Suboxone treatment is hell to come off of, and I cant stop!

If yall want information on SUb withdrawal read my post of e mail me i just got over it and i can help

For those of you who believe that there are Dr.'s getting rich off prescribing suboxone, you're nothing more than a bunch of whining j#rk offs. You whine and complain that the meds that YOU are responsible for getting hooked on (in 90% of the cases anyway) are destroying your lives. YOU then seek out the help of a medical professional and when that help is received, you moan and complain about that as well but I can assure you of the following:

-If you were sitting and coping with dreadful and painful WD's, you would do anything to alleviate the pain, including make a visit to that horrible, greedy Dr you so hate.

-Subs are MUCH easier to stop than methadone or oxy.

-With all the information on the internet, there is no reason why YOU can not do the proper research before getting hooked on yet another powerful opiate. This is literally the information age, albeit most of the garbage on the net is just that- garbage, but most of us are quite capable of reading info, gathering our own insightful information and weeding out the bad from the good to ultimately come to our own conclusion. Grow up!

-If the Drs didn't make money, then they wouldn't be doing it at all. Goal number one- MONEY! What is so difficult to understand about that? Money makes the world go around. Without the promise of a reward at the end of a hard day's work, then what reason do any of us have to work or put in the effort that is above and beyond 'just getting by'? We don't. It's simple human nature that is obviously not so simple for some of you to grasp. It goes back to the beginning of time when cavemen sat around shivering and hungry. They ultimately decided that it would be nice to have heat. Well, heat is a luxury, is it not? And as time evolved, starting a fire with a stick and a rock was time consuming and our inherent natural ability to make progress and turn that stick and rock into a more easily workable device was sought out. Next we looked for a roof over our heads, to keep from the harsh weather. And then some genius said "wow, wouldn't it be nice to have plumbing that we could use to wash ourselves or a shower to take?" and so on and so on. In other words, if we don't progress, then we're miserable as human beings. Medicine, including methadone and suboxone is just yet another progression in our lives and we should be happy it's available. Unless you're a retarded mute, then I suggest that you READ before you commit yourselves to anything, PERIOD! Now quit b#(@(!

MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN ON THIS DRUG FOR ALMOST A YEAR. HER BROTHER WAS ON IT FOR A FEW MONTHS. HIS WIFE HAS BEEN ON A QUARTER FOR 2 YEARS. SHE CANT STOP. IM DOWN TO A QUARTER. MY WIFE IS STILL ON 3 QUARTERS. WE BOTH STARTED THE SAME TIME. I AGREE... ITS JUST TAKING THE MONEY OFF THE ST. AND BACK INTO PHARMY COMPANIES. THERES A f****g SWORD ON THE DAMN PILL. I THINK IT HAS BEEN MUCH HARDER TO QUIT THAN OPIATES. NO JOKE. GIVE IT TIME THEY ALL SAY. AS WE GET ALL BECOME MORE BROKE. I TRY TO EVEN STOP THE QUARTER AND I HAVE WORSE WITHDRAWS THAN HEROIN. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT THO. BUT TO EVERYONE STARTING OUT ON THIS. THE BEST THING TO DO IS REALIZE GETTING OFF DRUGS IN GENERAL IS A STRUGGLE. THEES PILLS LIKE METHADONE AND SUBS ARE SUPPOSE TO TAKE AWAY ALL STRUGGLE. BUT US AS ADDICTS ... GET ADDICTED TO MAINTENANCE MEDS. SO MY ADVICE IF YOU JUST GOT ON IT TAPER DOWN FAST AND FEEL SOME STRUGGLE, AS IT ONLY GETS WORSE BY THE DAY WITH SUBS. IT IS AN EVIL DRUG. I REALLY DONT WANT TO BE DEPENDANT ON ANYTHING. I HAVENT TAKEN MY QUARTER TODAY AND MY ANXIETY IS THRU THE ROOF IM SWEATING LIKE A PIG IM ANGRY CONFUSED VERY VERY SHAKEY...... A DAMN QUARTER HAS DONE THIS TO ME. I THINK METHADONE CLINICS"" ARE THE SAME BUT AS I WOULD USE OPIATES I WOULD GET METHADONE OFF THE ST FOR A WEEK AND AFTER THAT ONE WEEK I WAS TOTALLY FINE WITHOUT EVEN THINKING OF GETTING FUKED UP. THE CLINICS KEEP YOU ON IT AND YOU BECOME ADDICTED. THE SUBS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND REALLY MESS WITH YOUR MIND. I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION AND PAIN. IM GOING TO JUST QUIT THS QUARTER SMOKE SOME HERB AND SWEAT IT OUT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND POSSIBLY GET A SMALL AMOUNT OF METHADONE FROM THE ST. THEES COMPANIES ARE NO GOOD. LIKE I SAID GETTING OFF SUBS ARE HARDER THAN TAIHFOOD. STAY AWAY!!!!! ALSO IF YOUR DR IS PUTTING YOU ON 24MG HE IS COMPLETE s**m.

