Same poster as above^
Right, I was doing some research and came across the drug Dextromethorphan (DM) that can be bought in the UK over the counter as a cough suppressant. It was used to replace based addictive codeine cough syrups.
In my research, it's said to lower your opiate receptor tolerance. So today I went and bought a small bottle of Robitussin dry cough which is 100ml and 7.5mg DM per 5ml so that's 150mg's per bottle. You can only buy one bottle at a time as at very high dosages it becomes an hallucinogenic.
I took 150mg DM over 2 hours and 2 hours later I started to enjoy the goose bumps that I was finding extremely annoying and now feel a bit more content with things and feel very hungry and my mum's cooking smells bloody amazing right now!!!!! Fantastic!
Anyway, if anyone wants to try this method, take the syrup in low doses over the course of a few hours because you will just throw it all up if you try and take it all in 1 gulp.
150mg's isn't even a threshold dose to make one trip unless they weigh under 150kg so I guess it could be for some but I'm at 180kg. Anyway the idea isn't to FEEL it or be tripping on it but just to make one a bit more content and comfortable. :-)
Mmmmm for the first time in 8 days I can't wait to eat and I don't even know whats been cooked!
Right, I was doing some research and came across the drug Dextromethorphan (DM) that can be bought in the UK over the counter as a cough suppressant. It was used to replace based addictive codeine cough syrups.
In my research, it's said to lower your opiate receptor tolerance. So today I went and bought a small bottle of Robitussin dry cough which is 100ml and 7.5mg DM per 5ml so that's 150mg's per bottle. You can only buy one bottle at a time as at very high dosages it becomes an hallucinogenic.
I took 150mg DM over 2 hours and 2 hours later I started to enjoy the goose bumps that I was finding extremely annoying and now feel a bit more content with things and feel very hungry and my mum's cooking smells bloody amazing right now!!!!! Fantastic!
Anyway, if anyone wants to try this method, take the syrup in low doses over the course of a few hours because you will just throw it all up if you try and take it all in 1 gulp.
150mg's isn't even a threshold dose to make one trip unless they weigh under 150kg so I guess it could be for some but I'm at 180kg. Anyway the idea isn't to FEEL it or be tripping on it but just to make one a bit more content and comfortable. :-)
Mmmmm for the first time in 8 days I can't wait to eat and I don't even know whats been cooked!
The DM also seems to be working a bit like a pain killer but it feels very different to opiates, its like you feel really heavy and big but you still feel things but not pain as such. Maybe its making me more introspective, lol but I also keep forgetting what positive thing's I was going to say.
I've never tried DM before for coughs or withdrawal but it is definitely helping. I just stuffed my face with a massive amount of food and my belly is thanking me for it!
I've never tried DM before for coughs or withdrawal but it is definitely helping. I just stuffed my face with a massive amount of food and my belly is thanking me for it!
Same poster as above^
Wow, now I have energy, I just jumped out my seat and effortlessly ran up to the toilet while being happily interactive with my mother on the way!
I still have a slight feeling of, What should I do now? Kind of thing going on, but that's maybe just slight confusion from a little too much DM?
Though, this is certainly better than how I was feeling before 2pm. Boredom almost gone (not waiting on time anymore just going with it), which is one of the worst effects of withdrawal, its like, Well what do I do with myself now then kind of feeling that makes one reach for those pills more than the actual pain itself!
I've also read that you can sleep well on this drug and there is no comedown at all but a nice after glow for a few days so this is a nice wee treat to the end of a horrible 7 day detox from opiates.
Also, I have NO cravings for ANY opiates :-).
Wow, now I have energy, I just jumped out my seat and effortlessly ran up to the toilet while being happily interactive with my mother on the way!
I still have a slight feeling of, What should I do now? Kind of thing going on, but that's maybe just slight confusion from a little too much DM?
Though, this is certainly better than how I was feeling before 2pm. Boredom almost gone (not waiting on time anymore just going with it), which is one of the worst effects of withdrawal, its like, Well what do I do with myself now then kind of feeling that makes one reach for those pills more than the actual pain itself!
