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ritaray
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Posted: 08/03/07 - 07:00 Post subject: Self-stimulating infant seems to reach orgasm. |
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| At around 12 mos., my granddaughter began stimulating herself by laying on her stomach & stimulating herself by moving her hips in a rhytmic motion. She began only doing it when she is tired & would put herself to sleep this way. Now she does it a lot more often......in her high chair, carseat, etc. Sometimes when she does it now, she nearly screams & seems to get frustrated at times. She will sometimes have a glassy look in her eyes as if she's in deep concentration or a trance-like state. If you try to distract her or pick her up before she's 'ready', she will cry & fight us. We were worried about her being sexually abused, but she's not left alone with strangers. I did many searches & finally found a Kinsey report called Chapter 2, which eased our minds greatly. My question is this.... what should we do to keep this from becoming a habit? We don't want her to think it's a 'bad' thing to do, but she's too young to explain to her that this should be done in private. Any info you can give us will be extremely appreciated. After searching the web MANY, MANY times, I'm astonished how little information is out there pertaining to this. It seems like anyone I talk to has had this same experience or knows someone who has. Is the USA so sexually repressed that we cannot even discuss such a normal part of human behavior? What a scary thought. Please help. Any insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks........Confused Grandma |
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daisy33loca
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Posted: 08/08/07 - 10:17 Post subject: |
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The Kinsey report is a very debated "report" by a simple google and search, I would never, as a parent go by that or any one thing.
In fact I searched and read in regards to chapter 2 "Kinsey and his colleagues have been castigated for not exposing the persons responsible for stimulating these infants to orgasm. Such behavior is generally regarded as child sexual abuse today."
Another search indicated thousands of pages indicating terrible things.. here is just some of what is being said...
The evidence is now clear that Kinsey's research was fraught with lies, deceit, and fraudulent data. His "scientific" methodology was anything but scientific. The means by which he and his colleagues conducted research and gathered data was oftentimes criminal according to the laws of the time, and even by the laws of today. Contrary to the benevolent publicity accorded him, Kinsey and his hand-picked co-authors and colleagues fit the classic definition of "sexual psychopath" according to Dorland's Medical Dictionary: "an individual whose sexual behavior is manifestly anti-social and criminal" (1981, p. 1091).
Kinsey's deviant sex life appears to have been hidden from the public by Indiana University and The Rockefeller Foundation, a financial and philosophical supporter of Kinsey's research. However, James H. Jones, an Indiana University scholar and Kinsey Institute grantee, reveals some insider information about Kinsey and his research team in the 937-page biography, Alfred C. Kinsey: A Public/Private Life (1997, WW Norton).
Kinsey's Research Team
Jones' data confirms other reports that Kinsey was a sexist, racist and atheist who excluded women, Jews, blacks, and moral traditionalists from his staff and hired only homosexuals and bisexuals (with one short-term exception). Kinsey only hired sexual deviants on whom he could rely to keep his secrets — including his fraud, his "uncommon desires," and the child molesters he used to conduct child sex experiments. Jones also reported that Kinsey: coerced his wife into participating in acts of adultery and sodomy with his staff and co-authors (which were filmed), seduced male students at Indiana University (and bullied their wives into participating), filmed sex with his male co-workers (who were rewarded by promotion to co-authorship), and filmed himself participating in sado-masochistic sex rituals.
Kinsey's Research on Children
Not only was Kinsey's research on adult sexuality based on his own homosexual and sadomasochistic perversions, but the data he collected on the alleged sexuality of children were based on brutal sex crimes against children. For example, part of Kinsey's research protocol involved "orgasm" experiments on children, some as young as 2 months of age.
The pedophilic experimenters claimed that the 317 to 2,045 (reports vary) abused infants and children were unharmed by the masturbation, sodomy and rape perpetrated to test these alleged "orgasmic" responses (see: British Yorkshire Television's Kinsey's Pedophiles). On pages 160-161 of Kinsey's Male volume, the children's "screams," their "convulsions," their "hysterical weeping," "fighting," and "striking the partner" (the adult) are judged by Kinsey as reflecting "definite pleasure from the situation."
My book Kinsey: Crimes & Consequences (1998, 2000) details how children were obtained and experimented upon, and how Kinsey used such child sex experimental data as part of an on-going collegial, cross-cultural, multinational, "fact-finding" research project. For example, some of Kinsey's data was derived from sexual experiments performed on children by Dr. von Balluseck, a Nazi collaborator in Germany who Kinsey described as an educated man of a "scientific bent."2 It should be noted that Kinsey corresponded with Dr. von Balluseck during a time in history when Nazis were conducting similar human experiments en masse.
Based on his allegedly scientific data, Kinsey claimed that children enjoyed sex and the real harm of adult-child sex stemmed from "hysterical" parents, teachers and professionals who reacted with anger and horror to children's disclosures. Based on his findings, many legislatures lightened or eliminated penalties for sexual offenses — reversing the judiciary's traditional leniency toward women as the "weaker sex" in cases of sex abuse and betrayal, and toward children as "victims" in cases of incest and child molestation. Since this time, the courts have been increasingly distrustful and punishing of victimized women and children
I would be very careful.
As far as your child, I would take her to the doctor and check for infections or other things that may be irritating her. I also would not immediatly put a sexual label on what she is doing. She is a baby, just ignore it if the doctor doesn't find anything. |
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Posted: 03/22/08 - 13:13 Post subject: Re: Self-stimulating infant seems to reach orgasm. |
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| I have a family member, infant, that is experiencing this same behavior. Have you found any other information regarding this issue? |
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Posted: 05/04/08 - 00:45 Post subject: |
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if you take any advice at all it would be this:
what you are describing is NOT abnormal... |
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Posted: 05/07/08 - 03:55 Post subject: masturbation in infants |
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WOW!
I am so glad someone else brought this up.
When my 9 year old son was only 2 weeks old, I was laying with him in my bed and had him laying on top of my stomach and chest. All of a sudden, he started thrusting his pelvis back and forth like a man having sex would! I was shocked! He did this for about 10 seconds, and then I turned him over on his back and checked his diaper. His penis was erect! I really freaked out and to this day can't figure out how or why a 2 week old baby would do something like that. I was his only caretaker from the time we left the hospital, and I have NEVER touched any of my children inappropriately.
I never saw it happen again when he was a baby, but to this day, he has a tendency to stimulate himself, I think he does it without even realizing it most of the time.
After the experience I had with my son at 2 weeks, I wondered if it was possible that some people have natural sexual urges that start very early, and that it doesn't necessarily mean that someone stimulated them that way? |
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Posted: 05/09/08 - 19:01 Post subject: |
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| Guest wrote: | if you take any advice at all it would be this:
what you are describing is NOT abnormal... |
Every single child is different. I have had 5 children and they all experimented with themselves at times. I never made them feel dirty, i just distracted them. My daughter, who is now a healthy 30 year old mother of 3 boys, was very sexual in childhood. She was always rubbing herself on pillows, couch cushions, arms of furniture, whatever she could. I would just turn her attention to something else. I never made a big deal. And you are right by saying this is not abnormal for a child to do this.
My friend has a little girl who is 3. She would do this ALL THE TIME, any where, it didn't matter who was in the room. She would actually ride peoples knees. I was at her home one day and helped her go potty, she couldn't climb up on the toilet and needed help to wipe. As i was puling up her panties i noticed something hanging from her vaginal area. I called my friend into the bathroom ASAP and showed her. This little girls clitoris was hugh and hanging from between her labia. 2 weeks later they performed surgery on her. Today she is fine. For her it was a medical problem. But for others, it is normal. |
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