i agree, 24 mg is way too much. I've been on heroin for twenty years. still alive! you dont need that much. that is just another bad dr. i agree with subs being harder to get off and please people stay away, as the other post stated. pill companies and clinics are just getting rich. you dont think they are making all this money??? crazy. its fact. drs get paid. they have to be certified. and they do get more money per subscription. fact. dont post on here if you dont know what you are talking about. i come from a family of drs. theres a lot people do not know. STAY AWAY.

I would like to add my two cents here...I was addicted to pain killers/heroine for years. Years and it certainly wasn't pretty but I have to say-out of all the various levels of hell that I have visited and inhabited throughout my life-that trying to get off of suboxone is by far BY FAR the WORST WORST WORST thing I have ever been through. I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have only just now truly tasted hell. I didn't realize until a week ago that I am completely owned by this drug and will never ever get off of it. I have been on between 4mgs and 2mgs of Suboxone for over 3 years...I've tried tapering down to (as many other people have put it) crumbs of the stuff-then try to jump off only to have my ass handed to me so badly that I'm back on it 24-48 hours later. This last attempt I made it for 6 days of pure unadulterated hell. This is what happens:
Goosebumps over every inch of my body
Insane sneezing attacks-by this I mean out of nowhere sneezing 10 or more times in a row-and it just goes on and on.
Headaches that belong in the Smithsonian under glass
Sweating profusely
Nose running like a faucet
Panic Attacks x 100
Sobbing
Sense of unreality and impending doom
Unable to feel my feet and hands or alternatively being able to feel them but they are icy and of course dripping in sweat.
Insomnia-and by insomnia I don't mean I'm having trouble sleeping or am half asleep-I mean I am wide awake in total and utter agony for as long as I dare stay off the Suboxone (this time 6 days without sleep)
Alternating sensations of burning up or freezing
Extreme stomach issues (I'll spare you all the gory details I'm sure you can figure out what I mean by this)
Unbelievably deep and abiding pain in my bones-as though every single one was broken-every single one.
And last but most importantly-b/c I truly believe I could deal with everything else if it weren't for this one symptom...
THE CONSTANT, COMPLETELY UNBEARABLE SENSATION THAT I AM COMING OUT OF MY SKIN-MY BODY MOVES OF IT'S OWN VOLITION, MY LEGS KICK CONSTANTLY AND I ROCK BACK AND FORTH AND I AM NOT ABLE TO STOP-NOTHING HELPS AND IT IS HELL UTTER AND TOTAL HELL I WOULD RATHER SHOOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD THAN EXPERIENCE THAT AGAIN-I CANNOT BEGIN TO KNOW HOW TO IMPRESS UPON YOU ALL HOW BAD IT IS-THERE IS NO WORD FOR IT. COLD TURKEY OFF OF HEROIN IS AN ALL EXPENSES PAID VACATION COMPARED TO SUBOXONE. I lasted 6 days off Suboxone. Now I am back on Suboxone and I am contemplating suicide. I will never ever get off this medication. 2 months/3 weeks/6 days or 30 seconds it doesn't matter how long the WD is b/c every second feels like days and days. I have been on and detoxed off of every drug you can think of and I have never ever met anything like the Devil that is Suboxone. If you aren't on it and are thinking about going on it-don't. Don't touch the stuff. Ever. It's not worth being owned the rest of your life. Find something else-find another way but why risk this? I wish I wish that someone had warned ME. And after everything that I've been though with drugs I am now more afraid than I have ever been in my life and don't honestly know what to do b/c I know I will never be able to get off of this garbage-and it's just my worst nightmare come true and noone can help me.

