SUBOXONE DETOX OVER... NO ENERGY

In my opinion, the film is the best way to go.  Reasons?  Well, when I first got on Suboxone (2 years ago), I got a bit of a high from each dose (like they say is not supposed to happen).  Not really euphoric, but more of a energy boost and mood lifter.  I continued at 16mg a day for about 10 months, then 8mg for 5 months, then 4mg for 5 months..  All the while, using my dose just like I used my opiates, to deal with stress and feel better.  Well,a couple of months ago my dr. said it was time to taper down further.  I went to the film at this point.  One 2 mg strip a day for a month wasn't too bad.  I split it into about 4 doses at .5 mg each (maybe not a good idea).  I didn't feel bad, I just didn't feel good.  Then he said it was time to go to 1 mg a day for two weeks, then .5mg a day for two weeks.  At 1mg a day it wasn't too bad.  When i got to .5 a day, the hurt started.  Definitely mild, but definitely WD's. Still sleeping though.  At my next appt., he said we would continue the taper.  It was then that i decided I was NOT going to give him any more of my money and go ahead and get it over with.  If I was going to be uncomfortable, I was going to keep my $. He prescribed me 10 2 mg strips and I said au revoir. 

     I figured out that you can cut each strip into 9 fairly even sized strips.  Do the math, and each of these is .22 mg.  That is what i went to for a week.  Achiness stayed mild, sleeping stopped, and sneezing started.  This actually felt good, because I don't think I had sneezed since induction of the Sub 2 years ago. After that week, I cut each tiny strip into three pieces (.07 mg a piece).  Took .14mg a day for 4 days.  The reason I got so obssesive about getting the pieces so small was because I was horribly afraid of the intense WD's I have gone through before.  Anyway, symptoms stayed about the same, with mild prickly skin added to the list.  Again, these were all VERY MILD.  To keep this from going on forever, here is the rest of my taper--.07 for 4 days, .05 for 4 days (cut the tiny strip into fourths), and done.  That was 100 hours ago. My biggest issue is still sleep. The aches, chills, and prickly skin all subsided after 72 hours.  The only time I had diarrhea was during the last two weeks of tapering.  The biggest help for me during this was (and it's definitely not for everyone) Seroquel.  A very small 25mg dose before going to bed.  This stuff gives me a ravenous appetite and I have not missed a meal through this whole ordeal.  It also puts me to sleep.  No nausea, no vomiting. I think that has lessened the severity of my issues  (keeping nutrients flowing through my body).  I have been taking a small dose of a Benzo each night also.  This allowed me 5 hours of sleep last night, which is a 300% improvement over last week.  So, at 4 and a half days since my last dose, I am pleased.  Not out of the woods, but much better than I thought I would be from reading all the horror stories.

In my opinion, try not to jump from any dose greater than .5 mg a day.  Let your brain slowly get used to not being stimulated by chemicals.  It will heal, and you will be fine.

i just quit subs.  im at the end of day 2 and so far no wd's. Unilll i just took some nyquil w a cocktail and tried to lay down. now i feel like i have restless body syndrome! im really scared of the days to come. I have 2 lobs and children to take care of, so i hope i can make it through this! would a norco help w sleep? any advice would help, thanks

2 jobs, not lobs (lol)

I just wanted to reply to all the fellow sub users... I took my time weaning off, I weaned off literally for 4 months and towards the end I was taking crumbs (.5 mg once a day) after I was off them for a week I did a cleanse and detox which you can find at any whole foods or natural food store, did the cleanse for 1 week and then took the probiotics (which come with it) for another week! It helps a TON!! When your going off something as strong as subs, you need to flush all those toxins out or they will take forever getting out of your system and you'll feel tired, chills, sneezing, body aches ect. You almost loose hope that you can ever be off the subs! Trust me with the cleanse & detoxification!! It helped me get my energy back and my life!! I know addiction is hard and I almost lost my life to it over a year ago (within minuets) but if I can make it back and feel the way I do now, you can too! Sometimes these posts don't have people that give advice and you may feel more hopeless after reading some of them so I felt I had to shine some light where it needed to be shined! Don't give up!! Your life is out there waiting for you!!

hi i have only been in subozones for over a month.i was only taking an half of an 8mg pill.today i have cut back to half of the half.i am not sure how to detox my self from here.i really need help i am a sissy when it comes to being sick.also i have a son i am rasing on my own and it is very hard.i need some tips on  how to go threw the withdraws.i tryed to detox before and the withdraws made me go back to using.my main problem is my arm and my leg it feels like bugs are going threw them.and they do that mainly at night.please anyone have any advice thank u.

if you mix methadone with suboxone you will go into automatic detoxing. i was on methadone and tried sub and i went into full blown detoxing. i was on methadone for two years then got off them with perks then went to the subs. today is day 4 on subs and tomorrow will be my last day that i take subs. after that nothing else . i dont know what to expect when i come off five days of subs hope it wont be to bad but either way i'm trying to be drug free. but if i were u i wouldnt mix those two together it  made me really sick . i read up on mixing the two and found out you will get really sick. i will never do that again.  does anyone know how bad sub detox will be after 5 days of taking them? i have no idea what to expect.