I've also read that you can sleep well on this drug and there is no comedown at all but a nice after glow for a few days so this is a nice wee treat to the end of a horrible 7 day detox from opiates.
Also, I have NO cravings for ANY opiates :-).
You could maybe even call it an opiate deterrent with the introspective thoughts also. Its like seeing life in colour again! :-D
And I'm not liking the person that I was on the heroin or other opiates just now, starting to like myself more than that guy.
And I'm not liking the person that I was on the heroin or other opiates just now, starting to like myself more than that guy.
Well the DM worked very well last night, I even ended up drinking down another 140mg's at 7:30 so it got a bit trippy by the end sending a text to my girlfriend took ages (about an hour) then I was left with the TV on with it being NEWS night or something by 10pm.
It was really whacked out like psychosis style but it was making me laugh my ass off then I'd get huge waves of euphoria and dis-euphoria and be freaking out but wanting to laugh at the situation but being the NEWS I thought, NO this must be serious information I'm receiving through the TV. It was totally interactive with my mind and it was like they were using the TV as a way to transmit TOP SECRETE GOVERMENTAL INFORMATION through my mind!
At one point, the people even started to become me the ones in interview over a dispute about something that was really just totally ridiculous and over a long time ago and these wars that we've had are all just a big game of whose got the biggest gun, or whose scariest kind of thing. But it was also kinda like they were stuck in HELL and I was just a memory BANK and they were doing time because I was a super being that could pause time and travel to where they are and scare them and f**k them up and put them back together again. Like a Humpty Dumpty kind of theme lol. But I would never do that!
But I mean that all just seems totally ridiculous now and I'm all ok after some sleep, but it did keep me up thinking for a good while lol.
It was really whacked out like psychosis style but it was making me laugh my ass off then I'd get huge waves of euphoria and dis-euphoria and be freaking out but wanting to laugh at the situation but being the NEWS I thought, NO this must be serious information I'm receiving through the TV. It was totally interactive with my mind and it was like they were using the TV as a way to transmit TOP SECRETE GOVERMENTAL INFORMATION through my mind!
At one point, the people even started to become me the ones in interview over a dispute about something that was really just totally ridiculous and over a long time ago and these wars that we've had are all just a big game of whose got the biggest gun, or whose scariest kind of thing. But it was also kinda like they were stuck in HELL and I was just a memory BANK and they were doing time because I was a super being that could pause time and travel to where they are and scare them and f**k them up and put them back together again. Like a Humpty Dumpty kind of theme lol. But I would never do that!
But I mean that all just seems totally ridiculous now and I'm all ok after some sleep, but it did keep me up thinking for a good while lol.
just found this site by accident but all the writers comments apply to me, yes i know i am addicted to co-codamol and take about 10 to 14 500/20 a day, i am going to get my wife to hide them and only give me so many to last the day, thus slowly weaning me off them, i was prescribed them for pain, i still suffer the pain but realise from reading the posts here that some of that pain is due to actually taking codeine, i dont know what i will do about the pains i have but i have to stop this addiction before it kills me, i hope everyone here can get the help they need.
Hi , i've been reading this site/forum for a while now because sadley I AM A CODEINE ADDICT .. the :-S drug as i call it...
i've been addicted for 7 years, like many it started with nerofen plus or panadine,just 2 every now and then but b4 i new it i was taking 4-6 in 1 dose.. 3-4 times a day :-(
At my worst i was taking 24-30 per day (luckly my bodys still very healthy) I've been trying to get clean for a year now,with the help of GP'S and family support but keep relapsing.. the thing is, i thort i could stop taking them in 3 months by tapering,that was my first attempt (FAIL)
tried again and aimed for 5 month taper off (FAIL) again... by that stage i lost hope for a few months untill i heard my 2yr old daughter say "mummy's pills" ... that was it,i dont want her to see me take them (monkey see monkey do)
my 3rd attempt was trying cold turky (absolutely do not recomend this !!!!!) my with drawalls wernt all that bad, flu symptoms and restless legs that were horrible,after 2 weeks depression set in and hit me like a ton of bricks , horrible thorts , got to the point were i thort i was fighting a losing battle so why not let it END (suicide) ... i was literally forced to take codeine and hey presto,went from wanting it all over back to semi normal within hours ! 1 month later i stupidly tried cold turkey again and bang,same thing happened ..