Any doctor that is willing to allow you to be a long term user of Suboxone is more interested in his/her bottom line than your well being.  That's a fact.  Prior to being placed on Suboxone you should be made fully aware of the fact that should you choose to use this drug for month than a month you will most certainly become addicted to one of the most vile substances ever created.  Like the drug companies give a rat's ass about the impact on you. 

YOU ARE TRADING ONE ADDICTION FOR ANOTHER. 

There is no doubt that Suboxone is a miracle of modern pharmocology.  When a opiate user has reach the end of the line and wants to quit and on that first dry day is overcome with the withdrawal symtoms from hell that magically disappear from some little pill allowed to disolve under your tounge you are truly in awe of the power of that drug.  The AWE should be SCARED TO DEATH.  Looking back there is no easy way to quit opiates PERIOD.  The rise in opiate use has created the extremely profitable cottage industry of pain medication withdrawal.  Looking back I wish I would have just bit the bullet and quit the 6-8 Norco's a day habit and rode it out. 

There is no way the withdrawal from that is even remotely as difficult as Suboxone.  I hate this drug, the indsutry that makes is and the doctors that prescribe it. 

The list of withdrawal symptoms from this drug alone are simply astounding.  I started sneezing rapid fire about 4-6 times in a row and thought great I am catching a cold in the midst of wuitting this c**p and then I read posts about other people experiencing the same symptoms.  What a joke.  I am coming on a 16mg a day that I reduced during the worst two week period of my life to 1mg which I maintained for at least 3 months.  I reduced to .5mg and stayed on that for at least two weeks before saying f$#kit I am done with this.  I AM STILL GOING THROUGH HELL FROM GETTING OFF .5MG.  

WHAT A JOKE.

I AM SO PISSED AT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE PRESCRIBING THIS c**p TO PEOPLE. 

 

BOTTOM LINE IS STICK TO IT AND SHOVE THIS UP THE DR'S RUMP WHO PRESCRIBED THIS TO YOU.  I STRONGLY URGE WRITING A LETTER TO THE DOCTOR ADVISING HIM OF THE DISGUST YOU HAVE FOR HIS HANDLING OF YOUR LIFE AT HIS BENEFIT. 

When I first started using the SUBOXONE I had a really good doctor who refused to increase my dosage or keep it level.  He would only reduce my dosage.  I of course sought out a Doctor who was more than willing to take my $575 a month and tell me I require long term care.  Translated that means " I need several months to get you hooked on the drug "

 

 

 

because suboxone destroys any ability to use the previous drug of choice as you simply they simply do not have the same effect after prolonged SUBOXONE use.

I am also an opiate adict for over ten years myself. First let me say im sorry you are going thru this but second let me say Im glad im not alone. I am actually on suboxone still myself. The leg aches and nausea and mood swings are awful. I am only on 1/4 of a 2 mg pill once a day and i cant believe how terrible the withdrawals are still. I am having surgery in 5 days and I know it sounds stupid but I swear it will be my saving grace to get off of these things. I would MUCH rather come off of the opiates than the suboxone anyday! So like you I feel like using to get myself off of these things too. My advice to you though would be to call a treatment facility or go to the hospital and have them help you get off of them. This poison is not worth losing your life over. I pray you get help and you have a good support system thru it all. 

I was using subs for 9.5 months. In the beginning I was up to 16 mg per day. I thought like many others that it was a wonder drug. However it is addictive and will control your life just like dope or pills. I got down to 2 mg every other day but couldn't get over that 48 hour hump. I would start to go through physical withdrawal symptoms at 24 hours and by day 2 I was a mess. Finally I went to a herbologist that gave me avenA sativa and kava in liquid form. I have been clean for six weeks. The biggest thing is to ween yourself gradually from subs. Once you can go almost 48 hours try the natural remedy. I really hope this post helps someone that is struggling. I know what's like to have that sh*t control your life.

