The secret to getting off Suboxone is:

Did you already try Melatonin?

Sam - I can totally understand your nervousness. BUT luckily you have no reason to be nervous on the switching over part!! I know that for sure. I've switched back and forth many times. You wont have WD's while switching at all. You just gotta do some and then add more if need be like Done said. You wont have WD's that will effect anything you're doing day to day (until IF you're taking peices w/your taper & no sub goal in mind).

The first few days and longer the sub will block a majority depending how much you jump at/your chemistry/length of use. So again, you may choose not to do any those days or if you wanted you could do some and would feel them but you would need to take way more than you actually would "need" once the sub blocking effects wear off and then you would have possibly increased your tolerance & the amount your spending for no reason. There's no way for anyone to know how much you would need b/c only you will once you do it. :)

I've tryed melatonin L- typtophan, zzz quil, and a bunch of OTC medication. The prescription stuff helps me sleep but makes me feel bad the whole next day. Tramadol does help but I wake up with a head ache. The Vic and perks worked without the head ache but those are gone and I needed to stop taking them just in case. In another post someone had said robotusim but that didn't work either.  I thought maybe there was something with less amount of op than the Vic I could get. 

Oh my god u just gave me the biggest relief ever!!!:) thank you!!!! I was just so nervous even wth just switching from subs to OPs that I wld feel awful n front of my daughter... Thank u again!! I will just take what I need to take an then take less an less of the OPs over 2 months time...

Tradazone (RX though) is the best I have found for sleep. Other then that, Klonopin (RX too). Any OTC sleep aids are pretty much the same from what I have experienced. Hope this helps some

Well - I had 5mg today of sub. Going back to work today was little on the rough side, super busy and tad stressful. I work from Thurs and Friday, so this will give me a chance to kick it down.

#28 a month today no subs! I went to work last night wasn't going to take anything but had a headache from the tramadol so I took an exdedrin and red bull. I don't know which one did it to me or if it was the mix of the two but  I got a major head buzz. I don't know how to explain the way I felt other than that but it it was bad. I ended up taking half of a perk quarter at  a time. Came home took a benadryl slept like a rock for 7 hours. I feel bad right now though super tired still have a headache. Man I just want to feel normal again.  

Glad after 28 days, you are getting there Done, I wish I was in your shoes. Appears I am stuck at 5mg of sub. I am thinking of getting my norco script, taking my 5 a day for 2 weeks, take sub for 3 days and deal with the aftermath. I am seriously slacking at work, like my head isn't in the game. Back in the 'Norco days" I was on the ball, top in my dept which I got promoted, now I feel like that is all slipping away. I don't why I am thinking like this, but man alive, this sub c**p STINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just don't feel right... Whatever 'right/normal' is. The headaches for the last 3 days are working overtime on me. 12 days into this and not sure what to think. What a mess - gez. My family is depending on me. Maybe I need a 30 day rehab or something...dunno.

Es, I complexity understand where your coming from, this sub has me in such a fog, I'm getng my perks ready, so I can switch for 2 months, then hopefully I'll b off the sub for good.. you shld try that, an if tht dsnt work, then go to the detox, if that's an option.. We're all here for you, an whatever u decide we're all rooting for u!!! Take care!:)

