Unable to get Suboxone without going to MD appts and insuran

Yes and cant handle it!

I understand iwas one of the first to use suboxone as a matter of fact I was paid to take it for the study fore Yale Hospital.I was able to get off the eds pretty easy the first time but it took a long wiening period and at the time it was free. I had to go back on it because of a back injury and you will get high off it for a little while it is that strong but this time i could not get off it and I need help as well.If you have a copay for medication they will give you a coupon to get them for free but I have bad insuranse because I lost my job .I believe that the docters and insurance companies take advantage of you instead of helping.I used to pay $25 at the docters twice a month and my coupon from suboxone would get me the meds for free,now its $600 a month and I still have no job We need to find help because the withdrawels for me were very bad this time.Dont get me wrong I was saved by suboxone 8 years ago and was on it for 2 years but know 10 years later im in the same situation but this time it will ruin my life.Ive had 4 total years of this medication. It can be god send or a nighmare.Suboxone please help me and these people that are having trouble till we can get back on our feet.

Then what do you do to help someone who has a problem and depends on medication! Im struggling to keep my mother alive and this is the hardest things ive ever had to do!! She doesn't have insurance and i am paying almost $500 a month for her suboxone films!!! i'm at wits end and i'm pregnant.. This is not healthy for anyone.

after reading all the back and forth about sub killing any opiate high or throwing you "into" withdrawal if taken to soon or if your high already.  Here ARE a couple of first hand FACTS about it that I can attest to: I was on methadone for 18 yrs. the last 2 yrs I decided to detox myself off and just take less every week. I did that successfully. And when I was down to just 2-5 mg I really didn't want to keep paying 600 bucks a month as when I was on 100 mg. so I wanted to switch over to sub. The doc gave me subutex ion stead od suboxone because of my liver issues, it's better for me. So now i'm on 2-3 mg of meth, he gave me roxicett, Percocet without the Tylenol in it, for 2 weeks, 10 a day to get the malingering meth out my system. I set my dat at the end of the 2 weeks to start, and it dam near killed me!!! It sucked whatever meth was left in me so fast kit was horrible and we didn't realize what had happened because it was 2weeks later and off meth. So he said just keep taking it but not as much. For 2 months I was all messed up feeling like I was in the worst coke jones ever, B/P stayed steady at 185/105, and severely depressed and with drawling symptoms!!! So I stopped it and went back on pills to level me out!! 5 months later wanting to get off the pills, I tried sub again. Waited until I was in withdrawal badly, and hesitantly took my sub. Worked like a charm and on it ever since. I did fib and dab a bit with morphine and oxy's. when I was on 2-4 MSG of subutxex I would get a really good high with all the physical benefits! (No need to go there) but when I was up on 6-8mgs I would eat about 7-10 morphine and only the warm feeling at best, nothing else would happen. NOW, I started taking only 2-3 MSG a day with 8-10 morphines for a while, both! But when I finished all my pills about a week later, I took my regular dose of sub, 8 MSG, it threw me into withdrawal

Because many people seem to not actually realize this I feel the need to state it... A common misconception that is for some reason perpetuated by many doctors as well (probably just to scare people so they don't do it) is that IV suboxone will cause withdrawal due to the naloxone in it. This is false, and with some searching one can find many first hand accounts that will say so. The reason bupenorphine blocks the effects of opiates/ causes precipitated withdrawals when administered on top of opiates already present is because bupenorphine has an extremely high affinity to mu receptors, so it binds very strongly and displaces any other opiates already present, and blocks any new ones trying to bind to receptors. As a matter of fact, it's affinity to mu receptors is so strong that it even displaces and blocks naloxone, which is why if one were to search they would find that bupenorphine overdose is extremely difficult to treat as the opiate antagonists (naloxone, naltrexone) have lower affinities and thus have no effect on the bupenorphine already present. This remains true through all routes of administration; if both naloxone and bupenorphine are present in the blood stream, regardless of how it got there, the bupenorphine will outcompete the naloxone for opiate receptors. Therefore, it makes no difference whatsoever if the drug is IV'd, snorted, taken sublingually, plugged, or however one may take it, the naloxone will have no effect regardless. If anyone wishes to contend this fact, I ask that they do some searching and they will find both that what I said regarding bupenorphine having a higher affinity is true, and first hand accounts of bupenorphine being administered intravenously yet still causing the same standard effects regardless. Good post. It is the reason you won't get high on your opiate of choice while taking suboxone. The opiate in suboxone binds despite the naltrexone while no other opiate is permitted to bind.

Posters like you are dangerous for the following reasons:
1) you don't answer the original question
2) you espouse conspiracy theories
3) your response is just incorrect
4) you bore me with your "political" leanings

That's enough.

Everyone responds to the withdrawal differently and it is all a money scam for the sub doctors. Go to meetings and your entire life is better is garbage. I was taking less than 1mg per day for 2 weeks and thought that when I stopped the symptoms would be almost none and I had as many symptoms as I did when I had no opiates. I was more determined than anything to be done and it was not "in my mind". Sounds like you think you can judge everyone else based on what happened to you and that really sucks. Your response is garbage and not at all helpful to anyone!

I would like you to get your facts straight, I have ivd both subutex and suboxone, and the naloxone does nothing of that like you say, unless you shoot the suboxone right after shootin a bag of boy...then the precipitated wd are horrible, but have shot subutex while going to meth. clinic and never got sick.

Dude you clearly have no clue what your talking about

Yes I know exactly what I'm talking about because I used to shoot over a gram of heroin a day and BTW, I'm no dude, I'm a chick! And I shoot subutex everyday. And I also go to the methodone clinic everyday, and as long as it's not SUBOXONE I'm shooting and just the SUBUTEX, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE NALOXONE IN IT LIKE SUBOXONE DOES, SO THERE FOR I DO NOT GET SICK!! I DO NOT get sick from NALOXONE when I shoot suboxone, UNLESS I HAVE ALREADY DONE A BAG OF HEROIN THE SAME DAY OR ANY OTHER OPIATE FOR THAT MATTER, And then it gives you precipitated withdrawls, which usually only last 5 or so minutes, and the precipitated withdrawls are VERY UNCOMFTRABLE. So I DO know what I'm talking about. I know what I put in my veins and what I don't!!

Shut up you have to QUIT THE SUBOXONE to get the w/d so if they are on no shil they didn't with draw

I hear ya! Ive been in the doc almost three years, it's a brain drug and it trulya makes one a slave to it. I am ready to kick the final evil of opiate b.s. Ive played the government game with the methadone clinic as well, worse withdrawal than street dope. So many do not see how evil=it truly is along with all pharmagia/

This is an uniformed comment. If he had "willpower " he never would have gotten addicted to opiates in the first place. Your friends are on subs but you haven't watched them come off subs or experienced it yourself. They get you off Pain pills and then you get addicted to them. Subs are a b***h to wd from. 

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I do not want to pay 500 agsin to help me