If everybody sat around and did research to figure out what medication they should be taking,then what the hell are doctors good for? Doctors are in it for the money and the money only.Doctors are capitalizing off everybody elses addictions and misfortunes.People go to doctors for medical addention and advice but only make matters worse 9 times out of 10.If doctors arent in it for the money,then explain to me if you can why my doctor has prescribed me suboxone for a tramadol addiction and has kept me on it for over 2 years now and will keep me on it for as long as I'm willing to pay her the money. Hell,she's even still giving me tramadol prescriptions whether I ask for it or not.The suboxone withdrawals are as bad or worse than the tramadol withdrawals,but this so called doctor told me when I first started that there would be no withdrawals with suboxone.That is,until she got me hooked then springs it on me that I'm just trading one addiction for another,and the sub withdrawals are almost impossible to come off. These sweet and innocent doctors dont tell you these things until its too late. They're just begging for class action lawsuits and I'm going to check into filing one. It is about the money for doctors who think "oh well,its just a bunch of drug addicts".

Hello can u please give me some advice of how to wing off SUB bc im having horribly anxiety for stopping two days so i took a crumb n have nasua and stomach pain also hard to urin.. thanks

I have been on sub for 4 years now and just last week my doctor started to ween me off of them. I was supposed to take 1/2 of a two millogram tab but the withdrawls were so bad that i took the whole tab and ran out before my insurance would fill my new script. The withdrawl was worse than any other opiate i have ever come off of. I am trying to stay with the 1mg a day like he is making me do, but the leg restlessness and the vomiting is very bad. I can't sleep and am irratible to everyone i know. The doctor says i am immagining all of this and he thinks I am trying to stay on the drug. I want nothing more in the world than to get off and stay off this horrible drug. I was given sub origonaly becouse of a vic. addiction stemming from my breaking my neck, they kept me on it for 4 years for pain relief instead of using the vicodin. Now life is hell and I have thought of ending my life over this relentless withdrawl. I was told when i started taking sub. that it would have a very mild withdrawl , nothing compared to the vicodin. That was the biggest lie ever told to me in my life. The doctor offers nothing to help me in the withdrawl and keeps telling me it's all in my head. I just feel like punching this id**t when he talks to me. finding a doctor in my area that is not at his patient limit is impossible. Im goin nuts. Anyone who can tell me how to ease these withdrawls would be greatly appreciated.

I question your comment "advise him of the disgust you have for his handling of your life". Shouldn't YOU place some of that "disgust" upon YOURSELF. While I do wish you the best in your recovery, YOU need to be reminded who it was in the first place that created this problem - YOU. Had it not been for you poor coping skills and lack of willpower YOU wouldn't have put YOURSELF in a situation to have to place a medication under your tongue to mask the symptoms of an addiction that YOU are not strong enough conquer YOURSELF. So I agree with writing a letter of disgust but it should be directed to YOURSELF. Disgust that YOU even allowed this addiction to happen, disgust that YOU didn't research what drug YOU were putting in YOUR body. Stop blaming the world for problems that YOU, YOURSELF created.

Everything you said i agree with you a 110%. This suboxone c**p is just to make money for the doctors on people who need help. its no were near to a miracle.

I came off of 1mg of sub a day. I started skipping days. And after two weeks of every other day dosing. I then stopped. Yeah i went through acute withdraws for a month. Now the worst of the symptoms peaked at day 12. And it gradually got better. It's got a long half life. So it's obviously going to be slow and painful. But what's a month of pain and suffering for the rest of your years clean? Get off the sub. Start exercising, and drive the f**k on. 

Don't worry you can always go back to subs if you wanna give up and take pills. jeez, there is no easy way to do this. And if your at a mg and under like i was. your probably withdrawing a little everyday. Don't prolong it. Just stop and bite the bullet. Tired of hearing people cry about  how to get off subs. Obviously you couldn't stay clean on other pills. So what makes you think there is a easy way of subs?