IF YOUR TALKING ABOUT TRYING METHADONE I WOULDNT DO THAT IF I WERE U. I WAS TAKING METHADONE FOR TWO YEARS TO GET OFF OPIATES AND TO GET OFF METHADONE I TRIED SUBOXONE AND IT THREW ME INTO IMMEDIATE DETOX. I LATER READ ONLINE THAT YOU CANT MIX THE TWO BECAUSE OF THAT. METHADONE IS VERY HARD TO GET OFF OF AND DETOX LAST A LONG TIME. I GOT OFF METHADONE WITH PERKS AND OFF PERKS TO SUBOXONE. NOW I'M ON MY FOURTH DAY OF SUBS AND TOMORROW WILL BE MY FIFTH DAY THEN TO NOTHING. I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO EXPECTS AFTER TOMORROW WITH NO SUBS OR ANYTHING ELSE. I WONDER IF ANYONE KNOWS IF I WILL DETOX AFTER FIVE DAYS OF SUBS? DAY ONE I TOOK TWO MLG, DAY 2 TWO MLG DAY THREE ONE MLG DAY FOUR 4 MLG DAY FIVE WILL BE FOUR MLG TO NOTHING. HOPEFULLY SINCE ITS ONLY BEEN FIVE DAYS I WONT BE TOO SICK BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA?????

DONT MIX DONES WITH SUBS YOU WILL BE SICK!! I LEARNED THAT LESSON THE HARD WAY!

 Hey, i've been on sub's for atleast 6 weeks after falling of the wagon w/H, was able to taper down to .25 of a 8 mg tablet, and after about 4-5 days kicking, really didnt feel anything till the 3rd day, then it began!  "DOOM & GLOOM!!!  The anxiety, the regret, the guilt, the sluggishness, and the I dont feel like doing sh*t feeling!!! Not that I could do anything even if I wanted!!!  I feel so weak, not to mention I'm hungry as hell, but just can't get myself to eat anything!!!  havent been sleeping well lately, and yup, the dreams, atleast I'm well entertained durring my much needed sleep......The fatigue and the anxiety are the worst! I know from experience how it is to kick H cold turkey after about a 3 yr run, using anywhere from a 20 bag to 2 grams a day habit, w/ Sub's it really doesny compare, although id much rather be sitting on a toilet all day instead of not having the stregnth to do anything, much less able to function in any way. What sucks the worst is that we all know that this misery can end with just a phone call, or a little trip somewhere, I find myself fighting the urge to do so. I just try not to forget that if i do fall off the wagon, i'll just have to start all over eventually, and that is just not an option. I just continue to ask the lord for the stregnth that  I need, so that I can continue onto the road of sobriety!!

ive read so many of these post and they have been helpful, im scard by court order i have two weeks to be off of subonon and im taking 4mgs a day now. Im sooo scard ive trie dto syop before and i get so sick. ive never made it past 6 days and in that time it was pure hell, i didnt care if i lived or died. How back will it be when i stop, Honestly does anyone know how long the pain will go on for???

 

man i was on suboxone for a year and a half 24 mgs. a day then i got all the way down to 4 mg. a day. i went to rehab to get off the rest of the subs and to get off of my benzos - man that was a horrible detox combo. the benzos werent nearly as bad as the subs, i mean ive came off every opiate known to man and the subs took the cake. i guess the half-life and the buprenorphine make it so bad. the rehab didnt even know what to do with me i didnt start detoxing until my 6th day and all hell broke loose. i had to leave ama (against medical advice) because they wouldnt give me anything anymore. i went to stay with my pops and finish up but i was still going through absolute hell at week 4!!! after all that i unfortunately said screw it and am currently on the methadone maintenance but i would rather be on that and come off that than that suboxone c**p - they had there best scientists on that stuff - they oughta be shot man. ive never felt so depressed,hopeless,guilty, and suicidal than i did when i was coming off that mess. its fine while your on it but if you gotta come off my advice is VERY SLOOOOOW best wishes to you all

been on suboxone for a year now at the high point I was taking 32 mg over the last two weeks went down to 2 mg stop taking on sunday now on day 4 of detox and still feel like c**p, eat for the 1st time today it was a bannana to help with the restless legs." I hope" does anyone really know when i will feel a little better. I took the week off hope I fell better by Monday so I can go to work. Who ever said suboxone is easier to get off of the opites doesn't know what they are talking about. on day 4 of opites i was feeling better.this is hell can't eat or drink anything all i do is lay around and take a hot bath to help with the pain.