i'm now on a 12month program through atods , drug rehab center.. my program is - 8-30mg codeine a day for a month,then 7 the following month and so on untill i hit the 5 month mark were we slow it down even more as this is the harder part of it - when i'm on 5 per day i alternante 1-30mg for a 15mg every second day untill my body stablizis to this ... this is going to take a long time but i refuse to let CODEINE run my life for ever.
Some maybe able to do this faster,me, i couldnt and i no i gave it my best but this programe WILL and HAS to work,i'm positive!!!!
GP's can only do so much as they dont fully understand the addiction,you need professionals in this field.
i wish everyone luck with this and hope we all come out on top !!!!
FAITHFULL XXX
i've been addicted for 7 years, like many it started with nerofen plus or panadine,just 2 every now and then but b4 i new it i was taking 4-6 in 1 dose.. 3-4 times a day :-(
At my worst i was taking 24-30 per day (luckly my bodys still very healthy) I've been trying to get clean for a year now,with the help of GP'S and family support but keep relapsing.. the thing is, i thort i could stop taking them in 3 months by tapering,that was my first attempt (FAIL)
tried again and aimed for 5 month taper off (FAIL) again... by that stage i lost hope for a few months untill i heard my 2yr old daughter say "mummy's pills" ... that was it,i dont want her to see me take them (monkey see monkey do)
my 3rd attempt was trying cold turky (absolutely do not recomend this !!!!!) my with drawalls wernt all that bad, flu symptoms and restless legs that were horrible,after 2 weeks depression set in and hit me like a ton of bricks , horrible thorts , got to the point were i thort i was fighting a losing battle so why not let it END (suicide) ... i was literally forced to take codeine and hey presto,went from wanting it all over back to semi normal within hours ! 1 month later i stupidly tried cold turkey again and bang,same thing happened ..
i'm now on a 12month program through atods , drug rehab center.. my program is - 8-30mg codeine a day for a month,then 7 the following month and so on untill i hit the 5 month mark were we slow it down even more as this is the harder part of it - when i'm on 5 per day i alternante 1-30mg for a 15mg every second day untill my body stablizis to this ... this is going to take a long time but i refuse to let CODEINE run my life for ever.
Some maybe able to do this faster,me, i couldnt and i no i gave it my best but this programe WILL and HAS to work,i'm positive!!!!
GP's can only do so much as they dont fully understand the addiction,you need professionals in this field.
i wish everyone luck with this and hope we all come out on top !!!!
FAITHFULL XXX
I went cold turkey to start with (like you i was taking a lot of these horrible tablets - Nurofen ands Panadine) and for 2 weeks i wen tto hell and back.
The only reason i came back was because i started the tablets (just panadine forte though - no nurofen again.....Anyway to cut a long story short i gradually cut down over a period of around 2 months. Yes my withdrawal took much longer - around 4 months - but i felt it was the only way for me..
Like you my reason was for my kids - esp when i started hearing my daugher who is 4 say that the chemist was my favourite shop..I also had an episode where i nearly passed out and then i found out my iron was very low and my liver function tests were abnormal. All back to normal now but it all made me freak out so much that i thought i was going to die from liver failure lol.
I thought my body was healthy too as i was always full of energy and never sick.....I have also since found out ihave reflux and gastritis - which im sure has been caused by the tablets. I now have to have an endoscopy every few years to make sure everything is okay. I do know if i had continued taking thoes tablets i would have damaged my body so much i would have caused my self a life threatening illness...
Good luck - you CAN ALL DO THIS. I did it alone, looking after my family of 2 young kids and a hubby, working and looking after a household.....
