i take three 8 mg suboxone a day for months and drink a fifth in the morning and a fifth at night. its never done anything to hurt me. i even once was about to go to a treatment facility and they thought i seemed a little too intoxicated so they wanted me to go to the emergency room for a few hours and when i got there i blew a .43 which i didnt think you could even get it that high. all while taking 3 8 mg suboxones a day. didnt puke or get sick to the stomach, nothing.
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Have you ever heard of somebody becoming a raving, physically-abusive person after taking Suboxone SL and then drinking several shots of Whiskey ? He's never acted this way on Whiskey or Subs alone.
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I have been on both straight bupe and suboxone, pills and strips and a few different brands over the past 2 1/2 years. I've also had at least i don't know probably 1/2 a dozen relapses during that time period - - none lasting more than a couple of weeks, however. So basically I've been on subs (3mg first year and half, now 8mg, long story)... for a long time Why? Because through tremendous trial and error, introspection, etc, and also what luckily is for me a complete lack of any side effects (Suboxone, and vyvanse, are the only meds that have ever worked for my depression and anxiety symptoms, which were a huge reason I used, duh), I've come to realize that this medication is a lifesaver and akin to insulin for a diabetic in my case. When I diligently take my subs, one 8mg strip taken after about 20 minutes after coffee and uh, #2 ~, followed by my one daily vyvanse 60mg tab, I feel great. I have the energy to go straight to the gym or outside to run or bike...I feel strong and alive with vitality...all the things I'd think would be "anti depressant" right? Anyway, my personal beliefs about suboxone's very strong potential off label use as an anti depressant (vyvanse as well) is also rooted in its noted, in my experience, effects at BLOCKING alcohol. Yes guys admit it. It blocks booze, and alot of us who've abused opiates also love alcohol because we love downers, right guys? My experience has been that doses 4mg and under will not experience this effect as much, but still will. You can get woozy and a little slurry maybe but not the elated kind of drunk that you got before you got on subs. Its the truth as I've experienced it. I know we're all different...but also, we're really not. I can be sure this is true for others because I've also noted that the ability to get a euphoric drunk returns after quitting subs, after a solid week or more off, I was able to get a good drunk again. In 20 years I bet they will be giving this to alcoholics as a regular course of treatment. I use to be a hard drinker (not an everyday all day kinda drinker but the 2 or 3 binges a week were mightily epic), Irish, love boozing, it was a part of me for chrissakes. A couple drinks would make me instantly warm, fuzzy and gregarious. The ensuing boredom from this lack of the juice is honestly very depressing, or more so, really annoying sometimes. God, I use to get laid all the time proabably just cuz I had that drunken confidence and swagger that doesn't even give thought to the possibility of embarrassing rejection because, uncaring, consumed in its own elated joy, it doesn't really care, and man does it work! O, the great irony! Trying to pick up women cold sober! Dear God!...Lo! Tis the only sad side effect of the otherwise miraculous suboxone.
However as mentioned, @ under 4mgs not as pronounced, so I plan to be back there within about a month or two which for me at least is usually pretty easy (its that below 1mg part that gets me) so I can party a little bit this summer
Anway, booze and subs = sorry guys. Subs + weed = beautiful Subs and benzos = pretty damn nice but please don't be an id**t like me and get yourself stuck in a situation where you are taking a small amount only to get by, aka, weening off because they stop working, subs and adderrall dex vyvanse = fantastic Subs + good roll = fantastic or acid amazing too. Really haven't done many others to give report on. Daily I take 8mg suboxone, 60mg vyvanse, 1-2mg alprazolam (xanax) and smoke about .5-1g of bud. But I don't drink alcohol or smoke cigs. I also love running and all sports, running especially is like a mindful meditiation to me and I do it everyday for about 30 min. Am I bad off? Addicted? I'm dependent on some meds, just like a great great deal of people are. They are important to my proper functioning. Its taken me time to realize this, but now I can see that I take my meds just as others might take insulin and heart medicine. As long as you have self control and make sure to always have a somewhat decent supply or at least a good ready doctor, this is my advice for success for people with issues with alcohol and opiates...insomnia...hypervigilance...anxiety....this med combo is working really well for me
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People need to know that this is a problem. You should if you've read the warnings from the drug manufacturer. Please do not take any other medications or alcohol with suboxone. My friend of 13 years passed away last week on a hiking trip mixing the two. He has been on suboxone for like 7 - 8 years and was a drinker. It finally caught up to him. I found him dead in the morning! He died in his sleep. God rest his soul.
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You will be on suboxone forever, my wife has been on it for six years the withdraw is worse than opiates.
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Not at first (though I realize all people are different.. I felt nothing but sick.. but gradaully, I'm back into my alcohol addiction that I was freed from for 10 years because I was told you couldn't feel the affect of alcohol while on Suboxone. Well, maybe not at first. But I'm still taking Suboxone and I am a raging alcoholic as well!! Do NOT GO THERE!!!
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I TOTALLY AREE. I TOOK IT TO GET OFF PAIN MEDICATIONS. I WSN'T ABUSING THEM.. THE PAIN CENTER JUST KEPT INCREASING MY DOSE AND GIVING ME STRONGER MEDS SO I WAS DEFINITELY DEPENDANT OF THEM..Sorry for the Caps.. Just realized they were on.. Anyway. Shortly after I began taking them I ended up in the ER. The Dr. asked me what meds I was taking.. SInce you ALWAYS have to let them know you are taking Suboxone because it reacts with so many different drugs..especially anesthesia, I told him Suboxone.. He told me flat out, looking me right into the eye, saying, "You will be on the for life! It is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get off of!" ..here I was only on it 10 days! He was right. I've always been on the lowest of doses. I mg of an 8 mg Strip. I can't even get thru the day unless I take a tiny crumb of that tiny 1mg dose.. (BTW, Most people are on 8 to 16 milligrams...I was on only 1)!
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Also, it happened so slowly. I would have a sip at parties, totally hated it..2 years later I can drink non-stop for days and I only weigh 95 lb's... Don't start even if it makes you sick as it did me at first.. Before you know it that Alcohol Addiction will kick into Full Gear... Suboxone or not!
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I drank almost a bottle of wine on NY eve, intent on relaxing, I am on less than 2 mg of suboxone, I felt nothing not a high a buzz and nothing the next day. I am small a female and a low tolerance to alcohol so this is bizarre to me, I have confirmed that suboxone blocks alcohol also, at least for some.
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What you say makes sense. I have been on suboxone for 3 years. Narcan is believed to be the reason that my colitis went in remission. I am a very low dose but have started drinking a lot more. At a higher dose I could not drink at all. My stomach hurts every morning. I have been trying to figure out if it is the withdrawal from subox or now the alcohol. Probably subox since it felt the same was before I started drinking again. I'm down to 1/3 of 2mg. today I had only 1/6 of 2mg and I am trying to drink to see if I can make it the rest of the day without my second dose of subox. I notice everytime I drink I get very sweaty for about an hour. There is some interaction that is going on. I think for me at the low dose the alcohol is beginning to over take the receptors. At least I am hoping. I want off everything. but nothing is worse then oxy or suboxone. very miserable long detox. Thanks for your post, Dan
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