Hi, I'm still on suboxone,almost 2 yrs now I'm down to 1mg a day,when I started I was down to 30ml methadone which I was on for another 2yrs, then to 12mg of suboxone,bit back to front but you get my predicament,I too get tired some days and the next no problems as for cramps drink tonic water just a glass (200 ml ) that's all even two glasses (once a week) and get this no more cramps for real, just great especially at night when you jump or fly out of bed to stop cramping, doesn't happen now when I remember to drink the tonic water but if I forget ,their back again,miracle,hope you try it....

My situation is a bit different. I'm doing a Rapid Subs Detox. After about 3 months of using Homebake H heavily (in the country i live in, we dont get h, we make our own. google homebake h) I went on a rapid Subs detox. The idea is to not use for 24 hours, then jump onto 8mgs of Sub's. Day 1 The first 28 hours after using last (H) totally sucked ass, as we all know. Subs then kicked in and it was great, with a very mild buzz i was up and about and completely able to do whatever, it felt like 60mgs of codeine and an antidepressant. Floaty, Comfortable and happy. Day 2 dose upped to 10 mgs. Day 3 up to 12mgs, awesome. Day 4 10mgs. Day 5 8mgs. Day 6 6mgs. Day 7 4mgs. Day 8 2mgs. Dropped off 2 mgs on Tuesday morning. It's now Thursday evening. Back pain began about 6 hours after my last dose of 2mgs Tuesday morning. Nothing major. It escalated yesterday slightly and today it feels like its at its reaching peak. I ache but ive been able to sleep fine thus far but other than that my mood is positive, i feel surprisingly upbeat considering my shoulders and spine are pretty freaking sore. My partner is sleeping, we're in the same boat but she seems to handle a little less well, could be her physiology, or maybe she's moving through it faster and i have yet to get there. Either way it's no nightmare. Smoking pot certainly has been helpful for me, if only i could get prescribed benzos (vallium etc) id be floating away stoaked. Anyway, Im not sure what to expect from here on in. Unlike the majority of stories here i was only full-time physically dependent on opiates for about 3 months (altho i have used them part time for years without getting hooked) and have done a very rapid detox on the subs,  8 days. My instinct tells me tomorrow it will peak and it will be clear sailing from there but on the other hand I dont actually know sh*t. Any thoughts on what my particular experience might be from here ? I'll probably return with updates soon anyway.

I was on suboxone for 6 months, I took 2mg in the morning and 2mg in the evening. (I was prescribed 2 8mg pills a day but that was way to much) I lost my job and decided that it was a good opportunity to try to get off the suboxone, so for a month i cut down to 1mg in the morning and 1 in the evening. I lasted 14 days and couldnt take it any longer, the first 7 days were very uncomfortable, not as uncomfortable as coming off oxy's though. after the second week off the suboxone i still had no energy, had a bad headache, and was sweating horribly under my armpits. I decided to look up info on suboxone and i came across stories of the sweating and fatigue lasting 2 months! the sweating is the reason i couldnt stick it out. I've been to treatment once before for oxy's. the withdrawals were definately worse with the oxy's but they dont last very long at all compared to suboxone, i was feeling better after a week and was back to normal and done sweating on my 10th day. I think suboxone is an evil drug. I do think that it can work for some people out there, people with severe opiate addictions, like IV users, or people with chronic pain that need them for the rest of their lives, but for someone like me who was addicted to prescription drugs i think its a bad idea. I made the decision to start taking morphine and hydrocodone for 2 months max then quit. the reason is I can stay strong for about two weeks, and thats enough time to get off an opiate like oxycodone, hydrocodone, or morphine. suboxne's half life is 24-60 hours, and the 3 others i name range from 2-6 hours. I hope that gives you something to consider if you are planning on starting suboxone, or looking for what to expect when quitting. I'll update on how i do when i get off the morphine and hydrocodone

Suboxone needs to be taken off the market immediately!!!!! The fact that a drug is given to get u off opiates that has worse withdrawals then oxy or Percs is mind blowing. My fiancé & I have been taking less then a mg a day for about 2months & decided it was time to be clean once and for all! It's been 4 days & we finally are over the worst of it... The pain & uncomfortable feeling of bugs trying to rip through your skin is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy!!!! MARK MY WORDS DO NOT USE SUBOXONE OR SUBUTEX TO GET OF OPIATES!!!! Just detox without them, use Nighttime cold medicine or anxiety meds(only if your not addicted to them of course)!!! I am NOT A DOCTOR!! just a concerned citizen of the US...... If your taking more then I was ween your way down as low as possible,( 1mg to .5 if possible) then jump!!! I hope this helps anyone & everyone that reads this in the state I was in 4 days ago... There is a better life out there for you & u DON'T NEED SUBOXONE TO LIVE IT!!!!!!!!! I wish u all the strength & will to do the same as I have done!!!!!!!