I was on suboxone from feb. until aug. when I decided I wanted off. It was hell, I had a wedding to go to the first day off the subs, I had to leave because i had a crying panic attack. I eventually went back and got on subs again the $200 is now killing my income, and like I've read before, it seems the Dr. only wants my money. I would go for a visit and be out with a script in 10 min. By my own mistake, I would take more then prescribed and would run out early. I would have to borrow some from a friend and pay them back what I borrowed so again it would run out early. I finally told my doc I needed a higher dosage. He upped it, but since I owed my friend from before today I took my last pill.
I AM SICK OF THIS DRUG RUNNING MY LIFE. Almost as much as my oxy addiction.
I took my last pill today (2 MG thursday the 18th of Oct.) and hope I will make it through work tomorrow (I know I will be dying in wd pain) I have my families support to veg out all weekend, and with the help of sleep aids and xanax help me through the worst of the detox WD. I'm hoping I will feel a little better by Monday. I have used all my sick days, and can't afford not to go to work.
Does anyone have any useful tips for me. I am scared to death of the start of tomorrows WD's. Luckily my family and GF know the truth and are here to support me.
What I am afraid of most is the horrible depression feelings, and the "not being able to do anything" feeling.
any help would be appreciated, I also wish you all luck.
I AM SICK OF THIS DRUG RUNNING MY LIFE. Almost as much as my oxy addiction.
I took my last pill today (2 MG thursday the 18th of Oct.) and hope I will make it through work tomorrow (I know I will be dying in wd pain) I have my families support to veg out all weekend, and with the help of sleep aids and xanax help me through the worst of the detox WD. I'm hoping I will feel a little better by Monday. I have used all my sick days, and can't afford not to go to work.
Does anyone have any useful tips for me. I am scared to death of the start of tomorrows WD's. Luckily my family and GF know the truth and are here to support me.
What I am afraid of most is the horrible depression feelings, and the "not being able to do anything" feeling.
any help would be appreciated, I also wish you all luck.
sorry for the double post, but damn is this guy right. Before I started sub I went cold turkey on oxys and after about a a week started feeling alot better. Then I did the mistake of "well I think I can reward myself" and took an oxy 40. Boy was that a mistake, my habit started right up again.
For all concerned:
To start I'm am by no means a doctor or heatlth practitioner of any kind, but offer my knowledge and input regarding suboxone through my own personal research and experience. Suboxone or buprenorphine hydrochloride (The active chemical in suboxone) is used in assisted opiate detox or maintenance as everyone posting and reading is well aware. It is a synthetically derived opiate, with normally mild to moderate partial agonist effects on the human body and brain chemistry compared to stronger or more potent (full agonist) opiates (eg; heroin, oxycodone). Normally people already physically dependant/addicted to another opiate will experience little to no euphoric effects from Suboxone (depending on the type of other opiate, amount, and length of time taken), although a person who has never tried or been dedpendant on another opiate can and most likely will experience euphoric effects from taking suboxone to varied degree. Suboxone is no different than any other opiate in the fact that it will make the body physically dependent upon it, depending on the amount, and length of time used despite it's partial agonist properties. You will upon detoxing from suboxone go through withdrawals like any other opiate, the difference being, in controlled scientific studies, it has been shown that the physical withdrawals are less extreme than detoxing from full agonist opiates. To clarify further , this does not mean that a person will not have an extreme physical withdrawl syndrome upon detoxing from suboxone. This is because every person is different in the fact that their body/brain chemistry differs a tiny bit. Some people will have next to no withdrawal from very large amounts of any opiates (in rare cases), and some will have extreme withdrawals from very small amounts. On the norm, upon detoxing from suboxone, you will experience mild to moderate withdrawal syndrome lasting 5 to 15 days with the strongest withdrawals peaking in the middle of your individual situation. The thing to remember is with Suboxone, because of the small difference in chemical structure from other opiates and how the body reacts to the drug, you have a larger chance of continued emotional distress (eg; depression, anxiety, panic attacks) after the physical withdrawals subside. This is extremely variable and depends on every person's individual reaction to detoxing, but can last a day or 2 after the physical withdrawals subside, up to a year after. You need to remember that by introducing a foriegn chemical in to your body, your body was forced to adapt to it, and by then taking it away your body has to adapt again. This is what causes tolerance and withdrawals (obviously). Now with that being said, i can say that there is no miracle drug known to man at this point of time that that will completely eliminate any and all withdrawal symptoms as a result of opiate dependency. Hopefully some day a breakthrough in science will result in such a drug. There are some drugs that do help lesson some of the physical symptoms of withdrawal (eg; clonidine, benadryl, and others), but should only be taken as prescribed by a licensed doctor as they have their own side effects and interactions. There are also many drugs that can be prescribed by a licensed doctor for the lasting emotional effects of suboxone or other opiate detox. For the people willing to detox naturally, the best thing while detoxing, as hard as it might be, eat a healthy diet, exercise as much as possible, and tell yourself over and over again that you can and will get through this. This will give your body the building blocks it needs to repair the damage you have forced it to adapt to, and many times for many people this will cut down the time the physical and mental withdrawal symptoms last. Talk to people you trust that care. Listen to uplifting music. Pass the time as constructively as you can. It may seem it's not worth it at times and probably will, but keep telling yourself you just have to get through one more day. One day you'll fall asleep, wake up and notice wow..... I feel better, maybe... I can get through this. Tell yourself you are in control and prove it to yourself!! Suboxone, when used as directed by a licensed (and knowledgable) doctor can and does cut down the withdrawal symptoms of opiate detox for a lot of people, but not ALL people. In my opinion, if a doctor prescribes suboxone to you without asking you what you want from it or talking to you about an eventual tapering schedule before prescribing it to you, they may be licensed to prescribe it, but do not have enough experience with it to help your individual situation. You should search for a new doctor with more experience with the drug. Some people will be more comfortable being on suboxone for the rest of their life. If this is the only way YOU feel you can live a normal, healthy, and fullfilling life than there is NOTHING wrong with that!!! For everyone else YOU are in control, and can make it through it!! I am again not a licensed health practitioner, so please don't take this information as from such. I am although a 15 year IV heroin addict who has now been drug free for 12 days and counting and I WILL make it!! Not to mention I have many times over been through hell and back, and tried everything you can imagine to kick the habit. Suboxone worked for me, but may not work for you. I will answer any questions anyone may have to the best of my knowledge if asked. You can do it!!
To start I'm am by no means a doctor or heatlth practitioner of any kind, but offer my knowledge and input regarding suboxone through my own personal research and experience. Suboxone or buprenorphine hydrochloride (The active chemical in suboxone) is used in assisted opiate detox or maintenance as everyone posting and reading is well aware. It is a synthetically derived opiate, with normally mild to moderate partial agonist effects on the human body and brain chemistry compared to stronger or more potent (full agonist) opiates (eg; heroin, oxycodone). Normally people already physically dependant/addicted to another opiate will experience little to no euphoric effects from Suboxone (depending on the type of other opiate, amount, and length of time taken), although a person who has never tried or been dedpendant on another opiate can and most likely will experience euphoric effects from taking suboxone to varied degree. Suboxone is no different than any other opiate in the fact that it will make the body physically dependent upon it, depending on the amount, and length of time used despite it's partial agonist properties. You will upon detoxing from suboxone go through withdrawals like any other opiate, the difference being, in controlled scientific studies, it has been shown that the physical withdrawals are less extreme than detoxing from full agonist opiates. To clarify further , this does not mean that a person will not have an extreme physical withdrawl syndrome upon detoxing from suboxone. This is because every person is different in the fact that their body/brain chemistry differs a tiny bit. Some people will have next to no withdrawal from very large amounts of any opiates (in rare cases), and some will have extreme withdrawals from very small amounts. On the norm, upon detoxing from suboxone, you will experience mild to moderate withdrawal syndrome lasting 5 to 15 days with the strongest withdrawals peaking in the middle of your individual situation. The thing to remember is with Suboxone, because of the small difference in chemical structure from other opiates and how the body reacts to the drug, you have a larger chance of continued emotional distress (eg; depression, anxiety, panic attacks) after the physical withdrawals subside. This is extremely variable and depends on every person's individual reaction to detoxing, but can last a day or 2 after the physical withdrawals subside, up to a year after. You need to remember that by introducing