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I have question regarding virginity as this issue is killing me like anything. I am involved with a girl and are in live in relationship for last 2 months. On first night there was no bleeding but she claims that she was never touched by any person. I am in delimma that whether should i marry her or not as I dono want to start my relationship with these things on back of my mind. I researched to various sites and peoples but not able to find exact answer so if you can help me in this regard then It would be very greatful. I have seen her part closely and found these details her labia minora is slightly coming out from labia majora. Labia majora is covering the labia minora but not fully. Clitris is there but I donot it is small or long as donot have idea about virgin vagina size. her color is fair but arola is red not pink and nipples are rounded but not pink. I donot have idea how virgin part look like so donot whether my observation is correct or incorrect. If full pictorial is available then please provide me sothat I can come out from this. Is these details are enough to prove that she is not virgin and had sex for quite a few times. Please Please Please help me else I will kill myself or leave that girl forever.

Never kill yourself because of a relationship. Why do you care whether she is a virgin or not? If you really love her so much and willing to spend the rest of your lives together, then marry just marry her.

If she is not a virgin, are you going to just throw her aside? Do you just love her body or really love her inside.
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Examination of your gf's genitalia is ridiculous. You can look at her "business" all day long, you'll never figure it out. Her labia, (major/minor), clitoris and her nipple size/color will not help you make a determination.

A virgin does not have to bleed her first time out, nor does there need to be pain. If she told you that she was a virgin, you should take her word for it. She may have broken her hymen some other way, other than actual intercourse.

If my bf did to me what you did to her, that would be it. You sound like you have a trust issue and getting married to this young lady or any one right now wouldn't be a good idea.

Virginity is very important in some cultures, i know that, but i think your taking it to the extreme. Killing yourself over this is crazy. If you can't handle it, move on.
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i responded in your other thread. please do not make multiple user accounts/threads to post the same issue. it will not get a response any faster and it just clutters the forum.
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I know all emotional things given in the replies but I am more of curious than worried..as is there any way to find out this.....What all we can look for....I have provided most of the things........Does any body know scientific things rather than being emotional about this issue......I know there are checklist that you can look for to prove this but i need some expert advice (doctor/nurse/personal)....



Thanks
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I told you earlier, forget about it, what's done is done. Now that you have had intercourse with her, you'll never know. You would not have been able to tell anyway.
Checklist...what checklist??? There is nothing scientific about it, and there is nothing out there that you can seek out to prove whether or not your gf was a virgin.
You either have to take her word for it or forget about it.

The only way you would have even had the slightest chance of finding out would have been to accompany her to her first doctor visit, (gyno) or you may eventually meet up with someone that may have slept with her before you. I dunno. Your being a little extreme here. These are not emotional replys, there are facts.
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now to quote myself again because evidently you didn't check back on the other thread...

oz wrote:

yeesh, i'm getting sick of these sorts of questions. so i'm going to quote myself:

oz wrote:

babyqueen wrote:

but wat if onli the begining of the penis entered (the head) to the vagina does that mean ur not a virgin???????



yes it means you are not a virgin. you had a penis in your vagina, this is sexual intercourse, the act that takes your virginity.

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Yes, bleeding means lost of virginity.. Also if only the beginning comes in it's considered as loosing of virginity..



bleeding has nothing whatsoever to do with virginity. my girlfriend didn't bleed when we both had sex for the first time, though we were both virgins.

i find it utterly amazing that people who have access to the internet can be so misinformed and have so many misconceptions about sexuality and virginity.

virgin: one who has not had sexual intercourse, the more traditional meaning is one that has not had vaginal intercourse, whether as a man or woman. quite simply if you put your penis in a vagina you're not a virgin. if you have a penis in your vagina you're not a virgin, even if it "was only a little bit".

however these days i think it's fair to expand the definition to involve other sexual activities. if you have anal sex you are not a virgin in my humble opinion. oral sex on the other hand is not "real" sex but that's open for debate.

the hymen has virtually nothing to do with actual virginity. it's just a thin membrane that covers the vagina. it is entirely absent in some women, diminished in others and in some cases completely closes the vagina. breaking the hymen does not mean you lost your virginity unless it was in the act of penetrative sex. "virginity" is a concept more than a physical state. it just describes someone who hasn't had sex yet. there is no exam that can be taken to prove a woman is a virgin except if she has a completely closed hymen (which can't be the case with a woman who menstruates as a completely closed hymen must be surgically opened to allow passage of menstrual blood and debris). it is possible for a woman to have an intact hymen even after penetrative sex.

people need to stop associating the hymen with virginity, it's not true and it's an unhealthy idea to pass on to others. imagine the distress of a girl who is born without a hymen or ruptures it through one of the previously mentioned activities when they read this sort of fallacy on the net and think they're not a virgin.


long story short, you can't tell if she's a virgin or not. trust her or don't.
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These things I find out in internet...........can any DOCTOR please validate these things..........Please some professional can put some light in to this...

Differences between true and false virgin
True virgin Some of the characteristics a virgin girl may have medically.In response to complaints of sexual assault e.g rape victims some of these characteristics help doctors while virginity testing to know about virginity loss.Virginity test is based on whether or not the hymen is torn.
1. Labia majora:Round,elastic,approximate, firm and completely covers the labium minus and clitoris
2. Labia minora: Pink colored,sensitive,covered by labia majora.
3. Clitoris:small
4. Vestibule:narrow
5. Fourchette:intact
6. Posterior commissure:intact
7. Vagina:narrow
8. Vaginal mucosa: Ruggose,reddish,sensitive to touch with wall approximate
9. Hymen: Intact,barely admits tip of little finger,edges are distinct and regular.
10. Breasts: Hemispherical,elastic,firm and rounded nipples surrounded by light pink or dark areola depending upon womens own color.

False virgin or active in activities
1. Labia majora:Fleshy,doesn't completely close the vaginal orifice.
2. Labia minora:Pale,insensitive and not covered by labia majora
3. Clitoris:Enlarged
4. Vestibule:Gapping
5. Fourchette:Torn
6. Posterior commissure:Torn
7. Vagina:Roomy
8. Vaginal mucosa:Its Not ruggose.
9. Hymen:Hymen is intact,easily admits tips of two fingers,edges are rounded.
10. Breasts:Breasts are pendulous,soft,nippled enlarged surrounded by dark areola.
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There is not much more that we can tell you. Now it sounds like you are becoming neurotic over this, which is ridiculous. You have researched it, you have made notes about it, now get over it.

You WILL NEVER know if this girl was a virgin and you either go by what she is telling you or find someone else. You can research this issue all day long, what's done is done.
You had intercourse with her, she says you took her virginity, so be it.

It's imperative in many cultures that a women be a virgin on her wedding nite and i understand your apprehension, but take her out from under the microscope and get on with your life.
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She's probably lying...   Most do...   :-)
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chances are she is not so sorry :( find another girl but examine her vagina first if u still confused msg this board with her pics myself or somebody will be able to guide u.  Tell than have fun with your non-virgin.
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That is right whatever u suggested him............but what happen if some one love deeply some one that time the possessiveness will ac cure ..that mean no one can see her, no touching etc. but one more thing i have suggest you bro if you ask her about her sexual life and may she tell you true then you will accept but remember one thing that is hurt you i mean her true so forgot all things about the virginity and focus on your next positive step ok...by...by
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if she bleed she mite be on her . period or shy clude be on the ragu I really dono I is nod a pesision.hard
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she is virgine dear
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maybe yours is TOO SMALL for her...hahahahah

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