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wow! so you believe a 15 yr old dating a 20 yr old is inhumane? Do you understand the meaning of that word?
Illegal?? Do you believe legality actually has a role in true relationships??
You really sound so immature, illogical and very very naive !
This is NOT a forum where you come on and simply go on a rant and insult people for their choices.
Do you understand biology and how we are wired?? I guess you dont.
All you can do is very ignorantly spout off what your brain has been primed to do - you have been brainwashed to believe such relationships are bad. You are merely a cow in a herd of cattle following the rubbish society espouses. You regurgitate recycled garbage!! You have no mind of your own and you lack the capacity for analytical thought.
Remember, some of us girls need the influence and maturity of an older guy in our lives. That may be for reasons only the girl in the relationship would understand. It is not wrong for the girl to be in that relationship and is should NEVER be our role to judge and condemn their choice.
Not all such relationships are bad. Many such relationships go underground because they dont want anyone to find out. That is so sad that girls have to resort to such secret relationships. Younger girls thrive on such relationships especially when the male is endearing, loving, patient, kind and emotionally supportive. That is far far better than having a younger same age guy who is irresponsible and lacks the maturity and love that the younger girl is seeking. Same age younger guys are very careless, lack honest emotion and just DONT want to put in the hard work and dedication that is essential in such relationships.
There is NO suggestion that this relationship is abusive, that there is emotional neglect, that there is physical harm, that there are drugs and alcohol involved. Obviously it is a healthy robust relationship. Isnt happiness all that matters? Dont you think that if the girl is happy we should be happy for her? Sex will happen. There is no doubt about that and there is absolutely nothing wrong with having sex, even if the guy is a lot older, as long as the girl does not fall pregnant and there is no chance of her contracting STDs.
So stop judging younger girls who go for older guys. That is their need. May not be yours.
ALSO, it seems your ignorance is huge. You dont seem to understand the definition of who fulfills the label "paedophile" Permit me to educate you. I can assure you that that 20 yr old guy dating the 15 yr old girl is NOT a paedophile. Paedophile is one who goes for PREpubescent individuals. This girl is 15 and hence NOT PREpubescent. So the guy cannot be labelled a paedophile! So please, get your facts right when you want to rant and judge. Otherwise you come off as being silly, uneducated, highly strung and just a noise generating useless individual who likes to throw her weight around.
No one will pick on her in school. I know that for sure. I am sure she confides in just a few - those who are her very close friends. I am sure those who are her true friends would never judge her.
Also, if she can be discreet, the relationship will go unnoticed and if no one finds out the question of prison doesnt come up.
You seem very bitter and twisted. That probably stems from the fact youve never been lucky with guys and youve never been chosen by a guy. I bet youve never been in a good relationship ever before and you are terribly frustrated hence feel righteous about insulting others. The dog in the manger attitude.
Sad situation really. My advice - live and let live! For your information there are many girls like this girl in this relationship we are discussing. She is 15. When she turns 16 these arguments become redundant. She reaches the age of consent.
I bet you are from the USA. The way you insult and judge is a dead give away. You are a self appointed moral judge. No one cares about you!!
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sometimes someone is lucky than me... I wish I could sex
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Nothing to do with luck. You need to want to do it, have a nice open mind, be prepared and read bout stuff and find the right partner to have sex. Right now society has done a great job putting fear into a girl's mind, instilling guilt and making having sex something to do with lack of morals.
This is what is affecting sexuality and the freedom of choice in teen girls. They are expected by parents and society to fit a pre determined societal norm. Then, the stupid law interferes and this reduces the chance of a girl having a free fulfilling wholesome sexual experience.

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play with yourself while your having sex you will orgasism then
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yes rub your clit till u think ur gonna p and i might happen
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There are a multitude of things a 24 year man should know about & practice to help you to reach orgasm. Gotta say the fact a 24 year old is in a relationship with a 15 year old girl is a red flag. When I was in my mid 20s, I dated women in my age range as well as older women. I especially enjoyed women in their late 30s and early 40s.

The difference between a 15 year old and a 24 year old is a mile wide-don't understand what you see in each other especially if you're not sexually satisfied.
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maff is hard I know but 15 and 9 add up to 24, not 20 and the difference between a 15 year old girl and a 24 year old man is a Grand Canyon. It has nothing whatsoever to do with legality or morality, it's just such a difference in life lived that I Idon't understand how they can have much in common.

Especially if this young lady is sexually unsatisfied. A 24 year old man should know plenty of ways to enjoy sex with a woman.