a foriegn chemical in to your body, your body was forced to adapt to it, and by then taking it away your body has to adapt again. This is what causes tolerance and withdrawals (obviously). Now with that being said, i can say that there is no miracle drug known to man at this point of time that that will completely eliminate any and all withdrawal symptoms as a result of opiate dependency. Hopefully some day a breakthrough in science will result in such a drug. There are some drugs that do help lesson some of the physical symptoms of withdrawal (eg; clonidine, benadryl, and others), but should only be taken as prescribed by a licensed doctor as they have their own side effects and interactions. There are also many drugs that can be prescribed by a licensed doctor for the lasting emotional effects of suboxone or other opiate detox. For the people willing to detox naturally, the best thing while detoxing, as hard as it might be, eat a healthy diet, exercise as much as possible, and tell yourself over and over again that you can and will get through this. This will give your body the building blocks it needs to repair the damage you have forced it to adapt to, and many times for many people this will cut down the time the physical and mental withdrawal symptoms last. Talk to people you trust that care. Listen to uplifting music. Pass the time as constructively as you can. It may seem it's not worth it at times and probably will, but keep telling yourself you just have to get through one more day. One day you'll fall asleep, wake up and notice wow..... I feel better, maybe... I can get through this. Tell yourself you are in control and prove it to yourself!! Suboxone, when used as directed by a licensed (and knowledgable) doctor can and does cut down the withdrawal symptoms of opiate detox for a lot of people, but not ALL people. In my opinion, if a doctor prescribes suboxone to you without asking you what you want from it or talking to you about an eventual tapering schedule before prescribing it to you, they may be licensed to prescribe it, but do not have enough experience with it to help your individual situation. You should search for a new doctor with more experience with the drug. Some people will be more comfortable being on suboxone for the rest of their life. If this is the only way YOU feel you can live a normal, healthy, and fullfilling life than there is NOTHING wrong with that!!! For everyone else YOU are in control, and can make it through it!! I am again not a licensed health practitioner, so please don't take this information as from such. I am although a 15 year IV heroin addict who has now been drug free for 12 days and counting and I WILL make it!! Not to mention I have many times over been through hell and back, and tried everything you can imagine to kick the habit. Suboxone worked for me, but may not work for you. I will answer any questions anyone may have to the best of my knowledge if asked. You can do it!!
Just information for anyone who is as afraid as I was to quit suboxone. Take what you can use from my experience and please leave the rest. I am not a doctor; however, I have found over the last 3 years of incessant chronic spinal pain from serious motor vehicle accident that many, many doctors (especially in the ER) have no clue about pain medicine but they can put you on it. Once they get you on it they don't understand the withdrawal, they certainly don't understand tolerance and the necessity to increase from time to time, and they really don't know how to effectively get you off it. I started Suboxone (got it from a "pain specialist" who told me there will be no difficulty in getting off it. This was over 2 years ago - I took only 4 mgs. per day as opposed to the prescribed 12 mgs. My son was also prescribed it to get off Methadone. "It's much easier to get off suboxone than it is to get of Methadone", our doctor says. After 2 years, we are sick and tired of the $400 per month it took to stay on the meds. My son didn't have insurance so the same doctor who took him as a patient knowing he didn't have insurance and no way of paying his bill at the time gave sub. to him anyway. Once the bill got to $600 the secretaries there got the order (straight from the doctor that told him not to worry about not having insurance) and handed him his first script for sub that my son was to be given no more medication (simply cut off cold) until he paid his bill in full. I do not understand how doctors can get away with putting someone on so much addictive medication (he was on 16 mgs.) and then cut him off abruptly. To me, it's no different than dope dealers on the street. They entice you in by advertising how easy it is to feel better and then cut you off completely until you pay your bill. My son tried to make payment arrangements; begged and pleaded for just enough to wean off and he was hung up on! He is now on his 2nd full day of detox and I dread this day for him. As for me, I still need to do something about the pain of 8 herniated discs, but I can tell you for sure it will NOT include opiods in any way. I began tapering off 4 mgs. per day on 9/6/07. Every week or so I decreased myself by 1 mg., sometimes 1/2 mg. I have lots of neurological damage from the spinal injury so I