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hello everyone,

I feel that I am hearing my story - but I have taken this to the extreme. I guess that I felt the stuff would/had benefited my life and my health condition but after hearing these stories maybe I have taken it too far. I've had the back problems since as long as I can remember and dont know which came first the back problems or starting smoking. I've gone through a million docs - chiropractors, phys therapy, orthopedists, ER, now on to neurologists.

At this point Im out of work 6 weeks and can no longer hold my body up with standard postrue - I have an almost wobly spine. I think maybe more so after I consume. I will admit that I have not stopped the good stuff and continue to consume more than once every day.

It started with pain above my left shoulder and only on that side almost as if those muscles had become numb and no longer worked properly - almost less muscle mass in that area and pain began running down my arm. Originally chiropractor took xray and said slight scoliosis - so I started excercising all the time for that. I was exercising 3-4 week swimming, running, weight lifting, etc. until BOOM one day after 1 year extensive exercise I fell out and could no longer move practically started suffering attacks, like autoimmune. Next Dr said herniated disc because I described it and it sounded just like herniated disc but none showed up in MRI's. The attacks continued and here I am suffering. I think I need to take a retreat and stop with the stuff - but even when I stop for like 4 days the pain is still evident 24-7, there is no relief. Been using capzacin everyday for warm therapy - now with dr prescription on vicodin and vallium. Vallium seems to help but makes you really out of it; I hope im not enjoying it too much. The vicodin is weak though doesnt really help. I thought I had a bacterial infection though. But we will find out soon enough as I am seeing a neurologist next and will have blood tests too to detect autoimmune disease.

im still out from work but want to get back to a fully functioning life and just hope everyday that this is not the cause of my problems but just as someone said earlier i fear that I will just have to chalk it up as a loss and "grow up" and stop doing my meditation sort of thing if you know what i mean. I guess I would never admit that the pains get worse after i consume but maybe they do - the thing is that the symptoms are always present now.

And to the guy who is talking about his shoulder blade getting all funny - I relate. It feels like a total disproportion from the left and right side here, and the left is weak and almost locked up and has not as much movement. I feel these things come from postural imbalances over time - especially sitting in a stationary position for over 8 hrs - you tend to lock into one leaning position and it seems to freeze up on you. Over time you no longer have a strict posture and you are always wobbling from side to side, im also tall though. confusion frustration agony depression etc all become present.

I have also been on ritilan from 2nd grade until college - and had recently tried to start back - but feel that ritilan is the worst BS ever - why should any kid be put on that. I thought it used to make me manic super man and I could do anything - but with the combination of the condition, the exercising, and leading a very demanding work life I feel that I did myself in and need ample time to recover now. I just dont have much faith in healthcare and all right now but this does seem very mysterious and I feel reading here has helped with some issues. None of my other friends who partake have ever heard anything like it and have said there is no way that this is the cause. But some of that opposite body reaction stuff may make sense.

It seems that maybe you get a small injury - maybe you took a big b-rip and strained your inner lung cavity wall and there is a small muscle tear or pull and over time, yes, your body overreacts to that injury and it becomes a systematic recurring injury or some sort of attack. I heard the same thing one dude had mono and smoked and now he says that whenever he smokes his mono symptoms come back so he had to stop. Has anyone had experience with other means of consumption lessening their symptoms such as vapor, eating, or tincure even. Because I would like to continue in these ways if possible.
Hi:
I'm sorry, I don't know about the vapor stuff, but I'd like to help with some ideas. Could you, as you mentioned, have injured your muscle a while back without knowing it and it morphed into these other symptoms. Perhaps that type of injury is not as detectable. My other thought was a pinched nerve, which could cause a multitude of painful symptoms, including yours. Have you checked out this possibility. I hope this helps...Please let us know. I also hope that other members might have some ideas for you. I hope you will find answers soon.
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