for the last year or so, my friend (we're both 20) and i have been manually stimulating/masterbating each other by facing each other with our legs intertwined. we rub up and down on each others legs... before this happens we are usually rubbing and touching each other's breasts and massaging each other. i know this is kind of detailed, but the thing is, we have never talked about it. it usually happens when we're spending the night at each other's houses and then after we've been asleep for a while. should i bring this up to her, we both act like it never happened. what do i do? and what does this mean? i just don't want to ruin our friendship... i'm totally confused about this. is this normal for heterosexual female friends to ever do?!?
Persionaly i think u should not talk 2 her, because if u r bolth straight than their iz nuttin rong. As for being normal i dont no butmaby u and yer friend r just relly open and all women (straight or gay) have theas fealings. %-) PEACE OUT!!!!
Yeh, it coudl be just animal getting off. It does sound rather tender and lesbo though. It doesn't matter. Do what feels good and don't label yourself one way or another. If you are nervous then it is just as much up to your mate to talk about it as you so leave it to her if you like.
yeah, but here's the thing, my friend NEVER is the first to bring ANYTHING up. for anything kind of uncomfortable, she usually lets other people bring it up first... but really don't know if i should/want to...
What is it you want to say? You want to do it more often? You want to know if she wants a relationship? Whether she is gay/bi? Is there anything that actually needs to be said?
i just wonder why we never bring it up. like never acknowledge it....
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Hey, im not sure how long its been going on but if your that close and its apparently bothering you that its never mentioned maybe try talking a little right after it happens one night.... Or if you guys ever have a few drinks and you feel like its a good time to bring it up and not seem totally uncomfortable since youve both had a few drinks... that type of situation, yanno?
Theres nothing wrong with it, I hope you dont feel dirty or anything like that, but definately work on getting to a point where it can be talked about amongst the two of you. Chances are shes having the same thoughts and feeling nervous in the face of day just as you are.
Much luck!! :)
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Yeh, it coudl be just animal getting off. It does sound rather tender and lesbo though. It doesn't matter. Do what feels good and don't label yourself one way or another. If you are nervous then it is just as much up to your mate to talk about it as you so leave it to her if you like.Persionaly i think u should not talk 2 her, because if u r bolth straight than their iz nuttin rong. As for being normal i dont no butmaby u and yer friend r just relly open and all women (straight or gay) have theas fealings. :? PEACE OUT!!!!
Hey, im not sure how long its been going on but if your that close and its apparently bothering you that its never mentioned maybe try talking a little right after it happens one night.... Or if you guys ever have a few drinks and you feel like its a good time to bring it up and not seem totally uncomfortable since youve both had a few drinks... that type of situation, yanno?
Theres nothing wrong with it, I hope you dont feel dirty or anything like that, but definately work on getting to a point where it can be talked about amongst the two of you. Chances are shes having the same thoughts and feeling nervous in the face of day just as you are.
Much luck!! :)
Do you talk during it? If not, that might be a good start. Saying that it feels goodor whatever. Then afterwards, say something jokey like "that hit the spot" or something that will make you both giggle and take it from there.
we really don't talk or anything during it either. and here's the thing, lately it's just seemed like she's kinda distant to me too, and i keep thinking that maybe it's because all of that... i'm not sure. i don't mind it when that stuff happens between us, but then afterwards i'm really not sure what to think. it's kind of a vicious cycle for me. but, some good advice from you guys so far, thanks...
I know you guys dont really talk about it, its a tough situation, especially now that you feel like it might be making her distant. Maybe its time to stop doing it, stop creating the situation for it to happen i.e. sleepovers!! lol
And see if it breeches the drift your feeling.
I dont think an orgasm is worth losing a friend over, yanno...?
Good luck!
And see if it breeches the drift your feeling.
I dont think an orgasm is worth losing a friend over, yanno...?
Good luck!
yeah, i agree with what you say. i think it should stop too, she's actually the one who usually initiates it though. and i do know that never acknowledging something like this probably really bothers her, as it does me, but of course neither want to bring it up. i think it's weird for her to be acting weird about it or distant if she's the one that usually initiates the things we do... ??