The only reason i came back was because i started the tablets (just panadine forte though - no nurofen again.....Anyway to cut a long story short i gradually cut down over a period of around 2 months. Yes my withdrawal took much longer - around 4 months - but i felt it was the only way for me..
Like you my reason was for my kids - esp when i started hearing my daugher who is 4 say that the chemist was my favourite shop..I also had an episode where i nearly passed out and then i found out my iron was very low and my liver function tests were abnormal. All back to normal now but it all made me freak out so much that i thought i was going to die from liver failure lol.
I thought my body was healthy too as i was always full of energy and never sick.....I have also since found out ihave reflux and gastritis - which im sure has been caused by the tablets. I now have to have an endoscopy every few years to make sure everything is okay. I do know if i had continued taking thoes tablets i would have damaged my body so much i would have caused my self a life threatening illness...
Good luck - you CAN ALL DO THIS. I did it alone, looking after my family of 2 young kids and a hubby, working and looking after a household.....
im a 27/m with a georgous 2yo and about to get married but been taking codiene for years and the more i think about it the longer it seems...Gods honest truth im on a 850 pill a week diet, its become second nature to me :-S its effected work and life in general.
i am currently reaserching a diploma in conselling to smash this head on, its a joke guys its a disease we control ,we choose to buy it we choose to take it ......its up to us stop it!!!! Either you read this or you dont ill never know but i will stop and it will start today ill help you for god knows ill need yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am currently reaserching a diploma in conselling to smash this head on, its a joke guys its a disease we control ,we choose to buy it we choose to take it ......its up to us stop it!!!! Either you read this or you dont ill never know but i will stop and it will start today ill help you for god knows ill need yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi everybody was just reading some of these stories and i can understand what people are going through with codiene addiction and what affect it has on family members i was an addict of codiene for nearly 11 years it starts off 2 four times a day as perscribed then over time your get immune to it so you add a few more etc etc some people WILL NOT addmit they have a problem as i didnt. Because you think it wont happen to me im in control wrong the little white demons (codiene) are always in control it gets to the point were you cant get out of bed without them until i was given a choice get help or lose my family. I am pleased to say this was the kick up the arse i needed as the day after i got in touch with my local group called NECCA who in turn put me in touch with COUNTED 4 who have helped me not only come off these demon pills but also get my life and family back by putting me on a SUBOXONE rehab program which i started in november 09 and to this day i have not touched a demon pill so if in doubt or you just want advice i would recommend that you get in touch with either NECCA OR COUNTED 4 there always there to help as i am one of them people.
There is no shame in asking for help if people love you they will understand but PLEASE PLEASE seek help before its to late and you lose the ones you love most and all you have is the demon pills as your family and friend.
All i can say is if you are worried seek profesional help ie doctor or a drug councilor they are always there to help you dont have to be an addict to use there service
Ok so after reading this i have relised i shouldnt be as worried as i am i take mersyndol daily as i get headaches and lots of womans problems, but i only take one after lunch and thats it i wouldnt dare take anymore i have 3 kids to look after and if i take 2 i am on the lounge for the rest of the day and i cant do that so my addiction isnt as bad as some of the people i have read i am terribly sorry to all of u and i hope u get the help u can its not nice knowing u have an addiction but cant tell anyone Goodluck everyone :)
It's 05:25. This is the second night that I've not slept at all. I'm on day 5 of cold turkey. I suffer from Bipolar which I've had for as long as I can remember. It makes me feel so desperately sad. It's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't been there. While in hospital, I met another patient who suffers from the same thing. He told me the best way to describe it to other people: If you've ever had to suffer a bereavement... the utter helplessness, sense of loss, volnerability, irritability, removal of all motivation, the feeling that everything is pointless. That is what it feels like when I literally "sink" into a low (I can feel it start and there is no way to stop it from getting worse). At it's peak, I become almost paralized. I'm sure my body works fine, but there is less than no point in even moving my head from my pillow.