assume it played a big role in the difficulty I had tapering. For 6 weeks I decreased by small amounts until I was down to breaking the pills so small that there were only about 1/8 - 1/4 mg. 1 time per day. Because of the tapering, the withdrawal for me lasted the entire time. I wasn't throwing up or violently ill like when I went cold turkey off 125mcg of Fentanyl, but all I could do was lay and sleep - sort of like I had a bad flu for 6 weeks. This past Thursday night at 7 pm was my last little crumb - and I mean little (I broke an 8 mg into 16-20 pieces and yes, there was lots of powder from that, but it was worth it). I used Clonidine - a magical medication that helps slow your heart and helps you sleep. I also used immodium AD for the abdom. cramps, lots of Advil and Neurontin - 600 mgs./day and Phenergan (anti-nausea). I was told that after 48 to 72 hours Suboxone will not appear in your blood and that is true. (Once I went to ER for something non related and I told them I hadn't taken it in 48 hours - they did drug screen and it did not show up at all.) I digress. As I said, I stopped completely this past Thursday at 7 pm. Yesterday evening was my worst - creepy crawlies in arms and legs so bad that I couldn't hold still! It is now Sunday morning and I awoke at 4 and sat up THANKING GOD. I didn't remember this feeling of being clean but I knew I liked it and I knew I had made it. It has been 59 hours as of now and I have no symptoms whatsoever. I immediately gave thanks and prayed for my son who will do cold turkey from much more than I was taking. I watched him go through 3 weeks of cold turkey Methadone withdrawal (50 mgs./day) a couple of years ago and it was horrific. Suboxone is hard to get off of, but Methadone is MUCH worse in our experience. What I will say is that if anyone decides to stop taking suboxone remember that the withdrawal, although difficult is way easier than Norco, Fentanyl, Lorcet, ect. and it's also way, way shorter...at least it was for me. Clonodine was a life saver. The more you can sleep through it, the better. But clonodine is a blood pressure medication and only use under doctor's advice. It can lower your BP so much it could stop your heart. The last thing I wanted to say to anyone starting this process....your withdrawal symptoms from Subox. are many but for me, they only hit me one at a time. Each day I would get sweats and chills for about an hour and that would stop, then the abdominal cramps kicked in for a bit, then that would stop, then the creepy crawlies for a bit or nausea, then that would subside and back to the sweats. Please hang in there if you are suffering and know that there are lots of others who are going through this same thing and encouraging self-talk is vital. "I'm getting that flippin monkey off my back once and for all!" God Bless.
I have been taking 16 mg of suboxone for 4 months. I decressed my dosage over time until my last pill Friday. Starting areounr Tuesday I have been surrerfing frowhat appear to be panic attacks.. I can;t stay still, I can't sleep, I feel like my heart is going to just out of my chest and I want to just out of my skin. The doctor gave me Ativan which does not seem to be working too well. Is this normal and how long is this going to last. I feel like I am going to go crazy.
Help please.
Todd
Help please.
Todd
Todd:
I first posted here 2 weeks ago. I has now been 2 weeks since I quit sub and I feel great!
It was not at all easy. I missed four days of work. The days all blended together since I never slept, the hours between 12am-7pm were horrible, tossing and turning. I never saw the sunrise so much. I took my last 2 mg on a thursday, by monday I was a wreck...crying and asking my family for help. Worst time of my life. Shaky legs, diarhea, creepy skin, depressing thoughts, my chest felt like all my innards were rippped out and it was filled with fire. PLUS all the "flu" like syptoms of not being to get up. I also lost 10 lbs. cause i could not eat ANYTHING.
Tuesday I went to my dr. (who only cares about money) and he gave me 15 lunesta (for sleep) and clonidine (lowers blood pressure and helps with the shakes). I hate clonidine. It makes you feel like a zombie, you can't move. On top of that your body feels numb and you get bad dry mouth and a weird taste. The Lunesta only worked 2 hours each. they also give you a nasty taste.
My suggestions that helped me. I'm no dr. but this is WHAT I NEEDED.
Xanax or generic for the anxiety. The doc wont give this to you because they are addictive. I never had a problem with xanax in the past, was just a painkiller taker... and they were a life saver for my anxiety and burning chest, as well as the shakes.
Ambien for sleep. Ambien CR works great. This you prob wont be able to get from your doc. They'll give you BS like syraquil or Rozerem, both do not work for me.
You may have to ask someone to help you out by giving you some. Or go to your fam. dr. and tell him you have anxiety and can't sleep.
Pain addcition docs wont give you this stuff. They are robbers and want you to stay on subs as long as possible. Subs are just a cover up so you wont have to face withdrawal. But know this, for me the sub WDs were worse then any oxy withdrawal, since teh subs act longer in the body.
