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I read a lot of these posts and I gotta say, Sub W/D is no picnic but it's nothing compared to straight opiate W/D. Chills, diarrhea, and fatigue are the biggest b***h of it all. My advice is like a lot of others. Stay busy. It's hard to move sometimes but do it. It definitely helps. Another thing I've been reading is people having trouble sleeping. That one is new to me because I went to literally 1/10 of a 8/2mg Sub a day for two months before quitting, and all I've done is sleep since being totally off of them. I'll feel really exhausted and I pass out for at least 7-8 hours at a time at night and I take an hour nap or two in the day, too. Although, Klonopin or Clonodine will help greatly with this. Also there's a natural melatonin supplement you can buy for sleep that also helps a bunch.
I'm not an expert by any means, and only on day 7 with zero Subs, but truly I think the taper helped a lot because the restless leg feelings and the sneezing and chills started a few weeks ago. But I'm still at work. Can still function well enough to get through. I really do think a lot of people psyche themselves out on these boards though. First few days are the worst, but again, weren't terrible compared to Vicodin W/D. You can be depressed naturally without having Sub W/D, too, although I know what you guys mean by getting emotional for no apparent reason. Day 2 was really funny. I mowed my lawn which takes about an hour and a half to do by hand. I kept thinking just keep moving forward, there's nothing truly wrong with you, you've just gotta get your brain to adjust. I actually fell down twice while mowing from slipping while pushing the mower. The neighbors thought I was drunk! Lol.
The more positive you are, the more active you are, the better you eat and sleep, the better you will feel. I know Subs have helped many people, and I'm not knocking them. But I do resent my regular doc referring me to a Sub doc after taking Vicodin for a misdiagnosed fractured sternum from a car wreck. I was on about 20 mg a day of Hydrocodone for about six months and literally just should've bit the bullet and sweated it out a year ago. This Sub stuff to me was more powerful and attached to my brain longer and harder than the Vics, and I really feel it's just a legal way to keep people paying a fortune to stay in the med system. It'd be one thing if it was generic and cost $2 like Klonopin does. But with insurance, the visits are $200 and the meds are another $75 which was INSANE compared to the generic vics that I got also for $2. A total racket. I'm so pissed at my doctor.
But, let me again say, each day it's a little better than the last. Not huge steps between days, but a little, then a little. And it's starting to add up. I'm looking forward to feeling totally normal again even if it takes weeks or months. I don't care. I refuse to let our warped medical system ever hold me hostage again with some ridiculous chemical I didn't need in the first place.
BJ
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This is incorrect. Half life works: 8 mg at approx 37 hours it goes to 4mg. in the next 37 it goes to 4 mg. at the next 37 it goes to 2 mg. and continues till out of system. Why so hard to detox from.
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Hey guys. I've been slowly tapering down super-low, this morning I think I only took about .25 mg. The last few days I'd gone from 1mg to .666mg to .5mg and less. The past 2 days I've taken only super small amounts.
My thighs are killing me, and I have ZERO energy. My sleep is weird; I'll knock out for a few hours and then wake up feeling SO uncomfortable but not want to get up.
I'm not sure I felt anything from the suboxone I took this morning. Literally, it was a piece of the 2mg strips that was smaller than my pinkie fingernail.
I've been eating a lot, but now the yawns and runny nose are coming. I've been on suboxone since 2005, slowly tapering from 16mg when I started to about 1mg over the past few months.
I'm wondering if I should just jump, and if there is anything I might do from here on out that could help ease any discomfort? My doctor gave me a Clonidine rx (He ignored that I'm having trouble with Adderall right now which I've already ran out of after a week, I can't control myself on it) and my inquiries as to whether I need to go into a treatment facility to get off.
I've been living a very functional life, but i'm sick of having this weight over me, reminding me of a past that is no longer a part of who I am today.
Any correspondence would be great, my email
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thanks guys,
Greg
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