#29 took 1/2 a perk yesterday quarter at a time. Im almost there I went through most of my workshift with nothing. I found 3 quarters of aperk it should last me till Sunday. Doing way better then last week the days are definitely going by faster. The Benadryl is really working for the added sleep now. I have to be careFull on what I put in my body I had scrambled eggs with sausage yesterday and had the runs for four hours. No acitametaphine ( which is in over the counter pain killers) it messes with my head. Red bull is to strong but I can have a soda now. I think by next week I'll be able to sleep with just the Benadryl since every week I get one thing back and it's really the last thing to return. The first couple weeks were real bad, third week thought it would never end and superdepressed. Now I finally feel the end of this is within my reach. It blew but I'm making it and now I drive to work blasting my stero singinghappily to it like I used to do before the pills. When I was using I stopped appreciating the little things like a green tree against the blue sky now I find myself smiling staring at stupid stuff. I'm not 100% but my life doesn't revolve around stupid pills any more. I get to keep all mymoney and I'm finally getting me back and I used to be cool and funny. It's going to suck at first but i swear to you it does get better and it is %100 worth it. You just have to take that first step and try your hardest to be clean. You guys are just going to have to bit the bullet and jump stock up on vitamins and milk lots of milk. I think the suboxone stripes you of calcium that's why so many people complain about losing there teeth while on it. I crave milk all day long so replenish your body I would start now on a vitamin regiment. Fish oil for your brain, multivitamin is a must and exercise. If I were you guys I'd do it before you jump to try to get your body in a better state for what it's going to have to go through. Sex is also a good brain booster. Good luck guys.

That's just AWESOME! Thats all there is to say! Best of luck and Congrats!!!!!!

4mg today total of sub. Better day today I guess. I think the reduction part of sub will kick in 2-3 days later and that's what i am feeling. Saturday I am going to 2mg and see what happens. If nothing else prevails, I am going the Norco route for 2 weeks and hitting the sub for 4 days and that's it = see what happens. Not sure what I am in for, but I have no other choice. I am not living on pain meds or sub the rest of my life, no way in heck. DONE-DONE!

Good job man get angry it helps. It's a fight you against the meds and you better win cause it's the only life we get. Have you told your wife yet you'll need her help if your going to make it.

Evening! Done; No I haven't. I wrote out a letter just to get it out of my head. She is a nurse this happened to me before in 2012 Jan when my Grandpa and Dad passed away in 2 weeks of each other. I 'went off' on taking meds, meaning I was taking a bunch of it, mental numbness I guess. Since then, it's more a b-side subject. I am just letting this c**p buildup in my head like I always do and spill it when I can't handle it anymore. That's my nature. I used to be a professional mountain biker, sponsor and all and shattered my ankle in 14 pieces, I have 14 screws and 3 plates in my ankle which lead me to Norco. I have an endless script from my doc, but very strict when it comes refill time of 30 days. That ended my bike career and rest is good/bad. Mostly good, got married and 2 wonderful children, house, good job. etc....

But I feel like this is ALL sitting on the table right now with drugs. F'ing drugs man.. Period. Never took a drug in my life until that accident happened.

I do need to tell her, but it breaks her heart seeing me in this position. She is very caring, extremely caring and kind of puts a fence up between my feelings and telling her.

Tough stuff no doubt. I REALLY have to think this through, super serious stuff now.

It's tough I know when I told my boyfriend it took me a while to build up the nerve. I told him the day before I started subs. We had an amazing weekend on a mini vacation at a local resort buttered him up real good then broke the news. He was disappointed but I just let him know I was done with it and let him know about all the doctors I'd went to see till finally I found one that could help with suboxone. He knows I want to be clean and I'm working my butt off for it so he stood by me. I have kids and they aren't his but he took care of them when I was down for 2 weeks. He held me up and walked me around the block to get me moving cause I needed exercise to get better. If it wasn't for him I honestly don't think I would've been strong enough to resist the temptation of feeling good on a reg basis instead of feel like s**t for a month. My family and work knows that a doctor gave me meds that I have to come off of they don't know about the addiction prior but I still have support from all ends. It's a big deal cause this is the longest I've went through withdrawals without caving to an un returnable point. I think your way better off then the rest of us cause you haven't takin much of the suboxone yet. Two weeks and you'll probably be up and running again. 

#30 coworker brought me in Vicodin took 2 5mg last night at work. It made me feel like cr*p it had 500 mg of acitametaphine in it and my body just doesn't like that stuff anymore. At least i won't be tempted by it plus gave the bottle to my guy just in case. I slept six hours last night no Benadryl hoping tonight I'll just crash on my own. If I can't a chip of one of those pills will put me out that's why i got them in the first place cause they are not as addictive as the percocets and to help with sleep without feeling bad in the morning.