Like I said, just my advice. If you are planning on withdrawing, plan to miss work for at least a week. (i told them i had horrible flu)
WD lasted two weeks for me. I still have some symptoms, but am at 80%. whats even better...no cravings!
I hope my info helps, i know what you all are going through and wish you the best.
I first posted here 2 weeks ago. I has now been 2 weeks since I quit sub and I feel great!
It was not at all easy. I missed four days of work. The days all blended together since I never slept, the hours between 12am-7pm were horrible, tossing and turning. I never saw the sunrise so much. I took my last 2 mg on a thursday, by monday I was a wreck...crying and asking my family for help. Worst time of my life. Shaky legs, diarhea, creepy skin, depressing thoughts, my chest felt like all my innards were rippped out and it was filled with fire. PLUS all the "flu" like syptoms of not being to get up. I also lost 10 lbs. cause i could not eat ANYTHING.
Tuesday I went to my dr. (who only cares about money) and he gave me 15 lunesta (for sleep) and clonidine (lowers blood pressure and helps with the shakes). I hate clonidine. It makes you feel like a zombie, you can't move. On top of that your body feels numb and you get bad dry mouth and a weird taste. The Lunesta only worked 2 hours each. they also give you a nasty taste.
My suggestions that helped me. I'm no dr. but this is WHAT I NEEDED.
Xanax or generic for the anxiety. The doc wont give this to you because they are addictive. I never had a problem with xanax in the past, was just a painkiller taker... and they were a life saver for my anxiety and burning chest, as well as the shakes.
Ambien for sleep. Ambien CR works great. This you prob wont be able to get from your doc. They'll give you BS like syraquil or Rozerem, both do not work for me.
You may have to ask someone to help you out by giving you some. Or go to your fam. dr. and tell him you have anxiety and can't sleep.
Pain addcition docs wont give you this stuff. They are robbers and want you to stay on subs as long as possible. Subs are just a cover up so you wont have to face withdrawal. But know this, for me the sub WDs were worse then any oxy withdrawal, since teh subs act longer in the body.
Like I said, just my advice. If you are planning on withdrawing, plan to miss work for at least a week. (i told them i had horrible flu)
WD lasted two weeks for me. I still have some symptoms, but am at 80%. whats even better...no cravings!
I hope my info helps, i know what you all are going through and wish you the best.
Check out the fda.gov site if you want to know how drugs work and how to use them, what to expect.
i was on heroin for 12 years, methadone for 5 and i thought there was no way out, i started to lower my meth dose till i reached 30 mgs, i did this slowly, it took years. at 30 mgs i started suboxone and after a month i felt fine, it was miraculous. unfortunately i didn't deal w/ the psychological side of the addiction and i started doing dope again, but only for about a month. i started suboxone again and feel better, i think the key to minimizing the withdrawals from suboxone is to lower the dosage slowly till you feel comfortable physically. good luck and don't give up.
I have been a herion addict for 8 years now and about a year ago I got on 16 mg of suboxone, at first it was great I felt much better. But now I'm trying to get off of it and it is absolutly horrible. I tappered down and it is still hard. I'm on day number 1 this go round. I feel like sh*t. I have a headache, I'm nauseas, my body hurts and I feel depressed and anxious. I just don't feel like myself. I just feel weird. Does anyone else relate? I feel like I'm losing my mind. I'm currently in college and I'm trying to deal with withdrawal and make it to classes. I don't even want to get out of bed, let alone go to classes. I hope this helps someone realise their not the only one going through this. I have been forgetting that myself the last couple days.
I hear ya bud. Just hang in there. Are you not sleeping? tossing and turning with leg shakes. no appetite and horrible thoughts. you need someone there with you. and you need ambien for sleep and xanax valium for axiety. for just a short while. it got me through it. Month later i still have symptoms but get better each day.
