how long will I feel suboxen withdrawals?

I know that it can take up to a month depending on dose and body chemistry before you start to feel totally back to normal. Since you're already 11 days in, you're halfway there to feeling normal again. I am sure that it's very hard right now but you will persevere and do well!

If you need to, this forum seems to have support for people coming off suboxone so tell us if you're having a hard time.

as our friend said your nearly there but you shold have stopped on a much lower dosage 4mg is far to high, thats over 10mls of methadone easily, but well done

Thanks for the support angelfly! DO you happen to have any sort of background in this sort of thing or are you just knowledgeable? I have a frew friends who used to do drugs so I know all about the shakes and that sort of thing, that and the spiders... Thanks for supporting me though.

I have a background where I gained a lot of knowledge above my substance use but I am almost finished my training to be a drug and alcohol practitioner. I thought when I got clean what do I know most about lets turn a negative into a positive. I did voluntary work for 3 years and now I am nearly done in a two year course with a work placement also; If I can help with anything at all feel free to get in touch;peace

Have any of you guys thought about taking natrexone after say the first week off what ever you have been on. Nalrexone is the opiate equivilent to alcohols antibuse although the body handels naltrexone far better. Naltrexone taken daily will block 100% of your receptors making you safe from opiates as they just wont work. This is great until you get your strenghth and will power up. also it seems it also has an anti depressant effect making you feel better; another good way to get back to normal quicker is high dosages of vitimns such as ,A B C E and especially the B range which work on the nervous system; also excersise I know its a cliche but it does produce the dopimine and seritinine the feel good chemicals in the brain; finally sex if you can mange it produces the chemicals to. all it is that while you have taken opites the brain has stopped making the chemicals that make you feel good the opiates artificially produce them so when you stop your brain s tank is empty and it takes time to start producing the feel good chemicals. stick with it the will come the chemicals I mean firstly up and down fits and starts but eventually they will kick in. good luck

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bluedog wrote:

Thanks for the support angelfly! DO you happen to have any sort of background in this sort of thing or are you just knowledgeable? I have a frew friends who used to do drugs so I know all about the shakes and that sort of thing, that and the spiders... Thanks for supporting me though.

I have a background where I gained a lot of knowledge above my substance use but I am almost finished my training to be a drug and alcohol practitioner. I thought when I got clean what do I know most about lets turn a negative into a positive. I did voluntary work for 3 years and now I am nearly done in a two year course with a work placement also; If I can help with anything at all feel free to get in touch;peace

Wow, that's really interesting! I had no idea, so your expertise would be really good for the forums, I'll bet. I don't think I've heard of Nalrexone at all either, so do you know if it's even available in the US? I think that I only know about suboxone and other similar drugs to help you get off opiates.

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angelfly wrote:

bluedog wrote:

Thanks for the support angelfly! DO you happen to have any sort of background in this sort of thing or are you just knowledgeable? I have a frew friends who used to do drugs so I know all about the shakes and that sort of thing, that and the spiders... Thanks for supporting me though.

I have a background where I gained a lot of knowledge above my substance use but I am almost finished my training to be a drug and alcohol practitioner. I thought when I got clean what do I know most about lets turn a negative into a positive. I did voluntary work for 3 years and now I am nearly done in a two year course with a work placement also; If I can help with anything at all feel free to get in touch;peace

Wow, that's really interesting! I had no idea, so your expertise would be really good for the forums, I'll bet. I don't think I've heard of Nalrexone at all either, so do you know if it's even available in the US? I think that I only know about suboxone and other similar drugs to help you get off opiates.

IM NOT sure if it is the uk is taking a lot of flack for its harm reduction strategy which is pushing abstaince in the back ground the E.U. says the UK has gone soft on drug policey but I guess it just realises that people will take drugs and should do it safely and that there are a wider range of treatments afterall everybody is different,laters

angelfly wrote:

bluedog wrote:

angelfly wrote:

bluedog wrote:

Thanks for the support angelfly! DO you happen to have any sort of background in this sort of thing or are you just knowledgeable? I have a frew friends who used to do drugs so I know all about the shakes and that sort of thing, that and the spiders... Thanks for supporting me though.