I bet you're from Europe, I can smell the condescension.
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hahahaha and I think you are definitely from the USA. That country is such a huge anomaly.
BTW not all 15 yr olds will want relationships with 24 yr olds BUT there are those that do want one for various reasons. I was one of them and can I tell you it was the most fabulous experience. I will never regret my decision and I will tell you, hand on heart I WAS NOT ABUSED or taken advantage of. That is a stupid ignorant assumption people make when a teen girl dates an older guy. Society has been primed to think that way and have lost their ability to think logically and rationally.
I think those big age gap relationships can be extremely productive ESPECIALLY if the 24 yr old is mature and benevolent, very well educated and temperamentally sound, has no bad habits like smoking, drugs or alcohol and who can be that positive influence on the girl who thrives from that relationship.
The problem is that because such age gap relationships have been outlawed, the pool of good, stable, sensible, mature older guys has shrunk and has left behind the risk taking ones who are also not of sound character and true rat bags.
By doing this, society and the law have achieved a self fulfilling prophecy ie that older guys are bad for our teen girls. Isnt that so silly and so very very stupid? We ( as in the USA) have only ourselves to blame for this awful situation.
I am amazed that I have to spell it out for you to see it.
Now you have condemned many younger teen girls to choosing ONLY same age guys who to me, suck big time and are so immature and are the cause for all the abuse and rapes, drug spiking of drinks and teen pregnancies. Would you rather have that??
If I was a parent I would encourage my 14 or 15 yr old daughter to have a relationship with an intelligent well educated financially secure older guy so she could have a bright future, NOT a life full of drugs, alcohol and wild parties where she falls pregnant because she was raped by a gang of same age guys at the party. THOUGHTS?
I am sure you will come up with some smart a**e answer. Your minds have been primed and brainwashed to think only in one way. Very sad situation I guess. The USA anomaly!!!

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If you can simply open your mind and try to look into such relationships honestly and with that open mind and a non judgemental approach/attitude, you will find millions of reasons why the both of them got together in the first place.
This is biology at its best. Attraction is a complex thing. Humans, society and the law stupidly believe they can control such behaviour with man made artificial laws. Doesnt work!!! Girls and guys who want such relationships find ways around the laws to achieve their needs and to fulfill their desires. The laws aint working. I can say that very confidently.
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No where did I say the younger girl was being abused. My contention, especially in light of the fact she's not being sexually satisfied, is that there's not much that they have in common.

You may have had a wonderful experience with an older man but outside of the sex, what did you talk about? Or do together? Did you spend time with he and his friends? Did he take you to his favorite haunts? Meet each other's families?

I think it's great when you can introduce someone to something they're unfamiliar with and let them decide whether or not it's appealing. But an age gap like that will preclude much of that going the other way. What did you teach your older lover? I'll wait.
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"...you will find millions of reasons why the both of them got together..." I'm waiting, name two...besides the sex. And she's unhappy with that!

As for this contention, "I am sure you will come up with some smart a**e answer" I'm definitely going with European, either Scandinavian or French, you're much too haughty for Germany or Poland.
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One more thing I'd like to touch on.

Occasionally I enjoyed the company of older women when I was in my late teens and early 20s. They were wonderful sexual teachers and I learned other things as well. About classical music, dining, cooking...

However the things I was knowledgeable about e.g. carpentry, my art discipline, sports, building machinery, glass chemistry...were not interesting to them. Fine. We enjoyed meals, went out and made love. Nothing wrong with that.

There was one lady that could play better tennis than me and I loved that.
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There may be a reason why she isnt being sexually satisfied. Do they have the privacy so needed in such relationships that the stupid has outlawed? Do they have the necessary time and place to have their sexual encounters? Is she scared about getting caught? Sex can be difficult at first. Do I need to explain - well let me try. Size disparity, being well lubed, the erect penis of a full grown man looks enormous, oral sex ( very awkward at first), body image issues in a very young teen of age 13/14 or 15, the stretchy of the hymen ripping and so many other things, even simple things like kissing and wondering if you are doing it well or not.
You see there are so many such things that are preoccupations that do hamper an individuals ability to enjoy the sex.
The guy I was with had his own place and it was so good. I felt so free, liberated and I loved it. My very first time was an all day all weekender. It was awesome because he was patient and took his time. He knew what to do.
NOW, Outside sex there are so many things - music, sport, discuss friends and school stuff, talk about going away and enjoying time off, food etc etc.
Yes we did a lot together. I used to go with him to his holiday place far away in the hills in a remote location and we would fish, ride horses, go trekking and walking in the bushland, swimming in the creeks - so so many things.
Ofcourse I couldnt meet his familt and friends BUT I would take my friends to his place and would have such a ball. There is so much you can do. Older guys are extremely patient and take a lot of trouble to make sure the younger girl friend is enjoying the fun and is cared for in every which way.

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Good on you. Well done. Do you feel taken advantage of? Did you feel sexually exploited? I bet not. So why has it got to be different with an older guy and a much younger girl. We love it too.
Somehow if we have such relationships we are made to feel guilty and made to believe we were abused. What a lod of c**p! Seriously. These stupid laws need to change. They are rubbish and so useless

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He definitely loved the sex. There was no doubt about that. I enjoyed it too. So whats the biggie? Same age guys want sex too. I dont understand why it should be okay to have sex with same age guys but not with much older guys we choose and want to be with. Is society so daft and dumb?

Hahahaha I am not going to tell you about where I am from. Keep guessing. LOLOLOL

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