I JUST CAME OFF OF SUBOXONE, AND I HAD A VERY HARD TIMEAND I WAS ONLY ON IT A COUPLE MONTHS. MY DOCTOR WAS VERY HELPFUL BY GIVING ME CLONIDINE(FOR SHAKES) KLANAPIN(FOR NERVES AND ANXIETY) AND SEREQUEL FOR SLEEP. IT TOOK ME ABOUT TEN DAYS , BUT I QUIT FROM TAKING 16 MILL A DAY. I READ THE FORUM AND IT SCARED THE sh*t OUT OF ME. THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE DOCTOR AND I HAD A CLEAN DRUG SCREEN, FIRST IN A WHILE. GOOD LUCK
I have been on pain killers of all kinds over the past 10 years. It started out as vicodin & Percocet which in the last few years grew into Duragesic patches & handfuls of percocet a day. I have been through withdrawal more times than I can even remember. More than 20 if I had to guess. Every time I relapse the withdrawal becomes harder and harder to take. I was put on the suboxone about 2 years ago. After about a year of being on it very comfortabley I had a relapse on the patches. I thought to myself, "I'll only be on it short term and just hop right back on the suboxone." Well it didnt work that way at all. I had panic attacks that drove me to absolute suicidal thoughts. All I wanted was to get back on the suboxone and move on with my life. Finally after MONTHS and at least 10 attempts to switch from the patches back to suboxone I finally made it. Here I am about 5 months later and I feel horrible inside. Im going to attempt to get off the suboxone at home tapering as much as I can before the big fall. After reading the comments on here of how hard it has been for so many people to come off suboxone I am extremely worried. After the trauma I went through 5 months ago I dont think I can handle more panic. Part of me thinks that suboxone withdrawal cannot be as bad as what I went through with the patches. The other part of me knows that after all that that I will probably be very prone to having more panic attacks with suboxone withdrawal. I guess I wont know until it happens. If anyone has any advice or any input I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and wish me luck!
~Kittie
~Kittie
Kittie251 wrote:
I swear I could have typed your story myself. Except i was on sub for 8 months. It has now been 1 month and 5 days and it's still a struggle for me.
I take .25 mg xanax a day, sometimes .5 for my anxiety but it barely helps. I don't want to do overdue it lest i get hooked on xanax. I am still uncomfortable in my skin. Hoping this will pass.
I take ambien cr at night for sleep, the sleeplessness I hated the most so it is a big help. I'm also still very antisocial something I never was until i stopped abusing painkillers.
I hated the clonodine, made me feel horribly strange, zombie like. zapped me of all energy. did help with the shaking though. I'm hoping this clears up because ive read it takes at least a month 1/2 for most. the awful truth.
Sorry for the double post I did not think the first one loaded.
I swear I could have typed your story myself. Except i was on sub for 8 months. It has now been 1 month and 5 days and it's still a struggle for me.
I take .25 mg xanax a day, sometimes .5 for my anxiety but it barely helps. I don't want to do overdue it lest i get hooked on xanax. I am still uncomfortable in my skin. Hoping this will pass.
I take ambien cr at night for sleep, the sleeplessness I hated the most so it is a big help. I'm also still very antisocial something I never was until i stopped abusing painkillers.
I hated the clonodine, made me feel horribly strange, zombie like. zapped me of all energy. did help with the shaking though. I'm hoping this clears up because ive read it takes at least a month 1/2 for most. the awful truth.
hey guys i need help with something.. I had been addicted to opiates for about 4 years...In 2005 i went into rehab and I had been clean for about a year and a half.. but recently i had started taking suboxone a 2-3 times a week for about 2 and half months. On average, i would take 1 8mg pill on tuesday, wed, thursday, than stop until next week. However last night i started feeling withdrawals, and it scared the hell out of me. I do not want to go through this again, and want to know the best course of action. The last thing i used was 30 mg of hydrocodone on sunday november 25th. I'm wondering if i should get a few suboxones to taper down or if i should just stick it out? How long will i be feeling like this for ? If someone could help id really appreciate it, im in school and i have finals coming up and I can not screw up again. Please help thanks
From experience, you cannot just "taper down" from subs. I used for almost 3 years, when i wanted to quit i would buy a few 8s off the street, then break them up to spread out as long as I could. As soon as they were done the WDs kicked in. I don't know how bad your habit is, but if you can get off work for a week and suffer through the WD it would be much better then suboxone. Subs are an evil drug used to mask an opiate addiction. They were harder for me to get off then oxys. Go talk to your family dr. and tell them you need something to sleep and for anxiety (hopefully yours wil understand, mine didnt and I went to the nurse practioner instead) Imsomnia and anxiety were the worst for me, anxiety is still an issue and I quit subs on 10/18. I suggest ambien (go right to bed dont fight it) and .5mg xanax, just until you feel better. Just my opinion. STAY AWAY FROM SUBOXONE!