I have a background where I gained a lot of knowledge above my substance use but I am almost finished my training to be a drug and alcohol practitioner. I thought when I got clean what do I know most about lets turn a negative into a positive. I did voluntary work for 3 years and now I am nearly done in a two year course with a work placement also; If I can help with anything at all feel free to get in touch;peace

Wow, that's really interesting! I had no idea, so your expertise would be really good for the forums, I'll bet. I don't think I've heard of Nalrexone at all either, so do you know if it's even available in the US? I think that I only know about suboxone and other similar drugs to help you get off opiates.

IM NOT sure if it is the uk is taking a lot of flack for its harm reduction strategy which is pushing abstaince in the back ground the E.U. says the UK has gone soft on drug policey but I guess it just realises that people will take drugs and should do it safely and that there are a wider range of treatments afterall everybody is different,laters

So hows it going for you know? I hope you are okay. I dont know anything about you age, sex, background etc. i will try and write my e-mail if it will let me it would be really interesting to hear from you and what goes on in the states. Im struggling at the monent I have 6 months sick leave from my course which is good and bad. Bad in the favt I would be nearly finished and looking for a job my first full time job in 4 years. Good because my tutor was very understanding when I disclosed to her that I was talking 15mls of methadone a day. I didnt want to do this but the prescribing service said that I tell them or they would. A new manager there was disgusted that someone one a script as we say here was working(a work placement is the last part of my course) with people who had primary alcohol problems. There was nothing I could do we have confidentailality laws in the Uk State that if there are any children at risk or if i or other paople are at risk then a service is duty bound to disclose my drug use. In theory because I am on Class A drugs (uk drug laws terminology) and working or being in contact with vunerable adults there was nothing I could do so I told my funders who are a huge drug and alcohol service. I expected to be thrown out, as I had put everything into this and thought I had lost everything Im 42 I started using on top of the methadone and as a result I am struggling. I am now on 10mls of methadone now as reduced lately the service for awhile were making me drink it in the pharmacy(supervised consumption). So if I use two days in a row even a little then when I take this small amount of methadone It doesnt hold me 100% and am very uncomfortable. I felt ill last few days so today I smoked some herion and a little crack which I will pay for tomorrow when it wears off. I am away to really try and just take the methadone for the next week then dropp 2 mls a week in 5weeks should be clean. Its all a bit uncertain at the moment. If that service had just perhaps worked with me a bit rather than jumping in and turning everything upside down then I could have finished the course worked for a bit got rid of my debt then come off the script at my pace and when I wanted to. Its evedensed based that people who come off when they want to and not coerrced then statistics show better long term results. With what I read its all 12 steps in the states we have that hear also but these things come in fads and its not so fashionable in the uk. As I mentioned to you there are lots of treatments available 12 steps being only one and it breaks my heart to read on this forum people struggling to pay for methadone. Of course you can go private and pay in the uk but its not worth it except its all a bit quicker you have to wait a few months for funding for residential detox and rehabs. Treatment and substitute prescribing is totally free. be nice to hear from you speak soon

bulldog ive just been reading the rules and it states noit to pu your email or any other signauters. I hope that the company dont ban me. to the censors i am sorry to have incerted my e mail and promise not to do it again. It was not for any advertising or commercal reasons whats so ever and now reading the rules I see its not allowed sorry. What more can I do bulldog?