Anyway, I started abusing Codeine 4 years ago and at the beginning it seemed to help. I was taking only a pitiful amount of 4 8/500 tabs a day but I guess I didn't need much because it made me feel euphoric and very optomistic all day. That didn't last long though. Until 5 days ago I was taking 64 8/500mg tabs per day. Liver damage and all that wasn't even a factor... I suppose an added bonus if it finished me off.
Now I feel like death. The physical pain I can deal with. It's not nice. Feels like I have the flu, IBS and food poisoning all at the same time. The thing I can't deal with right now is the insane cravings. I live 30 seconds walk away from a chemist which doesnt help.
I've spoken to doctors repeatedly about this but they never seem to take me seriously. The look at me and nod and then say "anything else?" like the conversation had never happened. Understandably though they will not help me by giving me valium or whatever it is that Opiate addictees use to get free of the addiction as Bipolar sufferers are known to have very addictive personalities. I had a course of Suboxone while in hospital with the bipolar but looking back i fail to see the point of it. It made me higher than any cocodamol ive taken in the past.
I just desperately need something that will calm me down for a few days while I deal with this, not get me high. Something that will help with the physical pain too would be good.
I fear the second stage that I've read about that effects how you feel mentally. The last thing I need is withdrawal depression.
What I'm really trying to say is that if there are people out there who are addicted like I am or who have a loved one in my situation as me... it's day 5 for me and already I feel a million times better than I did 5 days ago. I always read drug side effects with a pinch of salt. I can't help but think that they have been written by people who havn't actually experienced them. But I will say this (and if you are addicted just now you'll know exactly what I mean by this), if you can't be bothered to get up to make a cup of tea, tidy your house, meet a friend, it's because of the Codiene. It's nothing else. I promise you that.
All the best.
Anyway, I started abusing Codeine 4 years ago and at the beginning it seemed to help. I was taking only a pitiful amount of 4 8/500 tabs a day but I guess I didn't need much because it made me feel euphoric and very optomistic all day. That didn't last long though. Until 5 days ago I was taking 64 8/500mg tabs per day. Liver damage and all that wasn't even a factor... I suppose an added bonus if it finished me off.
Now I feel like death. The physical pain I can deal with. It's not nice. Feels like I have the flu, IBS and food poisoning all at the same time. The thing I can't deal with right now is the insane cravings. I live 30 seconds walk away from a chemist which doesnt help.
I've spoken to doctors repeatedly about this but they never seem to take me seriously. The look at me and nod and then say "anything else?" like the conversation had never happened. Understandably though they will not help me by giving me valium or whatever it is that Opiate addictees use to get free of the addiction as Bipolar sufferers are known to have very addictive personalities. I had a course of Suboxone while in hospital with the bipolar but looking back i fail to see the point of it. It made me higher than any cocodamol ive taken in the past.
I just desperately need something that will calm me down for a few days while I deal with this, not get me high. Something that will help with the physical pain too would be good.
I fear the second stage that I've read about that effects how you feel mentally. The last thing I need is withdrawal depression.
What I'm really trying to say is that if there are people out there who are addicted like I am or who have a loved one in my situation as me... it's day 5 for me and already I feel a million times better than I did 5 days ago. I always read drug side effects with a pinch of salt. I can't help but think that they have been written by people who havn't actually experienced them. But I will say this (and if you are addicted just now you'll know exactly what I mean by this), if you can't be bothered to get up to make a cup of tea, tidy your house, meet a friend, it's because of the Codiene. It's nothing else. I promise you that.
All the best.
im the same hun been addicted for 4 years have a little boy and he deserves so much better im taking about 28 a day and just want to get off them been to the GP 7 times and no help wat so ever
Hey my boyfriend thinks I'm addicted to codeine cause I use it every night to help me sleep I haven't really got many symptoms except nausea back pains restlessness And dizziness I don't think I have a Problem I just need help sleeping at night how can I get him to believe that I'm ok I just stress out alot and can never sleep at night time cause things always playing on my mind.