person has ever gone through it...its a scare tactic. And a bad one at that...remember we have no idea who this is. It could be anyone...like a doctor that prescribes suboxone. Don't listen to this garbage, nobody else is.

Right. I should just plan on crashing and burning because the best way to recover is to give up and assume that my best years are behind me, right? Nice. Good luck in your recovery. I'll pray for you in the meetings as I pick up my one year key tag.

I keep forgetting that I should complain and be generally miserable in my posts. Apologies for the optimism.

Good luck

Not the CEO - just someone who has given up.

It looks to me he or she is telling people to get off subs and not stay on then, they are also telling the truth. I am 8 months clean from subs and I have not left my house in 3 months , yes that is correct 3 months, am depressed and it seems to be gettting worst, not only that but I have some pshycal symptoms too, bone ache is a killer and no sleep. I know for a fact its related to subs. This is the devil in disguise.

Depression is tough. I've dealt with it all my life - a lot of us have. If I didn't have a job and 2 kids to feed, I'd lay in bed and watch sports highlights and Jason Statham movies. I feel your pain. I'm 10 months off and I still have days where it takes everything inside of me to roll out of bed.

It's a mental game at this stage. As hard as it seems, you need to make small goals for yourself each day. Focus on taking a shower, then taking a walk, doing laundry, etc. If you can, exercise a little. That helped me out a lot. And why not call and talk to someone or go to an NA meeting. It beats isolation.

Good luck

I find that the only way to stop is by using 2 people,you and god. I have been a heroin addict for a solid 40 years and have been trying to quit for 30 years. I promise you I have tried it all. Even after 2 years in the penn I got out and that same night I used my state money to get high. There is no real help out there for us except us and the one who made us. I have tried it all over and over and over and over. Take it from a highly trained on the job junky that my way is the only way. Think about it,why would I lye. As far as withdrawl, I know from too much experience that 3 mos. is a good almost over withdrawl time. Try to think of it this way, If Jesus could stand being nailed to a cross for several hours, we can take a little withdrawl time. I sincierally promise that what I am telling you will work.Please at least try it my way for a year and you will be fine. Good luck and think untill hell freezes over and you icescate with the devil that you wont give up,only then will you win this battle your fighting. LP.

OK here is the skinny on me and "My Suboxone" experience. I was on this c**p for 4 years (Methadone for 3 more and opiates for 15 years in total) and would taper down and then screw up (read between the lines) fall off and go back to the beginning. I was prescribed 3x8mgs=24mgs, but his is way too much for a Carfentanil addicted elephant, let alone a 3 bundle a day junkie. With Suboxone less is more as I suffered from serious anxiety sweats at the worst times (job interviews) as well as a host of other side effects. You have to taper down and stay consistent. Try to just take it once a day. I switched over to the Listerine like strips and I asked the MD for just two instead of three. You can cut the strips into smaller and smaller sections. As you detox you get the yawns and midday sleep hits you like a freight train. I finally got down to one strip lasting me over twenty days which is the smallest I could cut it and then I would half that lengthwise. That is basically less than 0.4mgs or 1/5 of the lowest 2mg dose. IMO going off cold turkey from anything less than that is "cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs". I had bad diarrhea (take 3-4 Pepto pills) for a week, I was yawning like crazy and I kept needing naps for weeks. Months later I would still wake up at 1am and stare at the ceiling for hours. I wanted this bad and I knew that it would take time for that c**p to work its way out of my system. Buprenorphine and Naxalone are powerful drugs and your body needs to work it all out of your system. You entire chemistry if off. Withdrawing off of the amount I did was key. It was slightly uncomfortable for a few weeks, but not really that bad. Now comes the hard part of not rationalizing bad behavior. IT IS TIME PEOPLE!

 

I feel so good now that I don't need that c**p anymore and I hope that I keep that spirit alive, not forgetting the misery I used to endure. I was sick and tired of the rollercoaster ride and I realized I needed to grow up. Being a forty year-old junkie is not a pretty picture and no matter what you think these opioids are lowering the quality of your life. Cross those fingers and jump from the lowest dose possible.

 

Buene Suerte!

Hey Jo Jo and LL, well I'm back. I haven't been on here in about 1-2 months but here's my story. I stopped taking subs on March 20th and it was undoubtedly the hardest thing I ever did after being addicted to opiates for 6 years. 3 yrs on pills and 3 yrs on Subs. I haven't taken a sub since March 20th and am proud of that part. I did have some issues though. I was having severe pain in my back and legs after the sweats went away. I couldn't walk without being in severe pain. I knew there was something wrong and not the WD symptoms anymore. Turns out I had some tests done and I had some lower back problems (not gonna get into the details) but it was due to real injuries in my back. I had some epidurals to assist with the pain but that only worked for a little bit. The pain was unbearable and I had to go back to work. I was prescribed Tramadol so it's been helping. I won't touch a Percocet or Vicodin, but I am taking Tramadol. I am taking 1-2 a day for pain as needed, but that's it! I wish I didn't have to take anything at all, as I was dead-set on never taking an opiate again. However I do have legitimate injuries.(not trying to rationalize - this is just my story and not a recommendation for anyone here!!) I am trying to treat now with PT so I can get well and not taking these Tramadol at all. I am totally off Subs and will never take again. I was masking my injuries w the subs and not even knowing it. I must say music therapy was really helpful during the first couple of weeks of stopping. I got that advice here. Anyone who is talking about suicide and all that, this should be a forum for hope and help, not discouragement. I know this is not a total success story but I am proud that I am off the subs. Stay strong and you can do it. I know 3 people that were on for years and did the taper method and blood pressure meds and lots of vitamins and are now sub-free. The advice you get on this forum could be very helpful - couldn't have gotten thru that time without the people here. The B-12 with L-Tyrosine helped me a lot w the lack of energy factor - got that advice here too :-) Good luck !! - Dina

Good job Dina.  I was wondering how u were. I'm off the subs too. My last day was April 9th. No depression and back to being me. I'm so thankful to be off that garbage.  

Jeremy

PS. I wonder how that Jess girl is doing?

So glad you are doing so well. I wonder how she is doing too. We never heard back after she was about to do the jump. I hope she's ok!
This might be the hardest thing I ever did but so glad to be off too. I wish people trying to get off all the strength to do it. It's not easy to say the least.

I AM NOT FKED ON IT. IT SAVED MY LIFE AND I HAVE BEEN TAKING IT FOR 9 YEARS FAITHFULLY. I HAVE NOT USED HEROIN OR ANY OPIATE OR ANY DRUG FOR THAT MATTER SINCE.

SUBOXONE KILLED MY WITHDRAWALS FROM HEROIN AND KILLED MY CRAVINGS TO USE HEROIN.

I AM SORRY FOR YOU THAT AFTER ALL THOSE MONTHS OFF OF IT YOU GOT DEPRESSED.

IT WAS AND IS THE PERFECT DRUG FOR ME.

YOU SAID IT WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE MARKET. I DOUBT IT BECAUSE AS LONG AS IT IS MAKING MONEY, IT WILL NOT BE TAKEN OFF THE MARKET. IN MY USING DAYS OF HEROIN, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWALS, I WOULD HAVE FKED A DUCK FOR JUST ONE SINGLE SUBOXONE TABLET!