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Hi angelfly, I'm sorry to hear about this but don't worry about it. We can always talk here and if things get worse for you, please make sure that yous eek out help near you in case you are in a hard situation. I feel bad that you relapsed back into smoking but I do know it's hard to work through an addiction so I hope that ou understand i'm not judging and I do understand how difficult it is for you! Do you have any friends who can help you through this who do not abuse drugs? I have a friend who is a former addict and she told me that the first thing she did was stop talking to anyone who did drugs and it helped her get through 90 days, and after the 90 days it has been SO much easier for her. Keep me posted on how you're doing okay?

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angelfly wrote:

bulldog ive just been reading the rules and it states noit to pu your email or any other signauters. I hope that the company dont ban me. to the censors i am sorry to have incerted my e mail and promise not to do it again. It was not for any advertising or commercal reasons whats so ever and now reading the rules I see its not allowed sorry. What more can I do bulldog?


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Hi angelfly, I'm sorry to hear about this but don't worry about it. We can always talk here and if things get worse for you, please make sure that yous eek out help near you in case you are in a hard situation. I feel bad that you relapsed back into smoking but I do know it's hard to work through an addiction so I hope that ou understand i'm not judging and I do understand how difficult it is for you! Do you have any friends who can help you through this who do not abuse drugs? I have a friend who is a former addict and she told me that the first thing she did was stop talking to anyone who did drugs and it helped her get through 90 days, and after the 90 days it has been SO much easier for her. Keep me posted on how you're doing okay?

Hi there I moved from scotland to London 8 years ago from 2001 to 2005 I Was clean imm not sure if I like that teerm as it means you are dirty but you No what I mean so Ive done it before so I can do it again. I have 6months off to do it so its not all bad. I dont really have anyone to help as such. I think I am going to try and be realistic though. I have reduced to 10mls and am uncomfortable however a few more days and my body will get used to it. The hard thing for me is the isolation as I cut myself off from everyone I knew as they were all users and the last year I had my course so I was busy now the days are long and the nights longer. At least if I can get drug free I can finish my course and it will be easy to get a job well paid to. So its will power and a battle. I am confident I will manage I am going to try and cut down 2mls a week. I used to tell clients in my workplacement its like landing a plane the slower and gentler the reduction the smoother the landing. I just have to watch the old friends eg if you have been on your own for a week you get a little bored and lonely up pops an old friend and your glad of the company but its puts you back a week . How s it going for you when I started talking to you I recall you had been off suboxone for 11 days so it must be two weeks or so now. If you have managed and I hope you have the worst is over and you hopefully are feeling better. Let me no how you are. Take care.spk soon.

I'm sorry for using the term 'clean', it's just something that I had heard someone use before so I thought that was an ok term to use to describe being on the path to not using drugs any longer. I didn't mean to imply that you're dirty because I certainly don't mean that. Is there a term that I could use that is better?

Hi dont worry every one uses that term I just think with all the wrong stigma attached to addiction that some terms and words are unhelpfull and often help to reinforce the stigma and peoples perceptions,often from users themselfs for the want of a better word substance free can sound a bit better.How are you anyway?and things in general?

Hi blue,how are you.I am away to detox at home and I need to get as much benzodiazepam tablets as I can. Diazepam, Xanax, Rhypnol,nitrazepam,temazepam you know the family of drug I mean theres so many.here in the uk the doctors dont like to give them out as they are addictive in the ling run.There are web sites from companys in the USA and India ect that you can buy them and for some reason its not illegal I dont know why but theres a loop whole.I hear some people in uk have had no problem others have got poor quality tablets or very weak tablets some nothing at all. As a lot of these companys are in the USA I wonder if you vould steer me in the right direction.Including shipping a 10mg Diazepam cost around £1 each thats say $1.75. In the uk one was able to buy them on the street for £1.00.these sites you must buy minium of 60 so its not cheap especially if you lose the money.If anyone else is reading this can you help please.ofcourse blue they dont take away the withdrawals but especially in the first 3days getting loaded on diazepam or any of its brothers and sisters definately helps.I can say this from experience.Are these drugs available on the street in the USA?speak soon Blue hope you are well