That may be why, that shes initiating it and maybe she kinda feels extra odd or embarrassed later,like maybe you dont really wanna, your just doing it so she wont be mad or something. Is there any possibility of her being a lesbian...? There may be a possibility that she wants more and is afraid to tell you or talk about it bc since shes the one that always initiates the intimacy, she feels guilty..... know what im saying?
Im sure you have far more insight as to her personality etc. Just trying to be here for you to bounce things off of. :)
Hang in there!!
Im sure you have far more insight as to her personality etc. Just trying to be here for you to bounce things off of. :)
Hang in there!!
if there was a chance that she's a lesbian or even bi-sexual, i don't think she'd ever admit it. here's one for you... we're both from devout Christian backgrounds and active in both of our churches. i have a feeling that she wouldn't want to pursue anything because of our religious beliefs, you know? i always tend to think if something seems wrong that i've done something wrong, and it's never the other party that has or is feeling like they have done something wrong to me. so it's hard for me to think that that's the reason why she acts distant... although it could be something different entirely, i guess. and even though i've been saying that i don't really want to bring it up, i really do feel more and more like we need to actually talk about it (although i don't know what to say) and i think the only thing that keeps me from bringing it up is that it would make our friendship more distant or uncomfortable... what do you think?
Hmm.... I think the only way to get an answer or some closure or w/e you wanna call it, is to just get it out.... just blurt something out when you two are alone to Make it be addressed.... Im sorry that religion can make ppl feel so bad sometimes, its not like either of you are serial killers or anything. I guess all I can tell you on that is to embrace who you are, believe that your still as good a person as you know yourself to be regardless of engageing in a harmless sexual act. You arent being promiscuous etc. And that should be applauded.
Everyone walks with their own secrets, and their feelings of being guilty of SOMETHING they just dont tell everyone.... and im sure some have alot worse secrets to be treading lightly about then what your doing. :)
That aside.... id really just suck it up and blurt something out to make it be voiced and addressed. She might resent it, but it seems like shes resenting something already, whether its the circumstances themselves or the guilt or all of it together.... sometimes ppl need to talk and they just do not know how to engage, to get it out. Since your here seeking advice im thinking you may be the stronger of the two and theres probably a greater chance of it being addressed if You are the one to initiate it. And like you said, there may be an X factor where its something not closely related to this situation that shes dealing with, either way.... shes your friend and she needs to talk and you need to talk... why not do it together? :)
Everyone walks with their own secrets, and their feelings of being guilty of SOMETHING they just dont tell everyone.... and im sure some have alot worse secrets to be treading lightly about then what your doing. :)
That aside.... id really just suck it up and blurt something out to make it be voiced and addressed. She might resent it, but it seems like shes resenting something already, whether its the circumstances themselves or the guilt or all of it together.... sometimes ppl need to talk and they just do not know how to engage, to get it out. Since your here seeking advice im thinking you may be the stronger of the two and theres probably a greater chance of it being addressed if You are the one to initiate it. And like you said, there may be an X factor where its something not closely related to this situation that shes dealing with, either way.... shes your friend and she needs to talk and you need to talk... why not do it together? :)
well, i DO think that i'm the one who will have to bring it up. i appreciate your advice, it really helps push me to just get in the mindset that i need to do it and then just do it instead of waiting and wondering if everything is ok. now, this may seem like a pretty basic question... but how do i even start the convo? i'm trying to figure out HOW to say what i need to say to make things better between us not worse... i don't even know what to say to her about all of it...
oh, and also, sometimes we'll go a month or so in between when we do this stuff together, and eventually everything seems good and i decide, ok, we're not gonna do this together again because i don't want it to make things weird. and then just as i'm deciding that stuff and feeling right about all of it, we'll do that again....
oh, and also, sometimes we'll go a month or so in between when we do this stuff together, and eventually everything seems good and i decide, ok, we're not gonna do this together again because i don't want it to make things weird. and then just as i'm deciding that stuff and feeling right about all of it, we'll do that again....